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October 31, 2011 9:42:40 AM

Hi there, over the last week or so, I am debating on what my first build should be.

I have hand picked a list of what I want first but would like some opinions.

This is what I have so far:

Case- http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

MoBo- http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

CPU- http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

CPU cooler- http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

GPU (x2 in SLI)- http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

PSU- http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

SSD 1 (OS and applications)- http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

SSD 2 (Store my games, I don't have a lot of games)- http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

RAM- http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

Optical drive- http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

Fan 120mm (x1)- http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

Fan 140mm (x2)- http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

Fan 180mm (x3)- http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

Fan controller- http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

Sub-total cost=$2351 AUD
Total cost including shipping and protection=$2541 AUD

Questions:

1)Is the PSU enough?

2)What fans would be a better choice for the 180mm? The fans pre-installed Vs the aftermarket ones I selected?

3)What would you change?

4)What would be the best GPU setup for this price? Single 580 knowing I wouldn't SLI in the future?

5)Is this a good first build :D 

Thanks!



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October 31, 2011 10:18:14 AM

Did you just pick the most expensive stuff you found in the store?
Ok let's go starting from the top...

What do you need this rig for? I take it is for gaming based on the choices.. or so i think because you are sending me massively mixed signals.

Your case is fancy, expensive as hell and cramped. 90degrees rotations and oooh bother. Any Cooler Master Haf will make you happy, your computer too, and you can put 2 monster gfx cards in there instead of puny 560ti's

The psu is enough but there is no reason to pay all that. A quality 1000watt (for the huge gfx cards i am about to propose) is enough.

Motherboard 12+6 power phases.. wow and 6sata3 5usb3. Great. You are not going to use more than 2 of each of these things.
Practically the same motherboard without the fancy explosions and confetti: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

2 ssd? *blinks* Ok, if you want to spend your cash on big ssd get a crucial m4 256. I like big ssds :D 
Also get a WD caviar black/Seagate Barracuda 7200.12/Samsung F3. Any of the mentioned at the cheapest gb per $. Sata 2 or sata3 don't matter.

Ram... if you can physically tell the difference in performance between c8 and c9 then you are superhuman. Get a c9, low profile memory, the ripsaws won't clear your cooling solution

Heatsink. Yeah that heatsink looks radical. Sprays the mosfets and all heehee. Awesome!
For an amazing price get the Corsair A70, your i5 2500k will love it! Want more performance and less noise? Xigmatek Aegir.

It is time for the gfx cards :D  :D 
With all the hundreds of moneys i just shaved off your system we got:
2X http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... rawr.

Gaming performance of your setup vs mine is a Nissan Focus vs a Ferrari
I didn't have time to do the math so i let you do it and tell me how much money difference we ended up with :D 
October 31, 2011 10:43:13 AM

vx53c said:
Did you just pick the most expensive stuff you found in the store?
Ok let's go starting from the top...

What do you need this rig for? I take it is for gaming based on the choices.. or so i think because you are sending me massively mixed signals.

Your case is fancy, expensive as hell and cramped. 90degrees rotations and oooh bother. Any Cooler Master Haf will make you happy, your computer too, and you can put 2 monster gfx cards in there instead of puny 560ti's

The psu is enough but there is no reason to pay all that. A quality 1000watt (for the huge gfx cards i am about to propose) is enough.

Motherboard 12+6 power phases.. wow and 6sata3 5usb3. Great. You are not going to use more than 2 of each of these things.
Practically the same motherboard without the fancy explosions and confetti: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

2 ssd? *blinks* Ok, if you want to spend your cash on big ssd get a crucial m4 256. I like big ssds :D 
Also get a WD caviar black/Seagate Barracuda 7200.12/Samsung F3. Any of the mentioned at the cheapest gb per $. Sata 2 or sata3 don't matter.

Ram... if you can physically tell the difference in performance between c8 and c9 then you are superhuman. Get a c9, low profile memory, the ripsaws won't clear your cooling solution

Heatsink. Yeah that heatsink looks radical. Sprays the mosfets and all heehee. Awesome!
For an amazing price get the Corsair A70, your i5 2500k will love it! Want more performance and less noise? Xigmatek Aegir.

It is time for the gfx cards :D  :D 
With all the hundreds of moneys i just shaved off your system we got:
2X http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... rawr.

Gaming performance of your setup vs mine is a Nissan Focus vs a Ferrari
I didn't have time to do the math so i let you do it and tell me how much money difference we ended up with :D 

I don't know about your choices. 2x 6970's, really? I could get 2x 6950's and unlock them to 6970's. Also I like to have separate storage to make things less cluttered. Also, I have heard great things about the motherboard that I have selected and I goes well with the colour theme of my build.

As for the case, CoolerMaster cases are made out of cheap plastic, the front I/O looks unclean and everyone has one! I would rather a nice steel and aluminium case that looks nice on a desk rather than something rigid. Why would I get a larger PSU if I wont use it? Thats like buying a chocolate bar when you are full and only eating half of it, this goes for my storage as well.

As for the CPU cooler I don't trust water in my case since it's my first time building, and the H70 isn't even listed on www.pccasegear.com The Prolimatech Genesis has had great reviews everywhere I look and also cools the RAM. You said that the RAM will hit the CPU cooler? I have read a review that said you can install RAM without removing the CPU cooler which is a plus and that it has around 2cm headroom under the cooler with normal RAM, the heatsink on ther ripjaws couldn't possibly be 2cm.

Thanks for the suggestions though :) 
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October 31, 2011 12:13:51 PM

Anyone else have any advice?

Thanks.
October 31, 2011 1:10:14 PM

Don't listen them its pretty good.
October 31, 2011 2:11:26 PM

the 6970 CF performance gain over the 6950 CF setup is only 10-15%
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/299?vs=298
A 10% OC on the 6950 setup using MSI AB will take care of the performance gap easily, but even on the most demanding games you won't need to OC with CF 6950s. If I were to start a new build from scratch, the raven rv-02 (or 03) would be my case:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... (02)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i... (03)
The internal setup is comparable, but the outside is looks more than a black box of the fortress at 70-90 AUS less.
As for SSDs, the crucial C300 or the m4 series use marvell as opposed to sandforce (ocz, intel, corsair). the sandforce driven ssd's are faster but have been prone to BSODs, though this may have been fixed with the latest firmware update. crucial's ssd's are more problem free since the last firmware update albeit the advertised read/write is ~20-25% slower.
do your research. IMO I'd opt for the CF 6950 setup (better than 560ti sli if you want to do a 3x monitor setup in the future), and a 240/256 gb ssd.

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October 31, 2011 2:23:33 PM
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i would suggest these changes-
i heard a lot about that case but i would suggest this one bcause of super performance for money.it is liquid cooling,high air flow,CLEAN cable management etc.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

motherboard is a bit OVERKILL.go with this one-
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
almost same features for less money.

i am using a Megahalems but still consider one as best cooler for the money.easy overclocks to 4~4.2ghz.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

it is clear that 560ti SLI is more powerful than a single 580 but i would suggest a sinlge or SLI 580 if budget allows.i am having a single msi lightning xtreme gtx 580 3 gb version.never seen any lagging thing.MSI is a good reliable brand IMO.
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

you may call it a overkill but two factory overclocked 580s,a overclocked 2500k,lots of fans and other stuff needs more than 850w.(850w is enough iguess but you can get a better PSU for only 10 more bucks so why not?????)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...
as far as quality and performance is the case,i am using this PSU and no problems,complaints,etc.very reliable and value for money product.

getting two different low capacity SSDs is not a good decision.instead get a single
good SSD for e.g. crucial m4 128gb(i am using it).
use it for OS and your "main" games.also include atleast a 500gb caviar black for data.(just a suggestion)
other things look good to me.
October 31, 2011 9:52:57 PM

Thanks for all the replys guys.

I really don't know if I should get a AMD or NVIDIA GPU? I like the idea of AMD CPU with AMD GPU and Intel CPU with NVIDIA GPU. A for the dual 6970s, I can't afford it and if I did plan on getting a 580, I would not SLI it.

So that leaves me to 2 560 Ti's vs 2 6950s. I have also heard that CoolerMaster don't make the best PSUs.

I have also really had my eye out for the case I picked because of the build quality and construction. I am also taking your advice on 1 large SSD but not 100% sure yet.

And yes, this build is for gaming.

Thanks!
November 1, 2011 3:05:38 AM

Anyone?

Thanks!
November 1, 2011 9:10:40 AM

get a i5-2500k / i7-2700k
2x580
asus z68 gen3
nice cooler , heatsink , required psu , case
get a big ssd or x2 and another hd(500gb)
this is the ultimate i would buy if i had that much money to blow.
i can guarantee that u can maxout any game at 1080p at avg 70 fps min in the most demanding games within 2 years
November 1, 2011 9:35:25 AM

helpy said:
get a i5-2500k / i7-2700k
2x580
asus z68 gen3
nice cooler , heatsink , required psu , case
get a big ssd or x2 and another hd(500gb)
this is the ultimate i would buy if i had that much money to blow.
i can guarantee that u can maxout any game at 1080p at avg 70 fps min in the most demanding games within 2 years

Because I can totally afford all this :??: 

I don't think this is in my budjet :/ 

Thanks anyway.
November 1, 2011 10:59:54 AM

this is a really good setup.all the prices are from your suggested site.


Thermaltake Black Chaser MK-I Full Tower
$165.00
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler
$39.00
Intel Core i5 2500K
$229.00
2xMSI GeForce GTX 580 Twin Frozr II Overclocked
$1138.00
Crucial M4 SSD 128GB
$239.00
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB WD5002AALX
$99.00
G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL (2x4GB) DDR3
$59.00
ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Motherboard
$189.00

OCZ Technology ZX Series 1000W Power Supply
$219.00
OR
Silverstone Strider 1000W Gold ST1000G
$229.00
LG CH12LS28 12X BD-R Blu-ray DVD Combo Drive
$69.00

includes every good component.i am very dissappointed to see people ruining the image coolermaster in terms of power supplies.
November 1, 2011 11:15:43 AM

hellfire24 said:
this is a really good setup.all the prices are from your suggested site.


Thermaltake Black Chaser MK-I Full Tower
$165.00
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler
$39.00
Intel Core i5 2500K
$229.00
2xMSI GeForce GTX 580 Twin Frozr II Overclocked
$1138.00
Crucial M4 SSD 128GB
$239.00
Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB WD5002AALX
$99.00
G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL (2x4GB) DDR3
$59.00
ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Motherboard
$189.00

OCZ Technology ZX Series 1000W Power Supply
$219.00
OR
Silverstone Strider 1000W Gold ST1000G
$229.00
LG CH12LS28 12X BD-R Blu-ray DVD Combo Drive
$69.00

includes every good component.i am very dissappointed to see people ruining the image coolermaster in terms of power supplies.

Hi there, you have been great help to me.

I believe that running 2x580's won't be necessary on a 24" monitor that I am going to use. I like to keep things as simple as possible. Thanks for the suggestions though.
November 1, 2011 11:15:59 AM

Best answer selected by appleshaq.
November 1, 2011 11:21:03 AM

thnk you SIR.
BTW what's your age if you don't mind??????
November 1, 2011 11:39:27 AM

hellfire24 said:
thnk you SIR.
BTW what's your age if you don't mind??????

14. Why?
November 1, 2011 11:45:07 AM

i am 15.
thnx.all the best for your build.
November 1, 2011 11:48:41 AM

hellfire24 said:
i am 15.
thnx.all the best for your build.

Cool! When did you start building computers? Also are you Australian? And could you link you build components?

Thanks!
November 1, 2011 2:08:44 PM

sorry to be late.i started building computers 1 year ago with my brother.He is 19.i am from canada.i share my rig with my brother.components are-
thermaltake armour+ full tower with aftermarket coolermaster sickflow and noctua fans.
Asus blue ray.
i7 2600k@4.0ghz.
asus maximus iv xtreme.
Corsair dominator 8gb RAM.
2xcaviar blacks in RAID0
128GB crucial m4 SSD.
Prolimatech Megahalems with coolermaster sickflows in push/pull.
1xMSI lightning Xtreme geforce gtx 580 3GB version.
coolermaster silent pro 1000w 80+GOLD PSU.
Asus 27in. Monitor.
Razor Lycosa Keyboard and deathadder mouse.

i think i am done!!
!