Gaming Build Need Opinion

krunkcustoms · Oct 27, 2011

Outlander_04 · Oct 27, 2011

I'd buy a bigger 24 inch monitor , even if I had to compromise on say ........a smaller SSD

Okcookienc · Oct 27, 2011

3 thoughts:
Larger monitor - you'll be happier with 24 inch.
Better case fan - to allow air cooled over clocking most people suggest Scythe Gentle Typhoons.
GPU - the 560 Ti is widely considered the bet gang for your buck card, but you don't need the SuperClocked version. You can easily oc a base model using MSI Afterburner. Also, you're limiting yourself with 1Gb of VRAM - its simply not future proof. If there's one thing I wsh I had done differently with my new build it's that I would have gotten a 580 3Gb.

Other than that it looks good.

Okcookienc · Oct 27, 2011

Also: I would suggest Crucial M4 over OCZ. I know the new firmware fixed a lot of problems with Sandforce cards, but I just don't trust OCZ. Crucial and Intel are regarded as the most reliable.

Atotalnoob · Oct 27, 2011

Change the HDD to spinpoint F3.

You might as well buy the 1TB model.

Like said before, get a bigger monitor...

krunkcustoms · Oct 27, 2011

Would you guys recommend a SSD? Most of my friends said they aren't worth the money right now for faster load times. If I dont get one then what size HDD should I get. How about this monitor?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236102

Atotalnoob · Oct 27, 2011

SSDs are worth it. I got one, it owns. lol.

Get something that has a sandforce driver... I like G.skill SSDs, but that is just me.
Anything that isn't a SandForce is pointless to buy.. IMHO.
This is the one I have: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231378
It is a little expensive, here is a cheaper one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227551

The monitor looks fine.

flong · Oct 27, 2011

Hello,

I have a couple of ideas:

1. The Kingston Hyper X Extreme is faster than the OCZ agility and it has dropped in price to around $180 after rebates. Also the Agility 120 GB uses the same nand flash as the Corsair Force 3 which goes on sale frequently for around $130 - $140. The Corsair Force 3 has a better warranty. Take a look at the Corsair Force GT also, it is as fast as the Kingston Hyper X Extreme or faster and it frequently goes on sale. Don't go smaller than 120GB.

2. I second the thought that you should go to a 24" monitor. Asus makes several that are very cheap that cost between $150 - $200.

3. 1866 RAM is better and it frequently goes on sale at Newegg for $65. There is a difference in performance between this and 1600 RAM (3%-5%)

4. The Samsung F3 Spinpoint 1TB and the Seagate Barracuda 1 TB frequently go on sale for $50 at Newegg. If you keep an eye out, you can pick them up cheap

5. I have the Extreme 4 Gen 3 and it is a great board.

6. The Corsair Carbide 400 is also a case you may want to look at and it is about the same price.

7. The fastest 120GB SSD right now is the Mushkin Chronos Deluxe. The Patriot Wildfire is a close second with the Kingston Hyper X Extreme and the Corsair GT Force in third place. The Crucial M4 is also worth considering but it loses in most benchmarks to the other SSDs. It does beat them in some benchmarks. There are no reliability studies for SSDs currently and so it is pure speculation to say one is more reliable than the other. No one really knows for sure. Intel is supposed to be the most reliable, but that comes from talk among computer pros who use a lot of SSDs and so it is not verifiable.
Good luck with your build

flong · Oct 27, 2011

Atotalnoob :

You realize you are recommending SATA II SSDs which are approximately 50% slower than the SATA III SSDs right? That is really bad advice.

flong · Oct 27, 2011

Okcookienc :

The CM enforcer is a relatively good case for the price. The case you list in your tag, the CM 690 II is also a good cheap case.

krunkcustoms · Oct 27, 2011

I wanna try to stay below 1400. So either I drop the SSD and get a bigger monitor or keep it. Windows 7 64bit is 20GB and SWTOR is going to be 40 or so with future updates, so it will have to be atleast 120GB. I will take a look at the ones recommended. As far as RAM speed I will take a look also. Decision is between no SSD or bigger monitor?

flong · Oct 27, 2011

krunkcustoms :

I think you are OK, here's a quick price check:

Case: $150 Many to choose from
1 TB HDD : $65 Samsung F3 Spinpoint
SSD: $180 Kingston Hyper X Extreme
2500K CPU: $215
NH-D14 Cooler: $80
RAM: $65 2 x 4GB
Motherboard: $200 AsRock Extreme 4 Gen 3
Monitor: $200 Asus 24" monitor
ATI 6950: $225

Edit: PSU add Corsair HX850 at $150

Right now this puts you at $1350. You have extra money for any other odds and ends.

Why_Me · Oct 27, 2011

krunkcustoms :

You want a Gen3 board for PCI-E 3.0 and you want a 750w psu to push two of those cards in SLI.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265 $154.99
ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=P67%20Extreme4%20Gen3 <----- another look at that board

http://www.asrock.com/microsite/PCIe3/ <----- PCI-E 3.0

OR...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271 $124.99
ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z68%20Extreme3%20Gen3 <----- another look at that board

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341049 $99.99 - $74.99 after mail-in rebate card FREE SHIPPING
OCZ ZS Series OCZ-ZS750W 750W ATX12V v2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Performance Power Supply

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Enforcer-Interior-SGC-1000-KWN1/dp/B004WK3KKQ/ref=sr_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1319705815&sr=1-6 $79.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Cooler Master Storm Enforcer USB 3.0 Mid Tower ATX Case with Window and Black Interior (SGC-1000-KWN1)

http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Computer-Cooling-R4-LUS-07AR-GP/dp/B002LE8BJA/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_b $14.25 Free Standard Shipping (3-5 days)
Cooler Master 200mm Megaflow with Red LED

http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-Superclocked-Mini-HDMI-Graphics-01G-P3-1567-KR/dp/B004XUCCRM $249.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti DS Superclocked 1024 MB GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 2DVI/Mini-HDMI SLI Ready Graphics Card, 01G-P3-1567-KR

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697 $64.99 FREE SHIPPING
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

http://www.amazon.com/ML228H-22-Inch-Ultra-Slim-Widescreen-Monitor/dp/B00413PHEQ $154.99 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping
Asus ML228H 21.5" 1920X1080 2ms Full HD LED BackLight LED Monitor Slim Design 250 cd/m2 10,000,000 :1 (ASCR)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236099 <----- That same monitor on newegg. LED ftw

Atotalnoob · Oct 28, 2011

flong :

My bad, I didn't see that.

flong · Oct 28, 2011

Atotalnoob :

Your heart is in the right place. You were trying to help someone.

flong · Oct 28, 2011

I would add to Why Me's recommendations:

1. Go with the 24" Asus - there are several on Newegg at about the same price as the smaller monitors

2. I do think that the Corsair HX850 is worth the extra $50

3. The AsRock Extreme 4 Gen 3 is an amazing motherboard and Why Me's recommendation shows it to be only $154

4. Watch HDD pricing for sales. You can get great buys if you wait for the sales. Same with SSDs

Outlander_04 · Oct 28, 2011

If you get a Z68 mb you can use a very small SSD for caching . The speed is only fractionally lower than just using an SSD and will save you $$$$$

flong · Oct 28, 2011

Outlander_04 :

I disagree (respectfully) - read Tom's Hardware's article where they compare Intel caching with a dedicated SSD. The dedicated SSD is MUCH faster than the caching (over twice as fast).

If money is an issue, the Corsair Force 3 120GB is on sale for $109 right now at Newegg. Here is the link: http://www.newegg.com/emailpromo/

It is a very fast (about a mid-speed SATAIII SSD) SSD that is dirt cheap right now.

Using a dedicated 120GB SSD for your operating system and your most important programs is universally stated as the best system by every professional reviewer.

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