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January 28, 2012 12:50:19 AM

Hey guys, I need help determining which case and PSU I want for my first PC build. I'm not planning to OC, so I don't think I need too much wattage power. Can someone please help me choose between these items listed below and/or give suggestions on new items. Thank you :) 

(P.S: I have no clue on the motherboard and what motherboards are good so can someone please help me choose a better one? Thanks!!!)


Case: HAF912 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

NZXT Source - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

NZXT GAMMA - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast TX V2 Series 650-watt 80+ Modular
http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Enthusiast-Certified-Perf...

Corsair Professional Series 650-watt 80+ Modular

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Motherboard: ECS H61H2-M2(1.0) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard $60

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813135288

CPU:
Intel Core i5-2500K Processor $230
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-BOX806 [...] 677&sr=8-1

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory (With free 4GB SDHC card) $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231426

Video Card:
EVGA 01G-P3-1561-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti FPB (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $230

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130623

Storage (HDD):
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500 GB SATA III 7200 RPM 16 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive $90
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digi [...] 265&sr=8-1

Optical Drive:
Lite-On LightScribe 24X SATA DVD+/-RW Dual Layer Drive IHAS424-98 - Retail (Black) $26
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B [...] k-c1001-20

Monitor:
HANNspree By Hanns-G HF225DPB Black 21.5" 5ms Full HD WideScreen LCD Monitor w/Speakers 250 cd/m2 X-Contrast 30,000:1 (1000:1) $120

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824262011

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a c 111 ) Power supply
January 28, 2012 1:10:27 AM

why such a low end mobo? Get the Haf 912 and the corsair cx 500w and spend a bit more for the board. The asrock z68 extreme 3 gen 3 is a good choice.
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January 28, 2012 1:25:03 AM

I just got one of these babies a week ago: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168.... Very nice case, not much in terms of cable management though. Plenty of fan spots if you want good airflow. Only things I don't like are the fact that the rear PCIe cover plates are welded on and cannot be replaced once you take them off, you have to buy ones to cover them. And you can't take them off with the mobo in. So I just ripped them all off before putting my Mobo in and left it open. I figure it makes a handy extra passive intake area :D 
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January 28, 2012 1:30:05 AM

Yeah, get a somewhat decent mobo. Take amuffin's advice.

A good 650W PSU should be fine for 560 Ti SLI, which you'll probably do in the future. Here we are, $65 after rebate (XFX Core Edition): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Incidentally, the 2500K is $180 if you can get to a physical Microcenter store.
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January 28, 2012 1:33:31 AM

kajabla said:
Yeah, get a somewhat decent mobo. Take amuffin's advice.

A good 650W PSU should be fine for 560 Ti SLI, which you'll probably do in the future. Here we are, $65 after rebate (XFX Core Edition): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Incidentally, the 2500K is $180 if you can get to a physical Microcenter store.


I think he wants a modular supply though (XFX makes modular though, just a different model)
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January 28, 2012 1:51:00 AM

Yeah, I definitely want a modular PSU. I honestly like the 1st PSU I listed above, and as for the case, HAF 912 or NZXT Source :) 

What do you guys think?

Also, what brand do you guys think is better out of OCZ, Corsair, SeaSonic, and Antec PSU's?

I REALLY need help on a mother board, probably more than the case and PSU!
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January 28, 2012 1:53:28 AM

kajabla said:
Yeah, get a somewhat decent mobo. Take amuffin's advice.

A good 650W PSU should be fine for 560 Ti SLI, which you'll probably do in the future. Here we are, $65 after rebate (XFX Core Edition): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Incidentally, the 2500K is $180 if you can get to a physical Microcenter store.


I'm certainly not doing SLI ever. I want 550-650 watt PSU's ONLY :p 
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January 28, 2012 1:53:37 AM

Seasonic and Antec are brands I have experience with, they are my personal favorites. XFX is another brand people like, not sure about OCZ or Corsair though. But really, Antec, Seasonic, and XFX have like 50 PSU's between them, I'm sure you can find one you like from them :D 

Antec Neo Eco is a nice value PSU that is 80+ and can come in the modular flavor. I just got one on sale on Newegg (although the non-modular version) and its a nice quality unit.
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January 28, 2012 2:00:34 AM

True Power is good too, as is High Current Gamer. High Current Gamer = Neo Eco but with an included power cord and more red stickers.
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January 28, 2012 2:07:13 AM

Wow, thanks guys!

@davcon Does the site have shipping+handling on those items? I can't tell.

@VetteDude I have experience with none considering this is my first PC build, but I've heard great reviews with Corsair and SeaSonic(even though it's hard to find) but I've honestly never looked at any products from Antec and XFX. Unfortunately, the only wattage I could find on newegg for the one you suggested was 400, 520, and 620. Is 620 okay? Will it perform well with my specs I listed above?

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January 28, 2012 2:10:43 AM

KingSaif said:
Wow, thanks guys!

@davcon Does the site have shipping+handling on those items? I can't tell.

@VetteDude I have experience with none considering this is my first PC build, but I've heard great reviews with Corsair and SeaSonic(even though it's hard to find) but I've honestly never looked at any products from Antec and XFX. Unfortunately, the only wattage I could find on newegg for the one you suggested was 400, 520, and 620. Is 620 okay? Will it perform well with my specs I listed above?


Newegg doesn't sell the modular ones though so don't bother. The 620 has like a 48A 12v rail though, it'd be plenty. High Current Gamer is same thing just with a power cord (Neo Eco wants you to reuse your old cord to "save the environment") Oh and most Antec supplies are made by Seasonic ;) 

Edit: This is a great supply as well, plus its modular http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Comes in a 620w flavor too if you think you need the extra juice.
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January 28, 2012 2:10:56 AM

KingSaif said:
Wow, thanks guys!

@davcon Does the site have shipping+handling on those items? I can't tell.

@VetteDude I have experience with none considering this is my first PC build, but I've heard great reviews with Corsair and SeaSonic(even though it's hard to find) but I've honestly never looked at any products from Antec and XFX. Unfortunately, the only wattage I could find on newegg for the one you suggested was 400, 520, and 620. Is 620 okay? Will it perform well with my specs I listed above?

NCIX for the win = free shipping on orders over $50 and under 200lbs.
I think you're covered as long as you don't live in Alaska or Hawaii!
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January 28, 2012 2:18:14 AM

Vettedude said:
Newegg doesn't sell the modular ones though so don't bother. The 620 has like a 48A 12v rail though, it'd be plenty. True Power series is the same basic thing, just it includes a power cord (Neo Eco doesn't to "save the environment"). Oh and most Antec supplies are made by Seasonic ;) 

Edit: This is a great supply as well, plus its modular http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Okay, that last one was 5 eggs, but do you think a 520 will be enough for the GTX 560T? Sorry, I'm not the best with PC building :p 

I want to save money on the PSU and spend more on the motherboard. I'd say about 80-120 on the PSU and no clue on the motherboard.

Here's the first PCU I wanted until people told me to get a lower one: http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-750W-Modular-Bronze-P...

Wow, I'm really liking that 620w version! And the reason why I prefer the higher wattages even if I don't need it is because I don't want to have to replace any parts in the future :p 
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January 28, 2012 2:19:38 AM

davcon said:
NCIX for the win = free shipping on orders over $50 and under 200lbs.
I think you're covered as long as you don't live in Alaska or Hawaii!


Okay, thank you! I'll check out NCIX for lower prices on all my parts and I live in New York :) .
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January 28, 2012 2:28:49 AM

KingSaif said:
Okay, thank you! I'll check out NCIX for lower prices on all my parts and I live in New York :) .

Should work out fine for you!
NCIX is a Canadian company now with US facilities in California.
NCIX in Canada use to ship out of B.C. only,i live in Ontario Canada.
Usually takes about 3-5 days if you select free ground shipping.
Depending on costs you can select expedited 1-3 days.
Never had an issue = items are packaged very well.
GO GIANTS/ RANGERS!
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January 28, 2012 2:30:11 AM

An EVGA (I find them most straightforward with requirements. Instead of stating "500 watt minimum" like most do, they actually give a more useful requirement: 12v amperage) 560ti 448 core (AKA more power consumption) need 38A. That 520 has a combined 40 plus the necessary connectors so it'd be fine, but barely. And the fact that the 620 is on sale for only $10 more, I'd go for it :) 
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January 28, 2012 2:32:47 AM

Vettedude said:
An EVGA (I find them most straightforward with requirements. Instead of stating "500 watt minimum" like most do, they actually give a more useful requirement: 12v amperage) 560ti 448 core (AKA more power consumption) need 38A. That 520 has a combined 40 plus the necessary connectors so it'd be fine, but barely. And the fact that the 620 is on sale for only $10 more, I'd go for it :) 


So 620 is the way to go? What about the motherboard..? Thanks, man!
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January 28, 2012 2:37:47 AM

Certainly. I would buy it now as well, hard to beat $35. I always chase the sales on Newegg :D  (although the shipping is a tad high, still brings it to the equivalent of $25 off)

I know nothing about Mobo's, sorry.
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January 28, 2012 2:42:09 AM

Vettedude said:
Certainly. I would buy it now as well, hard to beat $35. I always chase the sales on Newegg :D  (although the shipping is a tad high, still brings it to the equivalent of $25 off)

I know nothing about Mobo's, sorry.


Hey, I forgot to tell you that I will be using my PC for doing homework, watching YouTube videos, researching, Minecraft, and the only reason I'm even building this PC, BF3.

I'm hoping to play well on medium-high settings on a 1920x1080 with around 40-50 FPS on a 64-player match. Will that change anything concerning the wattage power?
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January 28, 2012 2:47:21 AM

Mmm Minecraft. Love that game. :D 

That doesn't effect power usage unless you decide to get a beefier GPU to handle it. A 620w SEASONIC will be fine for almost all except enthusiast cards, don't worry man. 48A combined 12v is plenty for almost any card in your price range.

Not sure your budget for the motherboard but this looks really good: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 28, 2012 2:49:17 AM

Vettedude said:
Mmm Minecraft. Love that game. :D 

That doesn't effect power usage unless you decide to get a beefier GPU to handle it. A 620w SEASONIC will be fine for almost all except enthusiast cards, don't worry man. 48A combined 12v is plenty for almost any card in your price range.


Okay dude thank you for everything. Really appreciate it! :) 

Yeah, that motherboard looks pretty decent. I'll look into it but I also have some other ones that people suggested on EggXpert forums.

He suggested P67 or a Z68 chipsets
Here's one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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January 28, 2012 2:53:27 AM

davcon said:
The Neo is a good psu but it's not worth $70.
Newegg has them on sale all the time.
Better deal.
Antec Earthwatts 750W Modular
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=38107&vpn=EA750&manufa...
This would even run you're gear just fine.
OCZ ZS Series 550W
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=62391&vpn=OCZ%2DZS550W...
I thought the OP was selecting a regular 560ti(which uses way less amperage)not a 448

Yep got my Neo Eco for $40 last week :D  But we moved on to Seasonic, he found a nice 620w supply.
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January 28, 2012 2:57:39 AM

Yup. Thats it. Cheaper than Newegg too. I'm starting to love that site you keep posting :D 
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January 28, 2012 2:58:07 AM

davcon said:
The Neo is a good psu but it's not worth $70.
Newegg has them on sale all the time.
Better deal.
Antec Earthwatts 750W Modular
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=38107&vpn=EA750&manufa...
This would even run you're gear just fine.
OCZ ZS Series 550W
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=62391&vpn=OCZ%2DZS550W...
I thought the OP was selecting a regular 560ti(which uses way less amperage)not a 448


From what I heard, OCZ is not the best brand for PSU's. I'm not saying its not, its just what I heard. And I definitely don't want a 750-watt PSU :( 
I prefer a 550-650

Check out the two I first listed and tell me what you think about them.
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January 28, 2012 2:58:58 AM

Vettedude said:
Yup. Thats it. Cheaper than Newegg too. I'm starting to love that site you keep posting :D 

No kidding it's cheaper!
NCIX rocks dude!
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January 28, 2012 3:01:40 AM

KingSaif said:
From what I heard, OCZ is not the best brand for PSU's. I'm not saying its not, its just what I heard. And I definitely don't want a 750-watt PSU :( 
I prefer a 550-650

Check out the two I first listed and tell me what you think about them.

The Seasonic M12II 620W is your best bet if that fits your budget.
5yr warranty and 2xPCI-E for the GTX 560ti.
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January 28, 2012 3:04:19 AM

KingSaif said:
Awesome dude xD!

Btw NCIX also Pricematches any instock item from competitors.
So if you see something on Newegg that's cheaper NCIX will honour that price if they have it instock.
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January 28, 2012 3:04:42 AM

Don't bother with the Corsair supplies, they are overpriced for what you would use it for. The main feature of the Professional Series one is that is has 9 SATA connectors, I don't think you need that many :p 
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January 28, 2012 3:06:39 AM

Okay guys, I think I'm gonna go with the SeaSonic 620w. Thanks both of you :) !

and @davcon do you know anything about motherboards? Do you know any decent motherboards that would preform fine?
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January 28, 2012 3:09:44 AM

davcon said:
Btw NCIX also Pricematches any instock item from competitors.
So if you see something on Newegg that's cheaper NCIX will honour that price if they have it instock.


Wow, that's great! The only reason I'm using NewEgg is because its my first time building a PC and I figured it was the best bet. Other than NewEgg, the only site I use to order ANYTHING is Amazon, but NCIX seems much better.
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January 28, 2012 3:10:45 AM

Vettedude said:
Don't bother with the Corsair supplies, they are overpriced for what you would use it for. The main feature of the Professional Series one is that is has 9 SATA connectors, I don't think you need that many :p 


Okay, thanks for everything man. You definitely deserve top comment :) 
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January 28, 2012 3:11:40 AM

Make sure the Mobo has 4 RAM slots. Make sure it has enough expansion slots to meet your needs (if you want a wifi card or other cards) and P67 chipset is defo the way to go. After that, look at the eggs :p 
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January 28, 2012 3:14:10 AM

Vettedude said:
Make sure the Mobo has 4 RAM slots. Make sure it has enough expansion slots to meet your needs (if you want a wifi card or other cards) and P67 chipset is defo the way to go. After that, look at the eggs :p 


Okay and yeah I'm going to have to do some hardcore researching on slots and stuff. Lol, I thought you knew nothing about motherboards :p 
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January 28, 2012 3:17:03 AM

I know enough basics to narrow down choices and then make an intelligent decision based on reviews. I know nothing about what brands are good though, but if quality of Mobo's is like their GPU's then MSI seems good, and of course EVGA is amazing (but expensive)
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January 28, 2012 3:20:24 AM

About the two units you listed.
The TXM is good,the HX is better.
The Antec TPN i listed is pretty much identical to the HX.
Both are Seasonics built off the M12D platform.
The HX650 was $99.99 straight up last sale at Ncix.
The Antec for $89.99 is a really good deal i've seen it even cheaper though $69.99 at Ncix.
The Seasonic M12II 620W is a good fit for you = semi-modular ,5yr
If you never plan on two gpu's you really don't need the others.(which have 4xPCI-E)
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January 28, 2012 3:21:40 AM

Vettedude said:
I know enough basics to narrow down choices and then make an intelligent decision based on reviews. I know nothing about what brands are good though, but if quality of Mobo's is like their GPU's then MSI seems good, and of course EVGA is amazing (but expensive)


Yeah, I do that same exact thing. I check review after review on different products to determine what I want. After I do that, then I post it on forums and ask people about it, but it seems like EggXpert is not the most consistent forum... tomshardware is much better. On EggXpert no one really replies but on here I've had many replies on all of my threads :) 

Does brand really matter when it comes to GPU's though? I mean doesn't it perform the same but just different brands?
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a c 274 ) Power supply
January 28, 2012 3:23:14 AM

How much are you willing to spend on a mobo?
$120-150 will get you a nice mobo.
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January 28, 2012 3:27:15 AM

davcon said:
About the two units you listed.
The TXM is good,the HX is better.
The Antec TPN i listed is pretty much identical to the HX.
Both are Seasonics built off the M12D platform.
The HX650 was $99.99 straight up last sale at Ncix.
The Antec for $89.99 is a really good deal i've seen it even cheaper though $69.99 at Ncix.
The Seasonic M12II 620W is a good fit for you = semi-modular ,5yr
If you never plan on two gpu's you really don't need the others.(which have 4xPCI-E)


Okay, and I don't think I want the TXM or the HX anymore. I wanted a fully modular PSU but I guess semi is fine :/ 
So do you think 620w is fine for doing regular activities on the PC (not recording or anything) and playing BF3 and Minecraft?
And I don't plan on going with two GPU's, I don't think its logical to do that, but what if I decide I want to OC? Will the 620w SeaSonic support it?
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January 28, 2012 3:28:05 AM

davcon said:
How much are you willing to spend on a mobo?
$120-150 will get you a nice mobo.


$120 is fine.
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January 28, 2012 3:28:35 AM

KingSaif said:
Yeah, I do that same exact thing. I check review after review on different products to determine what I want. After I do that, then I post it on forums and ask people about it, but it seems like EggXpert is not the most consistent forum... tomshardware is much better. On EggXpert no one really replies but on here I've had many replies on all of my threads :) 

Does brand really matter when it comes to GPU's though? I mean doesn't it perform the same but just different brands?


Different brands use different coolers, PCB, memory, monitor hookups. I mean, they all work, but like everything else its about finding one that fits your needs. Balance of price, fan noise, design (matters to a lot of people), temperature, and of course the hookups. And then some manufacturers make overclocked models as well, that come factor OC and guaranteed stable. EVGA does this a lot. Then of course warranty is different on all. XFX is known for their "Double Lifetime Warranty" (owner 1 gets lifetime warranty then he can sell if and the 2nd owner would also get a lifetime warranty)

And you do want a Semi-modular PSU. When would you want to take off the 24 pin connector? If its modular you have the (small) risk of losing it. They make the essential cables attached and others modular. Its my personal preferred style.

The 620 will be fine for Overclocking. It has PLENTY of power for a single card in your price range with still room to spare.
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January 28, 2012 3:33:45 AM

Vettedude said:
Different brands use different coolers, PCB, memory, monitor hookups. I mean, they all work, but like everything else its about finding one that fits your needs. Balance of price, fan noise, design (matters to a lot of people), temperature, and of course the hookups. And then some manufacturers make overclocked models as well, that come factor OC and guaranteed stable. EVGA does this a lot. Then of course warranty is different on all. XFX is known for their "Double Lifetime Warranty" (owner 1 gets lifetime warranty then he can sell if and the 2nd owner would also get a lifetime warranty)

And you do want a Semi-modular PSU. When would you want to take off the 24 pin connector? If its modular you have the (small) risk of losing it. They make the essential cables attached and others modular. Its my personal preferred style.


Awesome explanation. To be honest, I know nothing about modular, semi-modular, and non-modular besides that modular looks more neater and organized and non-modular doesn't. Modular also helps airflow, right?

Anyways, what do you think about those cases I listed at the top? Which one do you prefer? Any recommendations?

And okay thanks :p  The SeaSonic is definitely the choice now. Although I don't plan on OC'ing (know nothing about it YET, and not willing to take any risks on my first PC build) I still want to be able to have the option to do so.
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January 28, 2012 3:35:42 AM

Modular only helps airflow if you keep some of the cables off. If you have all the cables connected its gonna be the same as a non-modular.

I know a guy on another site who recently built with the Gamma case. He likes it, but I don't like the look of it personally. That's opinion though. The other NZXT you posted looks too plain for my tastes as well. I like Side viewing panels :D . Any case will work though, thats the most "personal preference" thing about a build. Things I look for are a front intake fan mount and bottom mounted PSU. PSU mount is another preference, but bottom can help airflow (PSU can cool itself without using air from inside the case if you get a case has a PSU intake from below).
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January 28, 2012 3:35:54 AM

KingSaif said:
Okay, and I don't think I want the TXM or the HX anymore. I wanted a fully modular PSU but I guess semi is fine :/ 
So do you think 620w is fine for doing regular activities on the PC (not recording or anything) and playing BF3 and Minecraft?
And I don't plan on going with two GPU's, I don't think its logical to do that, but what if I decide I want to OC? Will the 620w SeaSonic support it?

Yes the M12II is just fine.
I agree about using just one gpu.
Btw the TXM and HX are semi-modular anyways.
Cost a pretty penny for a fully modular unit and they're kinda pointless imo.
You still need your 24pin and 8pin power connects so being detachable is rather silly.
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January 28, 2012 3:39:02 AM

@davcon Oh wow, I didn't know they were semi-modular lol. Sadly, I have no clue what your talking about with 24pin and 8pin power connects :( .

Thanks to you two, I've made up my decision to take the SeaSonic 620w :) 
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January 28, 2012 3:44:20 AM

Quick lesson then!

24 pin is the main Mobo power from PSU, without it, you don't have a computer.

4 pin, 8 pin, or the flexible 4+4 are for CPU power (called P4 connector since the Pentium 4 introduced them). 4 pin is for most consumer, 8 pin is for servers and I believe LGA2011 (Sandy Bridge E), and the 4+4 allows you to use either on that PSU.
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January 28, 2012 3:46:53 AM

@VetteDude Haha, I totally agree. It seems that EVERYONE likes the GAMMA considering the ratings on it. Did you see how many people rated it 5 eggs? Anyways, I personally also hate the way it looks. I love the other NZXT, even more than the HAF912. I love how simple it looks (plus black is my favorite color). Another reason why I'd choose that one over the HAF912 appearance wise is that the inside is painted black as well while the HAF912 is white :( . But at the end of the day, I don't really care about how the case looks, just as long as everything is flowing properly.
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January 28, 2012 3:49:05 AM

Read my 1st post in this thread for my suggestion on the case that I own. The link isn't working though, but its the Cooler Master Elite 430 (should be the top one when you click the link)
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