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$2250 Build - Help me get some longevity!

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November 1, 2011 4:12:24 PM

I would like to say first and foremost "Thank You" to anyone who reads/responds to this thread. I have probably spent 50-60 hours researching this and thought i would put it up here for a review. So lets get to the meat of this this thread!

Current Computer: Intel 8400 w/ 4850 AMD, 4GB Ram, 350G Hard drive, 22" Asus Monitor at 1920x1080

New Build Usage: Primarily to play the following games:

Battlefield 3
Starcraft 2
Diablo 3
World of Warcraft

(I play 99% of the time online with friends. Not much of a solo gamer)

As you can see i am a blizzard fan and really only play the Battlefield series when it comes to first person shooters:

Budget: $2250-2500

Requirements:
-120hz Gaming Monitor (want to be over or close to 120 fps)
-120hz capable Graphics Card (want to be over or close to 120 fps)
-HIGH FPS in games! (I will be running the games at 1920x1080 and prefer high frame rates over shiney objects, could care less about shadows etc.)
-I want something to last me about 4-5 years. I will be starting a family by then and can imagine my playtime will dimish somewhat. Want to live it up while I can!


Current Build Specifications:

Processor:
Intel - i7 2600K

Fan System:
Cooler Master Hyper N 520 RR-920-N520-GP 92mm

Motherboard:
Asus P8Z68 Deluxe LGA 1155 Intel Z68 Sata 6Gb/s

SSD:
Intel 510 Series 128GB

HDD:
Havent researched much here yet but assume a 1TB Caviar

Ram:
GSkill Ripjaws X Series (2) - 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240 Pin (Total of 16GB)

Monitor:
Samsung S23A750D Black 23" Full HD 3D LED Backlight LCD Monitor

Graphics Card:
Still on the fence between the GTX 590 and the HD 6990. Reviews seems to go either way for both cards, however the Tom's review of the 6990 showed about a 20% better performance over the 590 when set to high graphics at 1920x1080. My main concern hear is keeping all of my games about 60fps to take advantage of the 120hz monitor. I know there is a constant debate over if you can really see it or not but im convinced I can after looking at some side by side monitors so im ready to enjoy that benefit. In addition as stated above id like to keep this machine plugging along strong (again well over 60fps for games for the next 4-5 years so i would consider running SLI or X-fire with a matching 590 or 6990 to make that happen).

Case:
Still researching. Need something with a lot of airflow and fans. We can exclude this from the budget number at this time.

Power Supply:
Corsair 1200 watt

Questions on my mind (maybe you can answer!)
1.) Are there any bottlenecks in the system?
2.) Would this be a 4-5 year build where i can play all blizzard games plus battlefield series at well over 60 fps?
3.) Is it worth waiting for Ivy Bridge to release?
4.) Is it worth waiting for the 600 or 7000 series cards to release? (Not sure if Direct X 12 is around the corner or not)

I plan on building this system in less than 30 days.


Thanks again to anyone who provides feedback. I do appreciate your opinions and expertise.

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November 1, 2011 5:42:53 PM

Jrakon said:

Questions on my mind (maybe you can answer!)
1.) Are there any bottlenecks in the system?
2.) Would this be a 4-5 year build where i can play all blizzard games plus battlefield series at well over 60 fps?
3.) Is it worth waiting for Ivy Bridge to release?
4.) Is it worth waiting for the 600 or 7000 series cards to release? (Not sure if Direct X 12 is around the corner or not)


1. The 1200 watt PSU is massive overkill - a 750 or 900 will do just fine with plenty of room for OC'ing and SLI/Crossfire. I'd highly recommend reading the article on here about choosing the right PSU for your system.

The monitor you've selected is also massive overkill. The refresh rate on your monitor is not going to make that much of a difference between what your FPS rate is going to be on your system. If you have to have 3-D that's one thing but really save the $200 and invest in a Crossfire or SLI setup. And the thing is that 3-D is still new technology - there's not a lot of hardware or software out there that supports it yet.

The motherboard that I've chosen is one of the easiest on the market for OC'ing.

2. Absolutely.
3. Yes and no. Ivy Bridge will be a huge improvement over current architecture, but the thing I keep telling people is that if you wait you'll be stuck behind with 5 year old hardware with people yelling at you to get off the server. What's out there now is pretty damn good, it'll last you years to come if you buy SB or IB, it doesn't matter.
4. Not really. The 500s and 6000s are also amazing cards, the next generation is going to be a dramatic improvement - but it'll be a while for the software to catch up with the new hardware, you'll be safe. The biggest difference between getting a NVIDIA card over an ATI/AMD card is whether or not you'll be using the card for 2+ displays. It's very difficult setting up multiple displays on an NVIDIA card where it's not using Eyefinity, that's the biggest difference.

Try this configuration:

Case: Corsair Carbide 400R - $99.99
PSU: Seasonic X850 Gold - $210.99
Motherboard: EVGA P67 FTW - $269.99
CPU: 3.40GHz Intel Core i7-2600K - $314.99
Cooler: Corsair H100 - $119.99
RAM: 16GB Corsair Vengeance (4 x 4GB) 1600MHz 1.5V - $137.99 (68.99 each)
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $209.99
HD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB - $149.99
Optical: G Black Super Multi - $74.99
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 6950 2GB - $269.99 (add two for Crossfire mode)
OS: Windows 7 Pro - $139.99
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.6" 1080p - $179.99
Keyboard / Mouse: Logitech MK260 - $28.99

Total: $2270
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November 1, 2011 6:28:48 PM

Thanks for the info! Ill review your links when i get home.
Anyone else have any comments?
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November 1, 2011 6:53:22 PM

Nice post by g-unit, though I would drop the memory down to a single dual channel kit (2x4GB) since unless you are doing some intense multitasking, and you will not be when gaming, you will never touch 8GB of RAM.

Also I would go with a 6970 rather than the 6950.
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November 1, 2011 7:00:52 PM

dalmvern said:
Nice post by g-unit, though I would drop the memory down to a single dual channel kit (2x4GB) since unless you are doing some intense multitasking, and you will not be when gaming, you will never touch 8GB of RAM.

Also I would go with a 6970 rather than the 6950.


I was trying to make a build using dual 6950's in Crossfire but that would go way over budget by about $250. :lol: 

I'd also highly recommend reading this article about PSUs:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-psu-re...
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November 1, 2011 7:07:30 PM

Yeah i hear you on the ram. I just want to make sure in 2015-16 im still running smooth and not bottlenecking. After that the kid will be coming along so ill be doing budget builds from there on out. Gotta get it while you can!
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November 1, 2011 7:08:47 PM

nice build by g unit i just feel you could shave a good amount off the price...

HDD- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - 79.99

PSU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -129.99

and as you are just gaming i see no need for an 80$ optical drive a simple 20$ one will work just fine...

I personally have the spinpoint and couldn't be happier

I have the 1000W version of the cougar psu and also couldn't complain and the price atm is great

and +1 on 8g of ram

but thats just my 2 cents if you like use all the saved money on your 6990 if you wish
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November 1, 2011 7:44:57 PM

Yeah thats true. My mouth just waters at the 6990 bench on BF3. Avg 120 at 1920x1080 on high settings. I want to keep the frames
Between 90-120 all the time if i can help it
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November 1, 2011 8:01:07 PM

mtech23 said:
nice build by g unit i just feel you could shave a good amount off the price...

HDD- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - 79.99

PSU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -129.99

and as you are just gaming i see no need for an 80$ optical drive a simple 20$ one will work just fine...

I personally have the spinpoint and couldn't be happier


I have a Spinpoint too but they're getting really hard to come by right now as I've heard that Samsung sold off its' HD division to Seagate.

And that is definitely a nice PSU for the price but I think for this build I'd go for a Gold or Silver certified PSU to ensure longevity.
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November 1, 2011 9:44:09 PM

g-unit1111 said:
I have a Spinpoint too but they're getting really hard to come by right now as I've heard that Samsung sold off its' HD division to Seagate.

And that is definitely a nice PSU for the price but I think for this build I'd go for a Gold or Silver certified PSU to ensure longevity.


couldn't agree more regarding spinpoint, I finished my brothers build 2 weeks ago and paid 60$ for a spinpoint f3 1TB and now there 80+ and raising if at all in stock

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -139.99 My mistake i sent the wrong link This is the 850w version of the one I have certified silver.
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November 1, 2011 11:27:41 PM

590 and 6990 are dogs in CF or SLI

Case - $ 290 - Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
Case Fan - $ 12 - Thermaltake Blue120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $ 150 - Corsair HX850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $ 200 - ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU - $ 215 - Intel Core i5-2500K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler - $ 83 - Thermalright Silver Arrow http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11676/cpu-tri-77/Ther...
TIM - $ 5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $ 65 - (2 x 4GB) Corsair White CAS 8 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $ 230 - Asus GTX 560 900Mhz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $ 230 - Same
HD - $ 180 - Seagate Barracuda XT 3TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
SSD - $ 200 - 120 GB Corsair M4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $ 59 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Card Reader $ 50 AeroCool FP-01 55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Keyboard - $ 100 - Logitech G510 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mouse - $ 50 - Logitech G500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor - $ 290 - ASUS VG236HE Black 23" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS - $ 140 - Win 7-64 Home Professional http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Alternately......

Get one 580 now and get another after XMas..... + $20
Up the PSU to the AX1200 .... + (outta stock)
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November 1, 2011 11:41:40 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
590 and 6990 are dogs in CF or SLI

Case - $ 290 - Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
Case Fan - $ 12 - Thermaltake Blue120 mm http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU - $ 150 - Corsair HX850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MoBo - $ 200 - ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU - $ 215 - Intel Core i5-2500K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler - $ 83 - Thermalright Silver Arrow http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11676/cpu-tri-77/Ther...
TIM - $ 5 - Shin Etsu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM - $ 65 - (2 x 4GB) Corsair White CAS 8 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $ 230 - Asus GTX 560 900Mhz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GFX - $ 230 - Same
HD - $ 180 - Seagate Barracuda XT 3TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_conten...
SSD - $ 200 - 120 GB Corsair M4 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD Writer - $ 59 - Asus Model BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Card Reader $ 50 AeroCool FP-01 55 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Keyboard - $ 100 - Logitech G510 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mouse - $ 50 - Logitech G500 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Monitor - $ 290 - ASUS VG236HE Black 23" http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS - $ 140 - Win 7-64 Home Professional http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Alternately......

Get one 580 now and get another after XMas..... + $20
Up the PSU to the AX1200 .... + (outta stock)


absolutely no need for a 1200w, the card reader HDD DVD Writer and the up to the G10? lots of wasted cash imo.... agree with the 580 tho

monitor if needed... 24in http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 200$

not tryin to bash your build just seems like overkill in the wrong places
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November 2, 2011 12:25:22 AM

Jrakon said:
Yeah i hear you on the ram. I just want to make sure in 2015-16 im still running smooth and not bottlenecking. After that the kid will be coming along so ill be doing budget builds from there on out. Gotta get it while you can!


I hear that! :lol: 

The nice thing is once you get the build setup and are satisfied when you have to do future upgrades all you'll need is the motherboard, CPU, and RAM, and you'll be set - or upgrade one part at a time like I've been doing.
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November 2, 2011 12:32:56 AM

mtech23 said:
couldn't agree more regarding spinpoint, I finished my brothers build 2 weeks ago and paid 60$ for a spinpoint f3 1TB and now there 80+ and raising if at all in stock

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... -139.99 My mistake i sent the wrong link This is the 850w version of the one I have certified silver.


I've actually been looking at that PSU for my system, I need to get something more energy efficient so it's good to know that's a solid PSU.
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November 2, 2011 1:00:27 AM

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I want something to last me about 4-5 years

not going to happen. it will be very weak at that time. best start by getting a good case, an i5 2500k, a z68 gen3 mobo-http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... , 8gb 1600mhz of ram, and put 2 6970's 2gb's in crossfire with an corsair hx850 to run it all. upgrade from there. you will see no difference from 80-120fps. id say 80 is the sweet spot. get a 1tb hard drive (samsung f3) and a crucial m4 128gb ssd. this all should cost you around 1700$. you should be able to upgrade to ivy bridge since it will probably run on the 1155 socket and you will be able to run the next gen gpu's with the gen3 mobo.
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November 2, 2011 1:17:37 AM

g-unit1111 said:
I've actually been looking at that PSU for my system, I need to get something more energy efficient so it's good to know that's a solid PSU.

Off topic but there also modular, slightly stiff wires but still was able to get them where i wanted. and it looks sick!
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November 2, 2011 1:31:49 AM

I need to buy a 1tb hdd in november but think I was screwed over thanks to you now what... actually wanted a 3tb fml.

I hope people are safe there.... pray for the dead in that disaster.
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November 2, 2011 3:47:03 PM

Anyone think its worth waiting on the Asrock motherboard that is coming out that will support two slots PCI @ 16x each?

http://news.softpedia.com/news/ASRock-X79-Extreme4-LGA-...

Again might be massive overkill but looking forward want to try to maintain a lot of upgradability (is that a word?)
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November 2, 2011 3:52:28 PM

Jrakon said:
Anyone think its worth waiting on the Asrock motherboard that is coming out that will support two slots PCI @ 16x each?

http://news.softpedia.com/news/ASRock-X79-Extreme4-LGA-...

Again might be massive overkill but looking forward want to try to maintain a lot of upgradability (is that a word?)



If you plan on continuing to do Crossfire/SLi builds then I would say yes wait for it. It will be nice not having a second card downgrade you to 8x.
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November 3, 2011 11:47:41 AM

Looks like a bunch of X79 boards just dropped. With those chipsets the ivy bridge and pci 3.0 i should be good to go for a while. Hopefully they hit the shelves soon
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November 3, 2011 12:03:47 PM

Actually, the X79 boards are specifically for socket LGA 2011, the Sandy Bridge-E processors, not Ivy Bridge.

I know Intel has said it Ivy Bridge will be compatible with LGA 1155, but I havent heard anything about 2011.
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November 3, 2011 12:09:35 PM

You probally wont need a i7, go with an i5 2500k, overclock it and that should free up a fair amount for a 2nd Graphics card if you want a Xfire or SLI build.
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November 30, 2011 1:07:21 AM

before overclocking it get a warranty from your retailer... I got one, glad I did. now when I decide to get down to over clocking if something goes wrong instant replacement.

I5 2500k just bought one ^^.
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November 30, 2011 2:33:45 AM

kikislime said:
before overclocking it get a warranty from your retailer... I got one, glad I did. now when I decide to get down to over clocking if something goes wrong instant replacement.

I5 2500k just bought one ^^.



What do you mean "get a warranty from your retailer"?
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November 30, 2011 7:53:42 AM

well I added an extra warranty from my retailer, just in case I decided to OC...


I bought it from a retail store and was asked if I wanted to add 19 dollar warranty for 2 years.
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November 30, 2011 7:54:10 AM

if you OC it voids warranty as you know.
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November 30, 2011 7:57:45 AM

is there a problem with his mobo choice being z68?
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November 30, 2011 12:41:15 PM

kikislime said:
well I added an extra warranty from my retailer, just in case I decided to OC...


I bought it from a retail store and was asked if I wanted to add 19 dollar warranty for 2 years.


Oh okay...ya that makes sense.
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