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October 29, 2011 8:06:13 PM

Hey guys, I'm going to be doing my first build and I wanted to make sure I do it right. I'm not so up-to-date with the newest hardware, but I was recommended this build. My budget is $700-$900 USD, and I'm going to be using my system for graphics editing, a bit of video editing, and probably some gaming.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103995
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157281
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231315
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233&Tpk=haf912
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125401
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371048
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Keyboard, mouse, speakers are taken care of. Please recommend me a good monitor too, but don't need to factor that into the price, I plan on purchasing that a bit later. No brand preference.

Is there anything you guys would change? Anything I'm forgetting? Thanks for your help!

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October 29, 2011 8:23:37 PM

Are you Overclocking any hardware at all?
October 29, 2011 8:25:06 PM

No overclocking
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October 29, 2011 9:27:17 PM

Does anyone have any input?
October 29, 2011 9:31:05 PM

Suggest ya add component names instead of just links.

October 29, 2011 9:33:05 PM

Amd? Seriously? And 16gb ram?
Ok my friend, since no OC i am gonna go budget extreme on you!
Mobo - Gigabyte z68 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU - i3 2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Ram - Geil 8giga http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU - 6950 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - OCZ 600 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD - Seagate Barracuda 750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case - Gamma classic http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Any dvd-r will do. Budget and nice monitors are asus.

Price?

Grand Total:* $675.93
October 29, 2011 9:38:56 PM

Thanks for you input! Anything particularly wrong with AMD?
October 29, 2011 9:43:03 PM

hey vx53c
if you are going with extreme budget with no overclock then a h67 board will do
ASRock H67M (B3) for $80 and save $25 over z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

that said if you do a lot of video coding then a i5 is a better match just for the added performance of 4 physical core instead of 4 thread in 2 core as in i3.
i5 2500 is mighty good, for $200, or i5 2400. They goes with h67 board,
or better get i5 2500k and a p67 or z68board and overclock a bit. also better quicksync if you ever needs them.

there is nothing wrong with AMD at low budget range, just that Intel got superior performance when it comes to anything CPU heavy when you move to a mid performance range.
October 29, 2011 9:54:20 PM

vlcmdude said:
Thanks for you input! Anything particularly wrong with AMD?

ATM amd offers much less horsepower than intel
That being said, p67 or z68 for possible future upgrade to i5.
i5 2400 is a good choice for no overclocking but i thought i would give you a budget build with prospects of upgrading along the way.

zhihao50 i agree with you, but h67 seems so forbiding.
With just changing the cpu and getting an aftermarket cooler that will clear the long headers of geil (even a tx3 will do with push-pull) our friend here will get twice the horsepower for a good bargain.
I am a fan of future-proofing
October 29, 2011 10:13:31 PM

I don't think I'll end up upgrading after I'm done with the build. I just doubt I'll have the interest when the time comes. The i5 2500 sounds like a good idea. Thanks a lot for your help guys.
October 29, 2011 10:17:38 PM

if you wont overclock you wont need the 2500K (notice the K, big difference) and the stepping between 2500 and 2400 is non existent so best bang for buck is the i5 2400 (doesn't need aftermarket cooler unless you are in a tropic climate)
October 29, 2011 10:25:52 PM

"I don't think I'll end up upgrading after I'm done with the build. I just doubt I'll have the interest when the time comes." You are at Tom's - we all (most) are fans of extra performance for just a little bit more $$. I say get a mobo & CPU & cooler that you can overclock - you won't be disappointed - we'll help you. You may just find a new hobby with the benefit of having a very good computer.
-Bruce
October 29, 2011 10:29:00 PM

dish_moose said:
"I don't think I'll end up upgrading after I'm done with the build. I just doubt I'll have the interest when the time comes." You are at Tom's - we all (most) are fans of extra performance for just a little bit more $$. I say get a mobo & CPU & cooler that you can overclock - you won't be disappointed - we'll help you. You may just find a new hobby with the benefit of having a very good computer.
-Bruce

:lol: 
yeah and have your gf look at you sideways
October 29, 2011 10:40:44 PM

dish_moose said:
"I don't think I'll end up upgrading after I'm done with the build. I just doubt I'll have the interest when the time comes." You are at Tom's - we all (most) are fans of extra performance for just a little bit more $$. I say get a mobo & CPU & cooler that you can overclock - you won't be disappointed - we'll help you. You may just find a new hobby with the benefit of having a very good computer.
-Bruce

Haha. I wouldn't know where to start. So what parts would I want if i were to overclock? i5 2500K...
October 29, 2011 10:52:13 PM

vlcmdude said:
Haha. I wouldn't know where to start. So what parts would I want if i were to overclock?


Recommended for OC'ing:

- Unlocked Intel SB processor, just about any AMD processor
- A motherboard that has a BIOS for OC'ing (or a UEFI Windows-based BIOS)
- An aftermarket cooler (the ones Intel includes are junk)

That's about it. You'll probably wind up paying a bit more for a motherboard and CPU but that's about it.
October 29, 2011 11:19:06 PM

It'd be really appreciated if someone could suggest some specific parts. And maybe direct me somewhere for more info on overclocking.
October 30, 2011 12:29:38 AM

g-unit1111 said:
Recommended for OC'ing:

- Unlocked Intel SB processor, just about any AMD processor
- A motherboard that has a BIOS for OC'ing (or a UEFI Windows-based BIOS)
- An aftermarket cooler (the ones Intel includes are junk)

That's about it. You'll probably wind up paying a bit more for a motherboard and CPU but that's about it.

Intel's stock heatsink are not junk, you can push the 2400 to 4GHz which it can coo land is the max that 2400 can reach...
October 30, 2011 1:03:17 AM

legendkiller said:
Intel's stock heatsink are not junk, you can push the 2400 to 4GHz which it can coo land is the max that 2400 can reach...


Really? I thought the 2400 couldn't be overclocked.

But when I got my first fan I had the stock heat sink break in like 3 pieces.
October 30, 2011 1:24:59 AM

Tell us how much you want to spend - we'll pick some parts for ya.
-Bruce
EDIT _ I see - $900 max
Your build doesn't look that bad - I would think about i5-2500K & a P67 or Z68 mobo. You could do with 8GB ram
Once you decide on specific hardware - we can find you a guide for that mobo.
October 30, 2011 2:23:52 AM

g-unit1111 said:
Really? I thought the 2400 couldn't be overclocked.

But when I got my first fan I had the stock heat sink break in like 3 pieces.

Im not even sure if it can but some people said it can be OC to 4GHz or less max but i think it's just turbo and/or raise BCLK to 103 or a bit higher than turbo kicks in(Im not sure if it's like that but OCing with an locked means BCLK OC)... Wonder why a stock heatsink can handle a 2600k at 3.8/3.9GHz(with turbo)? Stock heatsink are made for it purpose, not for overclocking... Overclocking involves in more heat, intel made it so that people would buy new heatsink(To waste money when Overclocking) as the stock is free and comes with the processor... Stock Intel Heat Sink is meant for it clock, not for higher clock, any higher is for aftermarket heat sink...
October 30, 2011 3:09:23 AM

You can set higher turbo states with a 2400 but the Ks are more flexible.

vlcmdude, I'd suggest:
2500K
inexpensive Z68 (any of the various Gigabyte Z68 D3s or UD3s are probably a safe bet)
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 + (make sure it's a + or an Evo, not the original 212)

If you're not doing a heap of gaming the 6950 might be overkill (I say that having bought two of them). A 6850 might be a better compromise between performance and cost.
October 30, 2011 7:26:16 PM

All great info, thanks a bunch guys. I hear its cheaper and less of a hassle to buy at Frys than order online. Any thoughts?

And can someone point me in the direction of some good info on OCing?
October 30, 2011 7:38:41 PM

I have seen many people on the forum suggesting the hyper 212 never forgetting to mention to get evo not the regular. They got 1degree difference in performance. CM hyper 212 is just mediocre and cheap heatsink.
Pay the extra 8$ and get a real man's heatsink, the Corsair A70 that comes with 2 120fans, a top notch thermal paste, installs easily and cools for 8degrees less than the CM hyper 212. It also is less noisy.
Also the guy says he wants to go 2500k and i see people pointing him at core unlocking northbridges. heh. Overclocking 2400 with stock sinks? Let the OP have a go at the 2500k, easy OC. After some time perhaps we can talk about OC locked multipliers and unlocking dormant cores. :p 
October 31, 2011 8:05:13 PM
October 31, 2011 8:37:24 PM

the 6850 is kind of a reference card. Not very powerful.
the ram while being great it is high profile so if you are gonna install an aftermarket cooler it is no good. Go for low profile for this setup.
Up your ups by 50watts to be on the safe side since you are overclocking
October 31, 2011 9:04:43 PM

I have a 5 year old alienware case, would that work?
November 1, 2011 11:30:02 PM

Any answers to the above questions?
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