Utterly confused with highspeed SD cards (help needed)

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ooops, that's the link for the 256 megs one. I meant this one:
http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=HSSD512MB#d...

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In article <1113760565.779098.79010@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Newbie" <chromallly@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm planning to buy the Canon SD300 digicam. From the reviews I've
> read, they said I would need a high-speed SD card if I want to record
> movies at 640X480 30fps. When I went to shop for a 512 meg SD card, I
> noticed that there are a lot of different kinds of SD cards out there
> and they don't mention if they're highspeed or not. They don't even
> mention their transfer rate. I then went to do some more research and
> found out that some SD cards out there can only handle 2 - 4 megs per
> sec transfer rate. The SD300 digicam needs 8-10 megs per sec for the
> video.
>
> So I went to buydigs and saw this SD card marked "high-speed":
> http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=HSSD256MB#d...
>
> Is that the SD card I'm looking for? Thanks.

I would not buy ANY device that relies on SD cards. The SD format has
anti-consumer intentions behind it. Data can be tagged so that it can't
be transfered onto or off from the SD card. It was originally to
prevent replication of copyrighted works, whether it is in the
consumer's right to copy it or not.

You should take a look at sample videos and pictures before investing in
a combination still/video camera. The results are usually
disappointing. The dual use may be a fun feature sometimes but it's not
always worth investing money into it. It depends on what you want from
it.

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Newbie wrote:
> I'm planning to buy the Canon SD300 digicam. From the reviews I've
> read, they said I would need a high-speed SD card if I want to record
> movies at 640X480 30fps. When I went to shop for a 512 meg SD card, I
> noticed that there are a lot of different kinds of SD cards out there
> and they don't mention if they're highspeed or not. They don't even
> mention their transfer rate. I then went to do some more research and
> found out that some SD cards out there can only handle 2 - 4 megs per
> sec transfer rate. The SD300 digicam needs 8-10 megs per sec for the
> video.
>
> So I went to buydigs and saw this SD card marked "high-speed":
> http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=HSSD256MB#d...
>
> Is that the SD card I'm looking for? Thanks.
>

There may be SD cards in that speed range, but I would look for 1Gb
cards as they are more likely to be the high speed cards.
Buy from a dealer that has a liberal return policy until you know which
cards work well with the camera.


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Kevin McMurtrie wrote:
> In article <1113760565.779098.79010@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Newbie" <chromallly@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I'm planning to buy the Canon SD300 digicam. From the reviews I've
>>read, they said I would need a high-speed SD card if I want to record
>>movies at 640X480 30fps. When I went to shop for a 512 meg SD card, I
>>noticed that there are a lot of different kinds of SD cards out there
>>and they don't mention if they're highspeed or not. They don't even
>>mention their transfer rate. I then went to do some more research and
>>found out that some SD cards out there can only handle 2 - 4 megs per
>>sec transfer rate. The SD300 digicam needs 8-10 megs per sec for the
>>video.
>>
>>So I went to buydigs and saw this SD card marked "high-speed":
>>http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=HSSD256MB#d...
>>
>>Is that the SD card I'm looking for? Thanks.
>
>
> I would not buy ANY device that relies on SD cards. The SD format has
> anti-consumer intentions behind it. Data can be tagged so that it can't
> be transfered onto or off from the SD card. It was originally to
> prevent replication of copyrighted works, whether it is in the
> consumer's right to copy it or not.
>
> You should take a look at sample videos and pictures before investing in
> a combination still/video camera. The results are usually
> disappointing. The dual use may be a fun feature sometimes but it's not
> always worth investing money into it. It depends on what you want from
> it.

First, do you know of ANY camera that uses an SD card that way?
Second, while video mode isn't something I would base purchase on, I
have found it useful a couple of times.
Not all of us carry a video camera and still camera around all the time,
so that is why each often 'emulates' the other to some degree.


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Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net

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Newbie wrote:
> I'm planning to buy the Canon SD300 digicam. From the reviews I've
> read, they said I would need a high-speed SD card if I want to record
> movies at 640X480 30fps. When I went to shop for a 512 meg SD card, I
> noticed that there are a lot of different kinds of SD cards out there
> and they don't mention if they're highspeed or not. They don't even
> mention their transfer rate. I then went to do some more research and
> found out that some SD cards out there can only handle 2 - 4 megs per
> sec transfer rate. The SD300 digicam needs 8-10 megs per sec for the
> video.

I would go for cards with a guaranteed transfer rate - I've used and
recommend the KingMax Platinum and SanDisk Ultra II. These manufacturers
quote high read and write speeds in MB/s. The faster transfer rate will
also produce benefits when using a USB 2.0 Hi-Speed reader and computer.

Cheers,
David

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I think that the review that you read should have read 'high capacity'
rather than 'high speed'. The larger capacity card will allow longer
movie clips. 512MB will allow about 4 minutes of high quality video,
while the 16 MB card will only give you 6 seconds at the same quality.
Info taken from Canon SD300 specs at

http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/controller?act=ModelTe...

The Canon SD300 is listed as a digital camera, not a video camera. It's
video mode is a lower quality than a good video camera.

Just make sure that you buy a 'known' brand name SD card, like SanDisk.

Gil

At approximately 2005/04/17 14:56, Newbie typed these characters:
> I'm planning to buy the Canon SD300 digicam. From the reviews I've
> read, they said I would need a high-speed SD card if I want to record
> movies at 640X480 30fps. When I went to shop for a 512 meg SD card, I
> noticed that there are a lot of different kinds of SD cards out there
> and they don't mention if they're highspeed or not. They don't even
> mention their transfer rate. I then went to do some more research and
> found out that some SD cards out there can only handle 2 - 4 megs per
> sec transfer rate. The SD300 digicam needs 8-10 megs per sec for the
> video.
>
> So I went to buydigs and saw this SD card marked "high-speed":
> http://www.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?sku=HSSD256MB#d...
>
> Is that the SD card I'm looking for? Thanks.
>

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Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtri@dslextreme.com> writes:
>
> I would not buy ANY device that relies on SD cards. The SD format has
> anti-consumer intentions behind it. Data can be tagged so that it can't
> be transfered onto or off from the SD card. It was originally to
> prevent replication of copyrighted works, whether it is in the
> consumer's right to copy it or not.

Could you elaborate?

Pierre
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"Newbie" <chromallly@yahoo.com> ruminated:
>I'm planning to buy the Canon SD300 digicam. From the reviews I've
>read, they said I would need a high-speed SD card if I want to record
>movies at 640X480 30fps.

On my SD200, i can take continuous 640x480 30fps video on a
standard sandisk 512 MB SD card. The data rate is around 2-3
MB/s on the video, so the faster of the "standard speed"
cards should be fine.

Andrew