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November 2, 2011 10:36:54 PM

Alright guys i need your advise on this build i think it looks pretty good and am going to be buying tonight. but i want to see what you guys have to say about it. Thanks

Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$49.99


BIOSTAR A870U3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
$69.99


SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
$179.99


Antec EarthWatts EA-500D Green 500W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
$59.99



G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
$26.99


AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ955FBGMBOX
$124.99


Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
$99.99

subtotal: 611.93

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November 2, 2011 10:44:01 PM

That looks pretty good. It's almost identical to my build. My only suggestion is to use this link to get $14 off of your processor and graphics card as a combo deal.

EDIT: Newegg is having their Black November sale right now. If you are willing to wait a little bit their should be some good deals in the next few weeks that could save you some money.
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November 2, 2011 10:49:40 PM

It's not a bad build at all, a couple of minor nitpicks:

- Go with the 970 instead of the 870 (my 870 was struggling with the x6, but it's your call really) - it's a much more recent chipset from AMD and it'll be able to handle all current and some future CPUs down the road

- Also check out the Cooler Master HAF 912, and Antec 300 Illusion for case suggestions

- And I'd substitute the Corsair Builder Series CX500 over the Antec Earthwatts, but that's just my personal preference.
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November 2, 2011 11:00:24 PM

Tiger Direct has the 955BE for $110 right now.

But I'm a bit confused. Why not go with the i3 and a Z68 motherboard for the same price? A Z68 board will be upgradeable to Ivy Bridge.
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November 2, 2011 11:01:17 PM

thanks for all the input guys i switched mobo to the ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 and the 955 and 6870 combo
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November 2, 2011 11:03:35 PM

dalauder said:
Tiger Direct has the 955BE for $110 right now.

But I'm a bit confused. Why not go with the i3 and a Z68 motherboard for the same price? A Z68 board will be upgradeable to Ivy Bridge.


Because the 955 is superior to the i3 in gaming and that's going to be the main use and its for my little brother, hes not going to be needing ivy bridge for what hes doing.
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November 2, 2011 11:06:17 PM

HDD? Spinpoint F3, if you don't have one.
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November 2, 2011 11:08:24 PM

kajabla said:
HDD? Spinpoint F3, if you don't have one.


going to be taking one out of my system with the price of hdds so high now
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November 2, 2011 11:11:25 PM

austinwillis81 said:
thanks for all the input guys i switched mobo to the ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 and the 955 and 6870 combo


Much better choices all around. You should also look into getting an inexpensive cooler while you're at it. If you don't plan to overclock it's fine using the AMD stock fan.
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November 2, 2011 11:14:30 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Much better choices all around. You should also look into getting an inexpensive cooler while you're at it. If you don't plan to overclock it's fine using the AMD stock fan.


ya i think i will now and i threw in the PSU u mentioned and theres a $5 promo for that too so its looking real good now ill post the new build in a minute
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November 2, 2011 11:18:17 PM

so anybody have any suggestions on a cheaper CPU cooler and a 120mm case fan?
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November 2, 2011 11:25:16 PM

updated build

COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 Black Steel / Plastic Computer Case $49.99

ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $84.99

CORSAIR Builder Series CX500 V2 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply $59.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model $26.99

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM $99.99

SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card bundle with CPU $290.98

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor

COOLER MASTER R4-L2S-122B-GP 120mm 4 Blue LED Case Fan 2 in 1 pack $11.99

Link Depot 3 Pin Fan Power Y Cable Model POW-ADT-3PY $3.49

total: $628.41

is the fan power y cable needed or not in not sure?
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November 3, 2011 12:17:58 AM

Alright so at tiger direct they have the 955 for $109 and the GIGABYTE GV-R687OC-1GD Radeon HD 6870 Video Card for $159 after rebates so whats your guys thoughts on that video card?
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November 3, 2011 12:19:38 AM

A 6870? It's pretty nice. If you want to spend more money, you can go up to around 560 Ti level without bottlenecking on a good GPU overclock, I think. Depends how much you want to spend.
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November 3, 2011 12:26:05 AM

kajabla said:
A 6870? It's pretty nice. If you want to spend more money, you can go up to around 560 Ti level without bottlenecking on a good GPU overclock, I think. Depends how much you want to spend.


no i meant what would you pick the sapphire or the GIGABYTE card if they where the same price there both 6870's
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November 3, 2011 2:17:11 AM

The Gigabyte looks better for minor OCing.
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November 3, 2011 3:43:03 AM

austinwillis81 said:
Because the 955 is superior to the i3 in gaming and that's going to be the main use and its for my little brother, hes not going to be needing ivy bridge for what hes doing.
Where'd you hear the 955 is superior to the i3 in gaming?: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-rev...

Does your little brother overclock? If not, the 955 is kinda useless. I just don't get why you'd spend the same on a dead-end Phenom II system when you could build an equal Ivy Bridge compatible build for the same price. I guess I'd understand if you have a vendetta against Intel though.

EDIT: Oh, I see you switched mobos. At least that board's not dead-end, but I wouldn't bet on Pile Driver when I could bet on Ivy Bridge with the same amount of money being risked.
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November 3, 2011 3:46:40 AM

For $611, I'd get a GTX 560Ti. Spend more on graphics and less on your case. Only one affects your fps unless you're a serious OC'er. By the way, do you have a Micro Center nearby?
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November 3, 2011 4:37:45 AM

dalauder said:
For $611, I'd get a GTX 560Ti. Spend more on graphics and less on your case. Only one affects your fps unless you're a serious OC'er. By the way, do you have a Micro Center nearby?

no I wish i did tho
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November 3, 2011 4:41:59 AM

dalauder said:
Where'd you hear the 955 is superior to the i3 in gaming?: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-rev...

Does your little brother overclock? If not, the 955 is kinda useless. I just don't get why you'd spend the same on a dead-end Phenom II system when you could build an equal Ivy Bridge compatible build for the same price. I guess I'd understand if you have a vendetta against Intel though.

EDIT: Oh, I see you switched mobos. At least that board's not dead-end, but I wouldn't bet on Pile Driver when I could bet on Ivy Bridge with the same amount of money being risked.


sorry i didn't mention that i would be OC'ing the system. and i also didn't include the CPU cooler in my list as a have a Hyper 212 Plus that i got from my friend
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November 3, 2011 4:54:37 AM

Case: $20

Mobo: $115 GIGABYTE GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I own this motherboard and haven't had an issue with it. I love Virtu because it allows me to use up to 4 monitors (2 for gaming) with a single non-eyefinity card. It's great in my work computer.

Graphics: $170 (AR) GTX 560 Ti

PSU: $40 Antec Neo Eco 620W

RAM: $27 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL

CPU: $120 i3-2100

OS: $100 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

TOTAL: $592


All these prices are completely conceivable. I got my Antec Neo Eco 620W for $30 in September. These Raidmax cases were $19 shipped a month ago: http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3357768

And GTX 560 Ti's have been $175 before, just keep an eye on slickdeals.net.
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November 3, 2011 4:55:56 AM

austinwillis81 said:
sorry i didn't mention that i would be OC'ing the system. and i also didn't include the CPU cooler in my list as a have a Hyper 212 Plus that i got from my friend
Well The OC'ing does make a big difference in choosing the 955BE. But if that's the case, I'd still say it only makes more sense than Sandy Bridge if you lowball all the parts except for graphics. I think it'll only be worth it if you find great deals for all the parts.
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November 3, 2011 5:14:13 AM

dalauder said:
Where'd you hear the 955 is superior to the i3 in gaming?: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-rev...

Does your little brother overclock? If not, the 955 is kinda useless. I just don't get why you'd spend the same on a dead-end Phenom II system when you could build an equal Ivy Bridge compatible build for the same price. I guess I'd understand if you have a vendetta against Intel though.

EDIT: Oh, I see you switched mobos. At least that board's not dead-end, but I wouldn't bet on Pile Driver when I could bet on Ivy Bridge with the same amount of money being risked.


The tomshardware system builder marathon $500 build should have settled this . The Phenom is a better gaming cpu , and its better everywhere else too .
The anandtech gaming benches are a great example of how to use statistics to prove pretty much anything . NO ONE would build a system like the ones they benchmark . Bottom end cpu , top end gpu and a low resolution monitor .
This is not how a budget builder spends their money .

As for the future ........... who can tell . There are clearly problems with AMD FX but in less than a year , maybe in just months , there will be piledriver cores that will hopefully fix some of the issues .
An AM3+ mb has a future for sure .

And right now ...... still more bang, and bang for buck, from AMD at this price point
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November 3, 2011 6:53:16 AM

I guess I'd go for the Phenom II x3 720BE with that mobo and a 6950 1GB (unless he's playing at 1920x1200). 50/50 chance of unlock plus you save $40 or more on the CPU and use the same cooler you'd have had anyways.

But I'd always go with the gamble option if it's there (unlocking)--which is more worth it for my own build than someone else's.

EDIT: Here, this satisfies my gambling inclination: $115 Phenom II x4 960T Zosma http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It may unlock to a hexacore, it's got an unlocked multiplier, and it's cheaper than Newegg has the 955BE at.
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November 3, 2011 9:41:44 PM

I think it's now much harder to get a 6950 unlocked. Maybe it used to be 50/50, but the companies have caught on.
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November 3, 2011 10:17:16 PM

kajabla said:
I think it's now much harder to get a 6950 unlocked. Maybe it used to be 50/50, but the companies have caught on.
Oh No, I mean unlock a Phenom II x3 or a Phenom II x4 Zosma to an x4 or x6, respectively. The 1GB 6950's never unlocked anyways.
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November 3, 2011 11:26:09 PM

Ah. Sure. I have seen deals on 955s under $115, though.
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November 3, 2011 11:28:07 PM

Alright so its settled ive bought the parts from newegg last night. its the same machine that i posted earlier. And i understand what your saying dalauder but im not the greatest overclocker and i dont really want to take the risk on a computer thats not even going to be mine so i went with the 955be. and its a 1920x1080 moniter if your wondering
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November 4, 2011 12:54:21 AM

Okay, that computer will work well. Gambling makes more sense when it's a build for yourself. I'd like to get my hands on a Zosma though.
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