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October 31, 2011 7:24:46 PM

Hello All,

I had originally planned to do an upgrade, but after mulling it over came to the conclusion that a fresh rig would be required. I'd appreciate any opinions/advice/suggestions on the parts I have picked out below.

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Approximate Purchase Date: +/- 2-4 weeks


Budget Range: $3k to $3.5k Before Rebate

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Financial modeling, trading, statistical analysis


Parts Not Required: e.g.: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS


Country of Origin: U.S.


Parts Preferences: Few preferences. Will connect to 4 monitors at first (256MB per monitor min.), ability to upgrade to 6 total is good. 16GB RAM minimum, 2TB secondary drive, 150-300 SSD for OS and Primary Applications


Overclocking: No


SLI or Crossfire: Unfamiliar with this option, aside from the quick Google search I just did. Video cards are for work, not gaming so as long as monitor requirements are met, cheaper is better.


Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080


Additional Comments: No bling, quet is always good provided performance isn't compromised and price isn't materially more.


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COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Advanced RC-932-KKN5-GP
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Noctua NH-U12DX 1366 120mm SSO CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Intel Core i7-970 Gulftown 3.2GHz 6 x 256KB L2 Cache 12MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80613I7970
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


ASUS P6T7 WS Supercomputer "Ultimate Gamer" choose 3Way SLI + PhysX at Real X16 X58 CEB Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
**Just seemed like good value for the price**


*4X for a total of 16GB*
CORSAIR XMS3 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M1A1600C7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
**What is the max RAM I could in theory install on this setup? 24GB?


CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200 (CMPSU-1200AX) 1200W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Certified 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
**Figured a lot of power would be important**


G.SKILL Phoenix Pro Series FM-25S2S-240GBP2 2.5" 240GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


PNY VCQFX580-PCIE-PB Quadro FX 580 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 Workstation Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
**Two of these for use with 4x 22in W monitors**
***Given Mobo PCI availability.....could you use three of these for 6 monitors?***


Thanks for the help!
Cheers

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October 31, 2011 7:34:58 PM

I don't know about nVidia's enterprise lineup but on the consumer side AMD/ATI offers better multimonitor support with EyeFinity. You might want to look into that.

Get a i7-2600, it's better value for money. Get a more sensible motherboard, it seems you're just spending lots of money for the heck of it. If you have too much, you can send me some in the mail :p 

That PSU is ridiculous for your system. If you're planning on running it 24/7 then a gold rated PSU is reasonable, but that wattage is way beyond your system. Again, waste of money.
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October 31, 2011 7:55:40 PM

No - X58 is a good platform no question, but it's hardly the best value out there right now. A lot of what's in your proposed build is tremendous amounts of overkill for what you need it to do, business applications do NOT require a lot of horsepower - they're made for computers that use half the power and take up like no desk space, regardless of what people say. I wouldn't put as much money into the system itself as I would getting a quality Eyefinity setup. Even professional NVIDIA cards aren't multiple monitor friendly, and the highest end gaming cards use like two at most.

And a lot of power is not important - an Eyefinity setup will require some power hungry graphics cards, but you do not need an AX 1200. Also I need some clarification on what "no bling" means. :lol: 

Honestly you could get away with an i3-2100 or an i5-2400. This is what I'd suggest:

Case: Corsair Carbide 400R - $99.99
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKII 750W - $109.99
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3 - $149.99
CPU: 3.30GHz Intel Core i5-2400 - $199.99
Cooler: Corsiar A70 - $49.99
RAM: 16GB Corsair XMS 3 1333MHz RAM - $99.99
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $209.99
HD: Samsung EcoGreen F4 2TB - $149.99
Optical: LG CD/DVD Burner - $19.99
Video Card: 2 x Sapphire Radeon Flex 6850 HD - $149.99 each
OS: Windows 7 Professional - $139.99
Monitor: 6 x Asus VH243H 23.6" Widescreen HD Monitor - $189.99 each
Keyboard / Mouse: Logitech MK260 - $28.99

Total: $2690
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October 31, 2011 8:27:16 PM

If you are worried about mission critical stocks and bond trading with this computer then you will want a faster CPU in the i7 2600K or 2700K. These will get you better performance than the one that you picked out even though you got less cores, its all in the manufacturing process.

Nvidia is also a nice choice bur if you want 4-6 monitors you will want to look at the Eyefinity cards from AMD_ATI. One card can have up to 6 monitors.
Why are you looking to have 256 MB min for each of your monitors? That seems like a silly thing to do as the OS dictates how much each monitor recieves as it handles the process load for the screens. There is no way to tell the card that it can use 256 mb only memory.

If you went the way that you have above you may not have enough power for a third 580. These use a lot of power, and if you want to have a reliable product you should go for a minimum of a 80 gold PSU and probably go for a 80 Platinum PSU.

I would also look into getting 2 8GB sticks of memory, that way there is room for more if you need to put some in down the road. You probably wont need to but it is always nice to have room.
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October 31, 2011 9:09:25 PM

videogamerign said:
If you are worried about mission critical stocks and bond trading with this computer then you will want a faster CPU in the i7 2600K or 2700K. These will get you better performance than the one that you picked out even though you got less cores, its all in the manufacturing process.

Nvidia is also a nice choice bur if you want 4-6 monitors you will want to look at the Eyefinity cards from AMD_ATI. One card can have up to 6 monitors.
Why are you looking to have 256 MB min for each of your monitors? That seems like a silly thing to do as the OS dictates how much each monitor recieves as it handles the process load for the screens. There is no way to tell the card that it can use 256 mb only memory.

If you went the way that you have above you may not have enough power for a third 580. These use a lot of power, and if you want to have a reliable product you should go for a minimum of a 80 gold PSU and probably go for a 80 Platinum PSU.

I would also look into getting 2 8GB sticks of memory, that way there is room for more if you need to put some in down the road. You probably wont need to but it is always nice to have room.



Thank you all for the suggestions. This PC is trading stocks/forex and needs to be 100% so I'll be sure to get a Gold rated PSU per suggestions.

Market data and financial analytic software I'll be using requires 256mb/monitor (I have no idea why), and at minimum an i5 processor and preferably i7 - the last thing I want to do is get the i5 and then have their minimum specs updated with a software update or something. Unless I've misunderstood the great comments here, this seems like a good solution (parts replacing some of the above):

[2x] CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS P8P67 DELUXE (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

[2x] ATI 100-505605 FirePro V5800 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 CrossFire Supported Workstation Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
**Specs say up to 3 independent monitors, so two of these is much cheaper than the 6x display port 1-card option.

If I messed anything up or something thinks the above isn't good let me know. Thanks again for all the help.
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October 31, 2011 10:43:49 PM

Looks much, much better. Two things:

- Get the low-profile Vengeance RAM. The massive heat sinks on the standard Vengeance RAM make installing coolers - especially dual fan coolers - insanely difficult. This is the same thing with a much lower profile heat sink: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- The Fire Pros aren't bad if you insist on professional workstation cards. You can definitely get by with the consumer / gamer cards like the 6850.

And for this build you definitely want an efficient PSU, not more power. If you want PSU suggestions check some of these out:

- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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October 31, 2011 11:47:06 PM

OK, I believe I have it all figured out.
Changes to above:

Video Card (2x quantity)
ASUS EAH6870 DC/2DI2S/1GD5 Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
**This will allow up to four displays per card

Motherboard
ASUS MAXIMUS IV EXTREME (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

**The other Mobo wouldn't work with 2x 6870 video cards because each requires 2 PCI slots for a total of 4. Correct?


Rest of the components:

Case
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM (2x quantity)
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler Intel Core i7 compatible
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
*Don't care what it looks like...just want to be sure CPU is taken care of.

SSD Drive
Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Storage Drive
TBD

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Should be good unless I've missed something!
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November 1, 2011 12:13:05 AM

To enable Crossfire, both cards have to be installed on PCI-e x 2.0 slots (or equivalent). Most motherboards have this. The hardware will show up under devices, but in order to manipulate displays or anything like that you have to go through the ATI Catalyst software.

The V8 is a good choice for cooler, but it'll use a lot of energy. But you might want to look at the Corsair A70 - it's a much more efficient dual fan cooler. You could also check out a closed block loop like the H100 but I'm not sure the Antec 300 supports a dual fan radiator.
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November 1, 2011 12:20:28 AM

NickRomo said:
OK, I believe I have it all figured out.
Changes to above:

Video Card (2x quantity)
ASUS EAH6870 DC/2DI2S/1GD5 Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
**This will allow up to four displays per card

Motherboard
ASUS MAXIMUS IV EXTREME (REV 3.0) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

**The other Mobo wouldn't work with 2x 6870 video cards because each requires 2 PCI slots for a total of 4. Correct?


Rest of the components:

Case
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU
CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX850 (CMPSU-850AX) 850W ATX12V v2.31 / EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM (2x quantity)
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M1A1600C10
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler Intel Core i7 compatible
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
*Don't care what it looks like...just want to be sure CPU is taken care of.

SSD Drive
Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Storage Drive
TBD

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You are spending too much money on the motherboard, and that motherboard is meant for gaming and overclocking, hence the ROG/Republic of Gamers branding from ASUS. You can get away with getting this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 1, 2011 3:10:06 AM

Andriko_08 said:
You are spending too much money on the motherboard, and that motherboard is meant for gaming and overclocking, hence the ROG/Republic of Gamers branding from ASUS. You can get away with getting this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


There's like no USB or eSATA ports on that board, I'd go for something more like this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Or if you want to go for a budget board, I'd even recommend a standard Intel over anything else:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 1, 2011 3:02:26 PM

The ROG board is fine. Just because it says gaming and overclocking you'll find it has higher quality parts. Only problem I see is that motherboard is an extended ATX and your antec 300 case only supports "Mini-ITX, microATX, Standard ATX" meaning it's too big for that case.

So you can change to this ASRock Z68 PROFESSIONAL GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard for $280 and put it in that case.

COMPARED
ROG has 4 -6GB/s sata ports while the ASROCK has 6, both have dual lan support. ROG has bluetooth while ASROCK don't and the ROG has 8 usb 3.0 ports and the ASROCK only has 4. So if you need more usb connections it's a no brainer. But to counter that, The ASROCK has onboard video so during slow periods if your computer stills runs and you're not using all the monitors then the on die graphics kicks in and saves you some power and money. Also, if you ever have video problems you can pull both cards out and troubleshoot with the onboard.

Or you can go with this LIAN LI PC-A70F USB3.0 Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case for $170. It will fit the ASUS ROG board and help with the cooling.
The case is a very important consideration, especially when it comes to cooling. Your running 2 vid cards so you're going to want to remove as much of the heat as possible. This case will help you do that. But my choice would be to get the asrock board and the LIAN LI case. That way you have more room which helps with better cooling.
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November 2, 2011 8:01:02 PM

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