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New Gaming System, First Build.

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November 2, 2011 1:49:06 PM

So sick of laptops now had nothing but problems with the last 2. So i decided to look into building a desktop for the first time.

Approximate Purchase Date: By end of month (30/11)

Budget Range: Would like to keep it under 1400,

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming > Internet Browsing > Work Based Programs (Excel/Myob/Quickbooks) > Video streaming

Parts Not Required: Speakers/Keyboard/Mouse

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Used Msy for prices but not bias towards any site

Country of Origin: Aus

Parts Preferences: Been told intel is the way to go, processors wise, but really open to anything

Overclocking: Never done it before but if its not to hard why not

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 or what ever the monitor can support

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CPU: Intel i5 2500k - $220
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=7581

MoBo: AsRock Z68-Extreme3-Gen3 Intel Z68 USB3.0 1155pin Motherboard - $135
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8247

Cooling Fan - Thermaltake ISGC 100 Universal Cooler Fan - $39
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=1388

Video Card - 2x Gigabyte 1GB 6850 PCI-E VGA Card - $318
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=6834

Ram - Patriot Gamer 8G Kit(4Gx2) DDR3 1600 - $67
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=7227

Hdd - 2x Seagate Barracda 7200.7 80gb - Free
http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=4a713b0...

Sdd - Patriot PYRO Sanforce SF-2200 120B - $187
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=8053

PSU - Corsair TX-650 ATX Power Supply Unit - $113
http://msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=4990

Case - Thermaltake Dokker Tower Case without PSU - $61
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=6873

Monitor - Philips 21.5" 222EL2SB 5ms Gloss-Black DVI LED Backlight LCD Monitor - $129
http://www.msy.com.au/product.jsp?productId=7973

Network Card - TP-LINK TL-WN781N PCI-E 150M Wireless-N 150M Network Card - $18

Optical - Samsung SATA 22x Black DVD RW - $19

OS - Microsoft MS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit OEM - $95

Total Cost: $1401
Prices taken from http://www.msy.com.au

So i have a few questions to start off


1. So a mate upgraded his Hdd's a couple of months ago and since i have over 2TB in external space, he gave me his 80gb's will these work with my current setup or are they to old(he said they were about 5 or 6 years old) ?

2. Same friend upgraded to twin 6850's in crossfire and cant praise them enough. Is this the best option for GPU in the price range ? or can n e one recommend a better GPU setup for $300 to $400

3. The Case comes with a 500W PSU will this be enough to run the 2 GPU's, 2 HDD's, SDD, MoBo/CPU and all the other requirements ?

4. Is it worth the extra $80 to upgrade 7 home to 7 ultimate ?

5. Is it that hard to put together a computer from parts ? should i set aside some money in the budget and get someone to put it together for me, or can i do it myself ?

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Edit 1: Formatted layout, can't seem to get onto MSY site ATM will add links later

Edit 2: added links

Edit 3: Changed Case and MoBo, added 650w PSU

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November 2, 2011 2:26:10 PM

1. I wouldn't use those old hard drives. They are probably IDE which means you'd need an IDE to SATA adapter as your motherboard won't have the hook ups for it. Plus 80GB is nothing.

2. 2x 6850 is great if you can squeeze it to 400 and grab 6870s all the better

3. Don't use the psu that comes with the case. They are terrible and 500W isn't enough for 6850s. You'd want at least 650W and that's from a reputable psu from antec, seasonic, corsair, xfx

4. nope

5. I'd say it's not hard. It's intimidating to do it for the first time and some things are more of a pain than others like all those little pin pieces (power, reset, speaker, led, etc), cpu+heatsink, and then there is the problem of troubleshooting if the build doesn't work when everything is put together. I'd recommend a friend to help you out if you've never done it and want to ensure you do it right.
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November 2, 2011 4:03:18 PM

Thanks for the reply,

The Hdd's are SATA 1, i plan on getting a 1TB internal eventually but with the thai floods, Hdd have gone up in price, so figured i could try get away with the 160gb internal and my 2 TB worth of externals for the time being.

As for GPU is there a big improvement in getting 2 6870's over 2 6850's would be looking at an extra 60 bucks if i got something like this http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_i...

Will have a look into Cases/PSU's over then next few days. Do you have any recommendations or just anything from those brands is good.
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November 2, 2011 4:24:06 PM

I wouldn't say a big improvement maybe 5-10fps. A few years down the road it could be difference between playable and unbearable but for now you wouldn't notice a difference.

Work is blocking your site :p  I prefer corsair for their one 12V rails with high amps. Any 650-750W would do fine. they also come with 5-7year warranties.

I am glad I got a few HDDs before Thailand floods. I suppose it will have to do until the prices go back down :p 
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November 3, 2011 9:59:22 AM

The majority of people I see building rigs atm are using the asrock extreme3 gen3. it's a great mobo and looks good too!
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November 3, 2011 2:48:46 PM

yeah ive been browsing through other builds and it kept coming up so i figured ill give it a shot if its that good at that price. Also changed the case and PSU over to Corsair TX-650 ATX and Thermaltake Dokker just falls over the $1400 i was aiming for but i guess i can spare a dollar :D 

One (hopefully last) more question: will i need anything else to put it all together, like cables or special tools etc ?
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November 3, 2011 2:52:15 PM

The only tool you'd need would be a mini screw driver. All cables/screws/stands/etc come with the hardware. Some also recommend an anti static wristband to prevent a potential short, but I've never had a static issue even building a computer on carpet >.>
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