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Intel HD 2000 Vs nVidia GeForce 8400 GS.

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September 3, 2011 3:04:33 AM

Which one is faster and how much?

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September 3, 2011 3:48:24 AM

as you can see intel hd 2000 is a built in graphics...while 8400gs is external gpu....i recently had this gpu on my pentium 4....in which i cant able to play fifa 11 maxed out...but now i have core i5 2400 means intel hd graphics...now i can play fifa 11 maxed out...
the difference is hd 2000 is newer technology and a faster than 8400gs which is quite old...
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September 3, 2011 4:10:45 AM

bilalwaseem said:
as you can see intel hd 2000 is a built in graphics...while 8400gs is external gpu....i recently had this gpu on my pentium 4....in which i cant able to play fifa 11 maxed out...but now i have core i5 2400 means intel hd graphics...now i can play fifa 11 maxed out...
the difference is hd 2000 is newer technology and a faster than 8400gs which is quite old...


okay sir.

Actualy am planning to get a new pc this week-

i5 2400
2 GB DDR3 RAM

I am a very much addicted to gaming. I will get a Graphic card around next year, say Radeon HD 68xx or HD 69xx.

But before i get that card i want play old games with the Intel HD 2000 graphics which comes with the i5 2400.

By old game i meant GTA SAN ANDREAS. Its one of my most fav game. I want to play GTA San Andreas at 1600x900. I know this game doesnt support 16:9 res, so i will must patch it.

So, my question is.

1Q.Is GTA San Andreas playable at 1600x900 with fully maxed out settings?

2Q. How much FPS it achieves at 1600x900 with max settings?

I hope you will help me bro. Thanks.
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September 3, 2011 5:33:44 AM

haha...i am 14 yeals old mate...yeah i play gta san andreas maxed out and get around 25 fps with fraps and about 40without fps....i play crysis 2,bfbc2 and nfs hot pursuit 2010 and dirt 3 on 1920*1200 resolution on low settings...but nfs hot pursuit lag a bit...it is fine with 1600*900...
and go for 4gb ram..you will get better fps...
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September 3, 2011 6:02:58 AM

bilalwaseem said:
haha...i am 14 yeals old mate...yeah i play gta san andreas maxed out and get around 25 fps with fraps and about 40without fps....i play crysis 2,bfbc2 and nfs hot pursuit 2010 and dirt 3 on 1920*1200 resolution on low settings...but nfs hot pursuit lag a bit...it is fine with 1600*900...
and go for 4gb ram..you will get better fps...



You play GTA San Andreas Maxed out at what res?

Also, what processor and graphics you have?
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September 3, 2011 6:28:11 AM

1024*768....beause its the highest i can get...
core i5 2400
4gb ddr3 kingston
intel dh67cl mobo
intel hd 2000
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September 3, 2011 6:33:29 AM

bilalwaseem said:
1024*768....beause its the highest i can get...
core i5 2400
4gb ddr3 kingston
intel dh67cl mobo
intel hd 2000


but above u said you max it at 1600x900. :/ 
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September 3, 2011 6:35:28 AM

above i was talking about nfs hot pursuit mate:0
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September 3, 2011 6:41:29 AM

If you can play NFS at 1600x900 then why cant you play GTA SA at 1600x900??
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September 3, 2011 8:34:36 AM

rickytrux11 said:
If you can play NFS at 1600x900 then why cant you play GTA SA at 1600x900??

I used to own a old HP Pavilion with a pentium 4 and a 8400 GS and trust me the game ran great at near max with No AA at 1280X1024.Considering the intel hd is one tier above the 8400 and your fast CPU the game will run great at 1600X900.You may not be able to turn on AA.As far as hot pursuit 2010 goes forget max settings with that card.I own a i7 870 with a gtx 275 and with forced AA from the control panel and max settings I got about 40 fps at 1680X1050.You will have to lower settings in hot pursuit 2010.
BTW if you are planning to buy a GPU next year you should be aiming at the radeon 7000 series or gtx 600.
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September 3, 2011 8:41:24 AM

celpas said:
I used to own a old HP Pavilion with a pentium 4 and a 8400 GS and trust me the game ran great at near max with No AA at 1280X1024.Considering the intel hd is one tier above the 8400 and your fast CPU the game will run great at 1600X900.You may not be able to turn on AA.As far as hot pursuit 2010 goes forget max settings with that card.I own a i7 870 with a gtx 275 and with forced AA from the control panel and max settings I got about 40 fps at 1680X1050.You will have to lower settings in hot pursuit 2010.
BTW if you are planning to buy a GPU next year you should be aiming at the radeon 7000 series or gtx 600.


I see. But i have no intention to play NFSs. I just want to play GTA SA at 1600x900.
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September 3, 2011 9:20:08 AM

rickytrux11 said:
If you can play NFS at 1600x900 then why cant you play GTA SA at 1600x900??

because i played the gta on my old monior....1a week ago i just got a new led monitor...
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September 3, 2011 9:25:20 AM

I would suggest you to consider buying i5-2500K instead, it has HD 3000 core, which is better than the HD 2000 one. I have not tried the games you say you want to play, but on this notebook with HD 3000 (and HD 6770M). Even the HD 3000 is able to play TF2/L4D2/EEII with reasonable frame-rates.
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September 3, 2011 9:34:36 AM

For OC i5 is better, and i wont OC. Here i5 2400 and 2500k differs by about $35. With that $35 i can get a HD 5450 here. So no point of i5 2500k.
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September 3, 2011 9:36:38 AM

bilalwaseem said:
because i played the gta on my old monior....1a week ago i just got a new led monitor...


If you dont mind.Can you please tell me the FPS at 1600x900?
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September 3, 2011 9:43:06 AM

rickytrux11 said:
If you dont mind.Can you please tell me the FPS at 1600x900?

of nfs hot pursuit ???
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September 3, 2011 9:46:08 AM

bilalwaseem said:
of nfs hot pursuit ???


No, GTA San Andreas at 1600x900.
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September 3, 2011 10:03:50 AM

rickytrux11 said:
No, GTA San Andreas at 1600x900.

i said i played gta at 1024*768 on maximum settings and got around 30_40 fps easily...and oh you can see my youtube channel where i have uploaded videos of few games at intel hd
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September 3, 2011 10:13:32 AM

Whats ur channel? And i asked if u can play the gta sa at 1600x90
and tell me the FPS.
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September 3, 2011 10:35:23 AM

rickytrux11 said:
Whats ur channel? And i asked if u can play the gta sa at 1600x90
and tell me the FPS.

i have told u man i havent played it on 1600*900 because i had the 17 inch monitor and 1 wek ago i got the 20 inch one...i played gta on 1024*768 and get around 20-40 fps...billubadshah96 is my username...
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September 3, 2011 10:44:29 AM

rickytrux11 said:
Whats ur channel? And i asked if u can play the gta sa at 1600x90
and tell me the FPS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmQDi76eauo
According to this the intel gma hd which is weaker than the intel hd 2000 gets average of nearly 45 fps at 1280X720 on max.Your card is nearly 25% more powerful so you can run the game on max at 1600X900
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September 3, 2011 10:54:25 AM

Celpas@ thanks, but are you sure?


Bilalwaseem@ I asked you something else.
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September 3, 2011 11:05:58 AM

rickytrux11 said:
Celpas@ thanks, but are you sure?


Bilalwaseem@ I asked you something else.

what you asked???
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September 3, 2011 11:08:06 AM

man man man.....i am telling that when i played gta san andreas a month ago i have the 17 inch monitor...so i cant get 1600*900 resolution in that monitor...it was also very weak in pplaying games...so then i upgraded to 20 inch monitor now i play games at 1600*900 and 1920 *1200....
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September 3, 2011 11:09:25 AM

I requested you to play GTA San Andreas at 1600x900, to know if it is playble with max settings.
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September 3, 2011 11:14:09 AM

rickytrux11 said:
I requested you to play GTA San Andreas at 1600x900, to know if it is playble with max settings.

oh...i have just deleted the game...ok i will download it again and show you how it worked...but it will take some time because i am from pakistan so the internet is slow and takes time to download...but i will show you surely...but nothing to worry about because you can play it with max settings..
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September 3, 2011 11:18:19 AM

bilalwaseem said:
oh...i have just deleted the game...ok i will download it again and show you how it worked...but it will take some time because i am from pakistan so the internet is slow and takes time to download...but i will show you surely...but nothing to worry about because you can play it with max settings..


okay thanks. But if you have already deleted the game then dont have to download it again.
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September 3, 2011 11:20:15 AM

rickytrux11 said:
okay thanks. But if you have already deleted the game then dont have to download it again.

ok....you can see gta san andreas on intel hd on some other videos.....i am sure like mine....you will play without any problems
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September 3, 2011 11:26:33 AM

bilalwaseem said:
ok....you can see gta san andreas on intel hd on some other videos.....i am sure like mine....you will play without any problems



Unfortunately i have gone through many vids but could not find GTA SA at 1600x900.
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September 3, 2011 11:52:33 AM

rickytrux11 said:
Unfortunately i have gone through many vids but could not find GTA SA at 1600x900.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rycYJQS907M&feature=rela...
this is just a deduction but as you can see in gta 4 with intel hd graphics he an get about 20 fps without fraps.considering how much more demanding gta 4 is than san andreas you should be pretty much comforrtable. Remember I have completed gta san andreas with a 8400 GS and at 1280X1024 at extreme max with AA it was slightly laggy.You should be able to run gta san andreas at 1600X900 with no AA and medium draw distance.seriously why are you even aiming to max it out.The game has cartoonish graphics even on max so will low settings even matter that much?
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September 3, 2011 12:01:31 PM

I just found a good video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCtI-CX-9ns&feature=rela...
he is playing at 1440X900 with a 8400 GS and at max settings.He has turned on frame limiter in the game options which limits fps to 30.Considering that your card is one tier above his you will get exactly the same performance he is getting at 1600X900.
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September 3, 2011 1:10:22 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-performance-...

everyone is just posting vids from youtube. please people, post back with benchmarked results(you can find them more faster than youtube videos)

speaking of which, the link I've posted above is a chart, identify the GPU's in question and see where they lie.

Personally, you can game on an intel HD2000/3000 chip but don't expect your eyes to water because of seeing really awesome special effects.

I built a rig for a pal, an HTPC rig with these;
ECS H67H2-M
intel i3-2100 @ stock
4GB kingston DDR3 1333MHz
2TB Samsung HD204UI HDD
Thermaltake Toughpower 600W PSU

and he was able to play FIFA 11 and PES 11 with the settings set to medium. But he was disappointed with the results...I told him to invest in a discrete card(one which is ofcourse higher than the iGPU) and he can then call it a gaming(mid-high end) HTPC build.

P.S; game developers spend a good amount of time to bump up details on games - exclude MW3 :lol:  so a discrete GPU is worth it...one which is 3 tiers higher ofcourse.

hope this helps.
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September 3, 2011 2:18:52 PM

Celpas@ very helpful vids.

Lutfit@ if you read my 2nd reply, u will find that i will get a hd 69xx after few months. But i want to game with intel hd 2000 befor i get the card. And in that chart given by you, there is no intel HD 2000.
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September 3, 2011 2:53:11 PM

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And in that chart given by you, there is no intel HD 2000.
there is, look down the lower third of the chart and on your right under the Intel column.

I'll say it again, don't expect much from the 2000/3000 iGPU. But as a temporary solution, you could play older titles on low settings or res's. Either way the iGPU gets the job done.
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September 4, 2011 3:05:55 AM

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September 4, 2011 9:23:40 AM

ricky, as requested, thread closed.
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