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January 28, 2012 12:41:10 PM

Is it really worth the extra 50 bucks? I can get a phenom black quad for 149.99 and the 8 core 8120 is 199.99 I am wondering if it is really worth it? I do play games but only Everquest one and FFXI so i am not sure the extra 8 cores would be worth it.


its 380 bucks for the quad core, 4gb ram, uhhh a newish.. actually ill just link

the quad core bundle is http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...


and the 8 core bundle is http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...


im not an AMD fan but the Intel bundles seem to be way to pricey i mean the i3 bundle is 329 and the i5 bundle is 640.....


It expires the 30th so yea.


thanks in advanced.
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January 28, 2012 1:03:12 PM

We on Toms will always suggest that you rather choose your own parts and get what you need from there. The 8 core bundle has more than just a better CPU to consider.

I would suggest you get an I3 but customized. Those prices really are not that good at all.
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January 28, 2012 1:18:09 PM

if you get the octo then you will have at least 4 real cores, + 4 partial cores. when the hotfix sorts out scheduling.
If you want amd then for the extra 50 I think you'll get a lot.
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January 28, 2012 3:18:42 PM

Both bundles suck. The first comes with a PSU and "GPU" that you don't need/want. The second comes with a mobo so old I question whether it can really run the 8120. (760G paired with the 8120? Really?) I think you are better off ignoring those bundles and finding something else.

As for the question, I don't suggest the 8120. As soon as you are talking about spending $200 for a CPU, the CPU that should come to mind is the 2500. (yes its more like $220, but the extra $20 is worth it.) At $150 the 2400 and the like aren't a bad idea, but the AMD PhII's aren't a bad idea either.
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January 28, 2012 5:08:26 PM
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January 28, 2012 5:32:17 PM

CPU + PS - $305 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... - $55 discount
MB for single card or dual cf $95- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
8GB 1866 memory - 59 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

the 8120 combo from newegg is a bit weak in the powersupply and especially the motherboard

the 8120 has a $10 off deal that you get an online cupon code in a week after ordering. so with the power supply combo MIR, additional rebates is another $20.

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January 28, 2012 7:15:32 PM

buy the parts separately and get yourself some quality parts. I'd suggest with a phenom II x4 as you'd have no need of the extra cores generally.
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January 28, 2012 8:41:26 PM

If I were you I'd build a system around the Core i5 2400. (why you ask? http://techreport.com/articles.x/21813/1)

Mobo: ASRock Z68M/USB3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
CPU: Intel Core i5-2400 Sandy Bridge 3.1GHz

If you prefer a full motherboard there is always this one: Foxconn Z68A-S LGA 1155

It is cheaper than the FX 8120 but beats it to a pulp under most tests. Not sure why someone would build around a Bulldozer. Doesn't make sense... even for Multi-threaded apps.
January 28, 2012 9:05:44 PM

Benchmarks... I've learned... aren't what makes a computer... what makes a computer is how well the customer is satisfied with it.

In fact... benchmarks aren't a reliable source. especially in the computing industry.

I run a Mac, and have both an Intel Based system and an AMD based system... and they all do their jobs efficiently and satisfy m.

I get so sick of the "hey look at me!!!! im an intel fanboy!" or the old "hey look at me im an amd fanboy" and i especially get sick of hearing about how Windows boxes are better than OSX boxes.

Because in reality... each pose strengths in areas the other doesnt.

get over being a fan boy, its disgusting.


25 years professional production engineer. I use all boxes.
January 28, 2012 9:40:19 PM

biscuitasylum said:
Benchmarks... I've learned... aren't what makes a computer... what makes a computer is how well the customer is satisfied with it.

In fact... benchmarks aren't a reliable source. especially in the computing industry.

I run a Mac, and have both an Intel Based system and an AMD based system... and they all do their jobs efficiently and satisfy m.

I get so sick of the "hey look at me!!!! im an intel fanboy!" or the old "hey look at me im an amd fanboy" and i especially get sick of hearing about how Windows boxes are better than OSX boxes.

Because in reality... each pose strengths in areas the other doesnt.

get over being a fan boy, its disgusting.


25 years professional production engineer. I use all boxes.


If I go by what you are saying, it comes down to personal preference, which in most cases creates fanboy-ism.
The purpose of getting a SB at least in terms of games is you're much better off with it, than buying something else. Now that doesn't mean you can't play games just fine on say, a phenom ii or BD. Just that overall, your best performance between them is going to be SB in cpu limited situations. I by no means am a fanboy of either AMD or intel, i have owned both. I can however say i'm not a fan of Mac. I have no problem with the OS, which has it's purposes, just have a problem with the overpriced for what you get hardware.
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January 28, 2012 10:08:21 PM

omega21xx said:
If I go by what you are saying, it comes down to personal preference, which in most cases creates fanboy-ism.
The purpose of getting a SB at least in terms of games is you're much better off with it, than buying something else. Now that doesn't mean you can't play games just fine on say, a phenom ii or BD. Just that overall, your best performance between them is going to be SB in cpu limited situations. I by no means am a fanboy of either AMD or intel, i have owned both. I can however say i'm not a fan of Mac. I have no problem with the OS, which has it's purposes, just have a problem with the overpriced for what you get hardware.


Exactly... who wants to get less for their hard earned money? The people pushing that sort of line (Apple folks and the like) are the same peeps I remember from the 80s. All style.. no substance. Like a Justin Bieber song containing no lyrical content worthy of any mention... but lil girls think he's cute.

I was done making my purchasing decisions based on this criteria when I turned around 15yrs old. I rather enjoy empirical means of testing (as objective as possible) from as many angles as possible.

I'm not about to waste money on an inferior product. That does not make logical sense to me.
January 28, 2012 10:20:40 PM

biscuitasylum said:
Benchmarks... I've learned... aren't what makes a computer... what makes a computer is how well the customer is satisfied with it.

In fact... benchmarks aren't a reliable source. especially in the computing industry.

I run a Mac, and have both an Intel Based system and an AMD based system... and they all do their jobs efficiently and satisfy m.

I get so sick of the "hey look at me!!!! im an intel fanboy!" or the old "hey look at me im an amd fanboy" and i especially get sick of hearing about how Windows boxes are better than OSX boxes.

Because in reality... each pose strengths in areas the other doesnt.

get over being a fan boy, its disgusting.


25 years professional production engineer. I use all boxes.


Firstly, no. It's not the matter of fanboyism. It's the matter of "bang of the buck".
Actually, benchmark is a reliable source. It helps people choose product wisely. It's also make comparison easier between products. If you don't rely on benchmark when buying computer parts, trust me, you'll regret.
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this build will give you exellent performance for what you at a great price then alll you have to do is buy the best GPU you can afford.
January 28, 2012 11:48:11 PM

No. Benchmarks aren't reliable. I have followed benchmarks before only to be let down. They are not the savior, like people pretend to think they are.

One clear instance is with the 8120. I have read over and over here how its a fail processor... clearly a sign of stupidity because if you dig a little deeper outside of here... you will find that this processor happens to be an excellent choice for certain applications. Especially in the Linux world.

Just like the factors in regards to certain professional audio systems... each system has a strength and a weakness. I could argue all day long that V-dosc (which im sure are way over your heads) is the ultimate system for everything and anything... however it is not the case. JBL produces clean line arrays to that sound better in certain venues. The Meyers systems are more tour friendly because of less racks used in the system. Each company has their weakness and strength and to cancel out any possible idea they don't

It works the same way with Cars and trucks. Its a fact of life.

Ive had AMD processors give out just like Ive had Intel processors give out.

Opinions are exactly as they are... Opinions.

Last night I amused myself in the pro audio section and was amazed to find very few people even have a clue as to what "pro audio" truly is... and its not Dr Dre headphones or some Sony DVD player you bought from Best Buy.

Right now its clear that hardware is way far ahead of software its not even funny. In every part of the electronics industry. Its always like that and always will be like that... its just really really noticeable right now.

To say a product is inferior when it isn't for certain applications only shows the lack of knowledge you have.

January 29, 2012 12:12:33 AM

biscuitasylum said:
No. Benchmarks aren't reliable. I have followed benchmarks before only to be let down. They are not the savior, like people pretend to think they are.

One clear instance is with the 8120. I have read over and over here how its a fail processor... clearly a sign of stupidity because if you dig a little deeper outside of here... you will find that this processor happens to be an excellent choice for certain applications. Especially in the Linux world.

Just like the factors in regards to certain professional audio systems... each system has a strength and a weakness. I could argue all day long that V-dosc (which im sure are way over your heads) is the ultimate system for everything and anything... however it is not the case. JBL produces clean line arrays to that sound better in certain venues. The Meyers systems are more tour friendly because of less racks used in the system. Each company has their weakness and strength and to cancel out any possible idea they don't

It works the same way with Cars and trucks. Its a fact of life.

Ive had AMD processors give out just like Ive had Intel processors give out.

Opinions are exactly as they are... Opinions.
Last night I amused myself in the pro audio section and was amazed to find very few people even have a clue as to what "pro audio" truly is... and its not Dr Dre headphones or some Sony DVD player you bought from Best Buy.

Right now its clear that hardware is way far ahead of software its not even funny. In every part of the electronics industry. Its always like that and always will be like that... its just really really noticeable right now.

To say a product is inferior when it isn't for certain applications only shows the lack of knowledge you have.


I don't think you understand why people say it sucks. Most people here ask about gaming pc's, in case when it comes to gaming, the fx cpus don't perform any better than a cheaper phenom ii and are even out performed by an I3. Yes its good in some applications, its by no means a bad CPU. It just when its best application is only slightly faster than a quad core sandy bridge CPU. It doesn't show a strong reason to get it when you could get a better all around quad core for the same or less.
January 29, 2012 12:13:54 AM

What? I don't know what you talking about but my point is, benchmark is needed in computer hardware world.

And for the Bulldozer, yes, it's actually a good processor. But it isn't optimized good enough for software for the time being. That's what it lack for. Microsoft also has release a patch for it, but it's very little to none improvement.

So, Bulldozer is not a good CPU for the time being.
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January 29, 2012 12:32:46 AM

biscuitasylum said:
No. Benchmarks aren't reliable. I have followed benchmarks before only to be let down. They are not the savior, like people pretend to think they are.

One clear instance is with the 8120. I have read over and over here how its a fail processor... clearly a sign of stupidity because if you dig a little deeper outside of here... you will find that this processor happens to be an excellent choice for certain applications. Especially in the Linux world.

Just like the factors in regards to certain professional audio systems... each system has a strength and a weakness. I could argue all day long that V-dosc (which im sure are way over your heads) is the ultimate system for everything and anything... however it is not the case. JBL produces clean line arrays to that sound better in certain venues. The Meyers systems are more tour friendly because of less racks used in the system. Each company has their weakness and strength and to cancel out any possible idea they don't

It works the same way with Cars and trucks. Its a fact of life.

Ive had AMD processors give out just like Ive had Intel processors give out.

Opinions are exactly as they are... Opinions.

Last night I amused myself in the pro audio section and was amazed to find very few people even have a clue as to what "pro audio" truly is... and its not Dr Dre headphones or some Sony DVD player you bought from Best Buy.

Right now its clear that hardware is way far ahead of software its not even funny. In every part of the electronics industry. Its always like that and always will be like that... its just really really noticeable right now.

To say a product is inferior when it isn't for certain applications only shows the lack of knowledge you have.


Woah there... back up back up.

Nobody has claimed "benchmarks" to be "saviors". I have yet to hear anyone claiming that benchmarks are about to save us from an evil Orchish Horde coming out of Mordor.

What we are saying is that what matters is perspective. Each benchmark is representative of a different "perspective" (or way of going about things). Each benchmark suite is unique in how it taxes and tests hardware.

So yeah... I'd partially agree with you that looking at a single benchmark result and then claiming that it is representative of the whole is irrational... but when you run a gigantic list of various benchmarks that tax the CPU in differing ways... you get a better overall picture.

There will always remain a degree of uncertainty but benchmarks are as objective as possible in terms of "what we can expect performance wise" from purchasing a product.
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January 29, 2012 2:14:33 AM

Stop trolling :non: 
January 29, 2012 3:39:54 AM

is someone planning a lady gaga concert over here?

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