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Here is a rig i built for my friend. He intends on running BF3 on high settings on 1920x1080. Display is an HDTV 27 inch.

Case: * Apevia X-Plorer 2 Mid-Tower Case w/ Side-Panel Window and MultiMeter Display (Silver Color with 200mm UV Blue LED Fan)

Laser Engraving: NONE

Laser Engraving Message:

Internal USB Extension Module: None

Neon Light Upgrade: None

Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Maximum 120MM Color Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+15] (Green Color)

Noise Reduction Technology: None

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-2600K 3.40 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified) [+100]

Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: Pro OC (Performance Overclock 10% or more) [+19]

Cooling Fan: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)

Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: Standard Coolant

Motherboard: * [CrossFireX] GigaByte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ Intel Smart Response Tech. & 7.1 Dolby Home Theater Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, 2x SATA-III RAID, mSATA Connector onboard, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 3 PCIe X1 & 2 PCI (All Venom OC Certified)

Intel Smart Response Technology for Z68: None

Memory: 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module (Corsair XMS Gaming Memory with Heat Spreader)

Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+283] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)

Freebies: None

Video Card 2: None

Video Card 3: None

Power Supply Upgrade: 800 Watts - XtremeGear Gaming Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready [+41]

Hard Drive: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)

Data Hard Drive: None

Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None

External Hard Drive (USB3.0/2.0/eSATA): None

USB Flash Drive: None

Optical Drive: Sony 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive [+4] (BLACK COLOR)

Optical Drive 2: None

Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

3D Vision Glasses: None

LCD Monitor: None

2nd Monitor: None

3rd Monitor: None

Speakers: None

Network: Intel Pro Gigabite 10/100/1000 Network Card [+34]

Network Switch: None

Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard

Mouse: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse

Freebies: None

Mouse Pad: None

Gaming Gear: None

Extra Thermal Display: None

Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: None

External Wireless Network Card: None

Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None

Bluetooth: None

Flash Media Reader/Writer: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)

Video Camera: None

Headset: None

Printer: None

Cable: None

Power Protection: None

Surge Protector: None

IEEE1394 Card: None

Internal USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports

USB Port: None

Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium [+104] (64-bit Edition)

Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None

Office Suite: None

Games: None

Ultra Care Option: None

Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

Rush Service: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS

This is the absolute maximum budget for my friends PC. But im worried about a few things. One the PSU is terrible on this build i think but i have extended his budget already. Should i downgrade graphics card and upgrad to corsair 750w. he is not technical savy and will never dare to SLI or anything like overclocking. Anyway not sure the quality of his HDTV. I think its a 27inch maybe 30 at max. But i think its only 720p capable. CAn he even project a 1080 resolution?? Also any upgrades or downgrades i should make please suggest.
 
Is this a cyberpower build, or your build?

1) 720P resolution is 1280 x 728. Regardless of the monitor size. He will need a different 1080P monitor.
Keep the 720P to use as an extended desktop.

2) Games will use two or three cores, rarely more. The extra hyperthreads of a 2600K will go largely unused. Get a 2500K for $100 less instead.
It will OC to the same levels as a 2600K.

3) GTX570 is good.

4) Liquid cooling is not needed a $30 aftermarket cooler is all that is needed.

5) A GTX570 needs only 550w with 38a on the 12v rails plus two 6-pin PCI-E power leads.
My short list of quality units would include Seasonic, XFX, PC P&C, Antec and Corsair. A cheap psu is the last place to economize.

6) For a build in this budget range should try to include a SSD for the os and some apps. 60-120gb is ok; expect to pay $1.5 per gb
Look to Intel or Samsung for reliability:
http://www.behardware.com/articles/831-7/components-returns-rates.html

7) The apevia case is high on "bling" but is worthless as a gamer. I see insufficient airflow.
Look for a case with at least two 120mm intake fans or equivalent.
You can't go wrong wit an antec 300 illusion model:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066
 
How much are you spending on this build you ordered and can you give us the budget amount you are working with. The problem with ordering something like this is that you are stuck with the choices that are on the web site and sometimes there is not a good variety for selection. You also don't need to post all the options that you selected none on , it makes for a long confusing post. The main components are enough , cpu ,psu ,gou , hdd and ram. What options do you have on the power supply , do they list any major brands as choices. If you go with the 2500k and save $100 can you fit in a ssd for the OS. How much for the case option , maybe you can save some there with a less expensive case. Also read this review before you decide on the build it may make a difference;
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/battlefield-3-graphics-performance,3063.html
 

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Okay after reviewing your posts here are the answers to your questions. My budget can absolutly be no higher than 1280. I will look into less expensive case. And they give you a whole lit of PSU to choose from. Hre are some.

800 Watts - CoolerMaster Silent Pro Gold 80 Plus Power Supply (80+ Gold) [+85]850 Watts - Raidmax RX-850AE 80 Plus Gold Power Supply [+32]* 850 Watts - Thermaltake TR2 RX Modular 80 Plus PSU - PN: W0319RU [+55]850 Watts - Thermaltake Toughpower Grand TPG-850M Gold Modular 80 Plus Power Supply [+139]850 Watts - CoolerMaster Silent Pro Gaming 80 Plus Power Supply [+75][FREE upgrade from Corsair 750W PSU] 850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready [+56]850 Watts - Corsair Professional Series CMPSU-AX850 80 Plus Gold Power Supply [+126]850 Watts - NZXT HALE90 80 Plus Gold Power Supply [+95]950 Watts - XtremeGear Gaming Power Supply [+16]1,000 Watts - Azza Titan 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply [+39]1,000 Watts - Raidmax RX-1000AE 80 Plus Gold Power Supply [+44]1,000 Watts - SilverStone ST1000 1000W ATX 80 Plus Active PFC Power Supply [+126]* 1,000 Watts - Thermaltake TP-1000M ToughPower Modular, 80 Plus Silver Certified, Quad SLI Ready, CrossfireX Ready & Active PFC Power Supply [+181]1,000 Watts - CoolerMaster Silent Pro Gaming 80 Plus Power Supply [+98]1,000 Watts - Thermaltake TR2 RX Modular 80 Plus PSU - PN: TRX-1000M [+106]1,000 Watts - CoolerMaster Silent Pro Gold 80 Plus Power Supply ( 80 Plus Gold) [+126]1,050 Watts - Corsair HX1050W 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready [+166]1,050 Watts - Thermaltake Toughpower Grand TPG-1050M Gold Modular 80 Plus Power Supply [+191]1,100 Watts - CyberPowerPC Gaming Power Supply SLI/CrossFireX Ready [+57]1,200 Watts - Corsair Professional Series CMPSU-AX1200 80 Plus Gold Power Supply [+225]1,200 Watts - Raidmax RX-1200AE 80 Plus Gold Power Supply [+74][FREE Upgrade from CoolerMaster 1000W PSU] 1,200 Watts - CoolerMaster Silent Pro 80 Plus Gold Power Supply ( 80 Plus Gold) [+126]1,200 Watts - In-Win Commander IRP-COM1200 80 Plus Power Supply [+106]1,200 Watts - SilverStone ST1200 1200W ATX 80 Plus Active PFC 80 Plus Power Supply [+204]1,200 Watts - Thermaltake TR2 RX Modular 80 Plus PSU - PN: TRX-1200M [+136]* 1,200 Watts - Thermaltake TP-1200M ToughPower Modular, 80 Plus Silver Certified, Quad SLI Ready, CrossfireX Ready & Active PFC Power Supply [+206]1,200 Watts - Thermaltake Toughpower Grand TPG-1200M Gold Modular 80 Plus Power Supply [+242]1,350 Watts - Thermaltake TP-1350M ToughPower Modular, 80 Plus Silver Certified, Quad SLI Ready, CrossFireX Ready & Eco-Friendly Power Supply [+241]1,500 Watts - SilverStone SST-ST1500 ATX 80 Plus Active PFC Power Supply [+285]1,500 Watts - Thermaltake TP-1500M ToughPower Modular Power Supply Model:W0171 [+303]
i will also not invest in SSd as my friend has chosen a GPU uprgade instead of SSd. I will look into other cvases.
 



Now this is much easier to read and digest , this could be a nice build with the few tweeks that were suggested. You should not downgrade the graphics card , and the thing you need to know is that BF3 does not need a high powered cpu to play it will run on a dual core cpu , it's the video card that is critical for this game. Corsair or Thermaltake tough power are good choices for power supplies.
 

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1:how do you know that psu is terrible?
2:if you wanna downgrade your card then think your friend want to run bf3 on high which gpu are thinking then.
3:gamming doesn't require more than 2/4 cores so my opinon here is get 2500k and save money for a decent psu that you mention psu is terrible.you will get same performance of 2600k.
4:keep gtx 570 this can handle all games at maxed out.
 

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After all of your suggestions here is what i came up with
Case: * Apevia X-Trooper LED Light Mid-Tower Case w/ Side Window [+1] (Green LED Light Color)
Laser Engraving: NONE
Laser Engraving Message:
Internal USB Extension Module: None
Neon Light Upgrade: None
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Maximum 120MM Color Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+15] (Green Color)
Noise Reduction Technology: None
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-2500K 3.30 GHz 6M Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified)
Venom Boost Fast And Efficient Factory Overclocking: Extreme OC (Extreme Overclock 20% or more) [+49]
Cooling Fan: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
Coolant for Cyberpower Xtreme Hydro Water Cooling Kits: Standard Coolant
Motherboard: * [CrossFireX] GigaByte Z68AP-D3 Intel Z68 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ Intel Smart Response Tech. & 7.1 Dolby Home Theater Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, 2x SATA-III RAID, mSATA Connector onboard, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 3 PCIe X1 & 2 PCI (All Venom OC Certified)
Intel Smart Response Technology for Z68: None
Memory: 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module (Corsair XMS Gaming Memory with Heat Spreader)
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+283] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
Freebies: None
Video Card 2: None
Video Card 3: None
Power Supply Upgrade: 850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready [+97]
Hard Drive: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
Data Hard Drive: None
Hard Drive Cooling Fan: None
External Hard Drive (USB3.0/2.0/eSATA): None
USB Flash Drive: None
Optical Drive: Sony 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive [+4] (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: None
Sound: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
3D Vision Glasses: None
LCD Monitor: None
2nd Monitor: None
3rd Monitor: None
Speakers: None
Network: Intel Pro Gigabite 10/100/1000 Network Card [+34]
Network Switch: None
Keyboard: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
Mouse: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
Freebies: None
Mouse Pad: None
Gaming Gear: None
Extra Thermal Display: None
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: None
External Wireless Network Card: None
Wireless 802.11 B/G/N Access Point: None
Bluetooth: None
Flash Media Reader/Writer: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
Video Camera: None
Headset: None
Printer: None
Cable: None
Power Protection: None
Surge Protector: None
IEEE1394 Card: None
Internal USB Port: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
USB Port: None
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium [+104] (64-bit Edition)
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
Office Suite: None
Games: None
Ultra Care Option: None
Service: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
Rush Service: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
AVerage FPS on MW2 with this build is 156 much better than the 135 i was getting before. I overclocked the CPU alot i think to 3.9ghz with turbo to 4.3ghz. Kept liquid coolant and adjusted to quality PSU with more amps and watts.
 

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its funny i was getting 135 on I7 2600k overclocked by 10% and now i overclocked the I5 by 20% i get faster FPS so i guess you guys were right I5 is the way to go. All he is doing is just gaming on this computer so multitasking applications is not neccasary
 

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of course we are right gamming require only 2 or 4 cores not more than that.the difference between 2600k vs 2500k is tha 2600k is only 100mhz faster so don't worry about that 100mhz does'nt speed up your games.