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October 29, 2011 6:18:39 PM

Hey everyone,


I recently purchased a new PC, and just wanted your thoughts about how it shapes up in terms of gaming. I'm not an ultra-hardcore gamer (no multiple monitors or anything like that), but I want to be able to play current games at high/ultra settings and games in the next few years at least on medium/maybe high level. Just to add: I'm looking for a 23 or 24 inch monitor, resolution no more than 1920x1080 or 1200, so I don't have anything more demanding than that planned at the moment.

OK, so the specs:


CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (overclocked to i7 Quad core 4.5GHz)
CPU cooler: Corsair CWCH60 Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 PRO R3 Motherboard
Memory: Kingston 16GB(4x4GB) DDR3 1600MHz CL9
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 64MB 3.5" SATA 6GB/S 7200RPM Dual Processor
Graphics Card: nVidia Geforce GTX580,1536MB-DDR5,384 BIT, DUAL DVI-I, HDMI,PCIE 2.0, ASUS
Power Supply: 850W Corsair TX Series Power Supply
Case: Cooler Master HAF932 Full Tower Case
Operating System: Windows 7 Home Premium 64


What do you think? Will this hold up well for now and for several more years? If not, is there any component that would act as a bottleneck?

I'd appreciate any thoughts and opinions. Thanks in advance!
October 30, 2011 12:49:47 AM

Thank you Kai-Fei. I'm actually having this system set up by a company for me, and they give you a list of options for motherboards. The one you recommend isn't available among their choices, though.


Just to give more info on the motherboard, these are the specifications that they provide for it on their site. Is this mobo really going to drag the rest of the system down with it? I'm terrible with mobos, so I can't quite figure out what/where the problem is, and how to look for better alternatives.



Motherboard - ATX - iP67 - LGA1155 Socket - SATA-300 (RAID), SATA-600 (RAID), eSATA - Gigabit Ethernet - FireWire - SuperSpeed USB - HD Audio (8-channel)

Specifications

CPU Intel® Socket 1155 for Intel® 2nd Generation Core™ i7 Processor/Core™ i5 Processor/Core™ i3 Processor/
Support Intel® 32nm CPU
Supports Intel® Turbo Boost Technology 2.0
* The Intel® Turbo Boost Technology 2.0 support depends on the CPU types.
* Refer to www.asus.com for Intel CPU support list
Chipset Intel® P67(B3) Express Chipset
Memory 4 x DIMM, Max. 32 GB, DDR3 2200(O.C.)*/2133(O.C.)/1866(O.C.)/1600/1333/1066 Non-ECC,Un-buffered Memory
Dual Channel memory architecture
Supports Intel® Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)
* According to Intel® SPEC, the Max. 32GB memory capacity can be supported with DIMMs of 8GB (or above). ASUS will update QVL once the DIMMs are available on the market.
* Hyper DIMM support is subject to the physical characteristics of individual CPUs. Some hyper DIMMs only support one DIMM per channel. Please refer to Memory QVL for details.
* Due to CPU behavior, DDR3 2200/2000/1800 MHz memory module will run at DDR3 2133/1866/1600 MHz frequency as default.
* Please refer to www.asus.com or user manual for Memory QVL.
Expansion Slots 2 x PCIe 2.0 x16 (single at x16 or dual at x8/x8 mode)
1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 * [Black] (max. at x4 mode, compatible with PCIe x1 and x4 devices)
2 x PCIe 2.0 x1
2 x PCI
*The PCIe x16_3 slot shares bandwidth with PCIe x1_1 slot, PCIe x1_2 slot, USB3_34 and ESATA12. The PCIe x16_3 runs at x1 mode by default for system resource optimization.(PCIe x1_2 will be disabled.)
Multi-GPU Support Supports NVIDIA® Quad-GPU SLI™ Technology
Supports ATI® Quad-GPU CrossFireX™ Technology
Storage Intel® P67(B3) Express Chipset
2 xSATA 6.0 Gb/s ports (gray)
4 xSATA 3.0 Gb/s ports (blue)
Intel® Rapid Storage Technology Support RAID 0,1,5,10
Marvell® 9120 controller
2 xSATA 6.0 Gb/s ports (navy blue)*
JMicron® JMB362 SATA controller
2 xExternal SATA 3.0 Gb/s ports*
* These SATA ports are for data hard drives only. ATAPI devices are not supported.
LAN Intel® 82579 Gigabit LAN Dual interconnect between the Integrated LAN controller and Physical Layer (PHY)
Bluetooth Bluetooth v2.1 + EDR
ASUS BT GO! Utility
Audio Realtek® ALC892 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC
- Absolute Pitch 192khz/24bit True BD Lossless Sound
- BD Audio Layer Content Protection
- DTS Surround Sensation UltraPC
- Supports Jack-Detection, Multi-streaming, Front Panel Jack-Retasking
- Coaxial / Optical S/PDIF out ports at back I/O
IEEE 1394 VIA® 6308P controller supports 2 x 1394a port(s) (one at mid-board; one at back panel)
USB NEC USB 3.0 controllers
- 4 x USB 3.0/2.0 ports (2 ports at mid-board for front panel support, 2 ports at back panel (blue))
Intel® P67(B3) Express Chipset
- 12 x USB 2.0/1.1 ports (6 ports at mid-board, 6 ports at back panel)
ASUS Unique Features ASUS Dual Intelligent Processors 2 with DIGI+ VRM:
ASUS EPU
- EPU, EPU switch
ASUS TPU
- Auto Tuning, TurboV, TPU switch
ASUS Digital Power Design
- Industry leading Digital 12+2 Phase Power Design
- ASUS DIGI+ VRM Utility
ASUS BT GO! (Bluetooth)
- Folder Sync, BT Transfer, Shot & Send, BT to Net, Music Player, Personal Manager, BT Turbo Remote
ASUS Exclusive Features
- MemOK!
- AI Suite II
- AI Charger
- Anti Surge
- ASUS EFI BIOS EZ Mode featuring friendly graphics user interface
ASUS Quiet Thermal Solution
- ASUS Fanless Design: Stylish Heat-sink solution
- ASUS Fan Xpert
ASUS EZ DIY
- ASUS Q-Shield
- ASUS Q-Connector
- ASUS O.C. Tuner
- ASUS CrashFree BIOS 3
- ASUS EZ Flash 2
ASUS Q-Design
- ASUS Q-LED (CPU, DRAM, VGA, Boot Device LED)
- ASUS Q-Slot
- ASUS Q-DIMM
Overclocking Features Precision Tweaker 2
- vCore: Adjustable CPU voltage at 0.005V increment
- vCCIO: Adjustable I/O voltage at 0.00625V increment
- vCCSA: 144-step system agent voltage control
- vDRAM Bus: 160-step Memory voltage control
- vPCH: 90-step Chipset voltage control
- vCPU_PLL: 160-step CPU & PCH PLL voltage control
SFS (Stepless Frequency Selection)
- BCLK/PEG frequency tuning from 80MHz up to 300MHz at 0.1MHz increment
Overclocking Protection
- ASUS C.P.R.(CPU Parameter Recall)
Back Panel I/O Ports 1 x Bluetooth module
1 x PS/2 Mouse (green)
1 x PS/2 Keyboard (purple)
2 x External SATA (1 x Power eSATA)
1 x IEEE 1394a
1 x LAN(RJ45) port(s) (Intel® LAN)
2 x USB 3.0/2.0 ports (blue)
6 x USB 2.0/1.1 ports
2 x S/PDIF Out (1 for Coaxial, 1 for Optical)
8 -Channel Audio I/O
Internal I/O Connectors 1 x USB 3.0/2.0 connector(s) supports additional 2 USB ports (19-pin)
3 x USB 2.0/1.1 connector(s) support additional 6 USB ports
1 x MemOK! Button
4 x SATA 6.0Gb/s connectors (2 x gray; 2 x navy blue)
4 x SATA 3.0Gb/s connectors (blue)
1 x IEEE 1394a connector
1 x CPU Fan connector(s) (4-pin)
2 x Chassis Fan connector(s) (1 x 4-pin; 1 x 3-pin)
1 x Power Fan connector(s) (3-pin)
1 x TPU switch
1 x EPU switch
1 x S/PDIF Out connector
24-pin EATX Power connector
8-pin EATX 12V Power connector
Front panel audio connector
System Panel (Q-Connector)
BIOS 32 Mb Flash ROM , EFI AMI BIOS, , EFI AMI BIOS, PnP, DMI2.0, WfM2.0, SM BIOS 2.5, ACPI 2.0a, Multi-language BIOS, ASUS EZ Flash 2, ASUS CrashFree BIOS 3
Manageability WfM 2.0,DMI 2.0,WOL by PME,WOR by PME,PXE
Accessories User's manual
2 x SATA 3.0Gb/s cables
2 x SATA 6.0Gb/s cables
1 x Q-Shield
2 in 1 Q-connector
1 x ASUS USB 3.0 Bracket
1 x ASUS SLI bridge connector
Support Disc Drivers
Anti-virus software (OEM version)
ASUS Update
ASUS Utilities
Form Factor ATX Form Factor
12 inch x 9.6 inch ( 30.5 cm x 24.4 cm )
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October 30, 2011 1:17:35 AM

What's the site and how much does this cost?

Looks good except the cooler, a good air cooler will cost less, make less noise and provide equivalent, if not better, cooling.
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October 30, 2011 1:43:34 AM

You could save ~$100 by going with the i5-2500K since there's no benefit to the i7 when it comes to gaming.

I'd be wary of that Kingston RAM. While they make good stuff, they make all of their kits run on 1.65V, not 1.5V, and there are generally a lot of stability issues on the newer P67 and Z68 platforms because of that.
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October 30, 2011 3:50:33 AM

Thank you for your replies, guys.


k1114, without providing any advertising, I'm having the system set up by a local seller via ebay. I went with them because they have very positive feedback (99.8%), offer a 3 year warranty for parts and services, are located relatively close to me, in case I need to visit in person, and had the most reasonable selection of items for customization out of everything I checked out online (for those who can't build a system on their own). The total cost comes out to around $1,900.

On the cooler: I opted for the liquid cooler because I read quite a bit of good things about it. They offer Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus as an alternative. Would that make much of a difference? I got the impression that the cooler I chose is actually better.

boiler1990, I don't really have the option of changing the CPU, although I actually prefer the 2600k, because I intend to use the PC for things other than gaming for which the 2600k seems a better option.

Do you guys share Kai-Fei's reservations about the motherboard? I've contacted the builders and they said there are no compatibility issues or anything, so I'm not quite sure whether I should request any changes to the system from them before they build it.

I'm not very good at the technical stuff beyond the basics, so my apologies if I'm asking any stupid questions. I basically tried to come up with a solid and reliable system for gaming for the next few years, so I don't have to spend time having to constantly upgrade everything continuously.

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October 30, 2011 4:15:02 AM

I'm getting $1758 on ibuypower (z68 config) and that's with $75 shipping. Could you buy the parts yourself and have them put it together? That would save a couple hundred more. The h60 can be found for $65, the 212+ is $25, the h60 is better than the 212+ by at most 10C. There's nothing wrong with that mobo.
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October 30, 2011 1:58:00 PM

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On the cooler: I opted for the liquid cooler because I read quite a bit of good things about it. They offer Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus as an alternative. Would that make much of a difference? I got the impression that the cooler I chose is actually better.

The Hyper 212+ will do a better job than the H60. The H60 was one of the first generation all-in-one liquid coolers and didn't perform very well. I've owned 2 212+s and was never disappointed.

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boiler1990, I don't really have the option of changing the CPU, although I actually prefer the 2600k, because I intend to use the PC for things other than gaming for which the 2600k seems a better option.

Unless you're going to be doing hours and hours of HD Video and photo work, you're throwing $100 down the drain by buying that 2600K. I find it hard to believe the guy won't swap CPUs...

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Do you guys share Kai-Fei's reservations about the motherboard? I've contacted the builders and they said there are no compatibility issues or anything, so I'm not quite sure whether I should request any changes to the system from them before they build it.

It's not necessarily a bad board, it's just old. I also don't know if it's a B3 revision.

What is concerning is that you're not getting a great board for the price you're paying for this system.


I agree with k1114 - this system is a bit too pricey IMHO. You could save more by building your own system (it's not as hard as you think), or buying from CyberPower/iBuyPower.
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October 30, 2011 7:51:28 PM

Thanks again guys!

I live in Canada, so I'm not sure CyberPower/iBuyPower are the way to go; from what I can see, I'd be paying $250-300 in duties and taxes on top of the price, which more than undoes any cost advantage. I guess I could try it via newegg.ca or other local vendors, but I'm really not keen on setting up the system on my own; I'm just not there yet atm. The computer still falls below my $2k budget limit, and I figure with the warranty and service, it's worth it.

But on the motherboard/cooler, what if I change the cooler to the Cooler Master Hyper 212 and the motherboard to ASUS P8Z68-V? Would that improve the system substantially? There's also the option of a Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD4-B3, just $3 more. Would that be better?
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October 31, 2011 12:22:52 AM

Setting up your own system? That's what the local pc shops are for, any pc shop should do it. But it is really easy; easier than a kids puzzle. Warranties are still through the part manufacturers.

You won't be doing much OCing anyway so the 212+ will suffice. There's really no difference in those 2 mobos other than the z68 can use the integrated graphics. If the price is the same I'd take the z68.

You can tell us the site, it's not advertising, just like all the other companies you're naming. They seem overpriced anyways.
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October 31, 2011 1:00:50 AM

This guy only has MicroATX boards and he's charging you that much? That bothers me...
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October 31, 2011 1:14:39 AM

??? Look again boiler.

The ram is 1.65v so I would suggest going with 2x4gb corsair. Go with the 212+ and asus z68-v. You could also change the case to a haf 922 or cm 690.

You could try and call them to see if they will still give you support if you just give them all the parts.
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October 31, 2011 1:37:52 AM

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??? Look again boiler.

LOL Didn't see the scroll bar :/ 

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The ram is 1.65v so I would suggest going with 2x4gb corsair. Go with the 212+ and asus z68-v. You could also change the case to a haf 922 or cm 690.

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