$250 MAX

[realibrad]

I currently have a 9800GTX+ running in my system.

Current hardware is AMD X 3 720 BE at 3.2
4GB of Gskill DDR2 RAM
790FX Mobo
750 W Corsair psu
1920X1080 monitor

Im toying with the idea of a full platform upgrade, but if that happens, ill need to wait another 2. I havnt been keeping up on the latest hardware and have no real idea if anything is coming out graphics wise.

my mobo is 790fx so crossfire is an option.

 

[geekapproved]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161388&cm_sp=DailyDeal-_-14-161-388-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130623

 

[jubapro]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130651

Thats what I have...

 

[4745454b]

Your board supports CF, not SLI, so you can't put another 9800 in there.

When are you upgrading your system? I could see getting the 6950 or 560TI if it will be semi soon. I wouldn't put one of those cards with an x3 however. 6870 might be a better choice.

 

[megamanx00]

Well, your motherboard supports X6 CPUs but that may not do much for you unless you use alot of heavily threaded applications. What you can do for now is get a good CPU cooler (the hyper 212+ is insanely cheap right now), overclock your CPU, and get either a single 6950 or two 6850s in CF. I say get the 6950 so that latter on you can add a second on in CF when you drop in an X6. I'm guessing you have a C2 CPU (I don't think there were C3 720BEs) so you may be a bit limited on your OC depending on your sample. Even so getting it to 3.6-3.8 should be a decent boost for now.

 

[realibrad]

Im looking to upgrade the motherboard and cpu in probably in the next 1-2 years. i found this card which has a nice factory OC on it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385


I think i might go with that card, and when i upgrade, ill just get another and CF the cards.

thanks for the reply guys.

 

[geekapproved]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130651

Thats what I have...

You said you had a 9800GTX.............now your saying you already have a 560ti??

I see no reason to upgrade the cpu for any of those cards. A X3 at 3.2 is gonna throw the same framerates as a X4 or X6 at 3.2.

 

[FlintIronStagg]

You said you had a 9800GTX.............now your saying you already have a 560ti??

I see no reason to upgrade the cpu for any of those cards. A X3 at 3.2 is gonna throw the same framerates as a X4 or X6 at 3.2.

that was a different poster with the 560Ti...
To OP, Great choice on the 6950, and even better on the non reference model.

 

[jjb8675309]

personally this is what id get if I pulled the trigger on a gpu today:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121424

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127594

do the overclocking yourself, these are great models and my asus holds a 1 ghz oc with relatively low temps (never above 70c)

 

[realibrad]

personally this is what id get if I pulled the trigger on a gpu today:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121424

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127594

do the overclocking yourself, these are great models and my asus holds a 1 ghz oc with relatively low temps (never above 70c)

Im guessing you are an Nvida fan? lol
OK, so all the reviews I was looking at, the 6950 beats the 560 ti. I made sure to look at the correct 560, but it still shows the 6950 beating the fermi. Am I missing something?

Im running an Nvidia card now, so I dont really care which one I get really. I do see that some of the 560's look a little cheaper, but not by much.

 

[jjb8675309]

wrong, when oc'ed especially the 560ti crushes a 6950, depends on what game you are lookign at but they are generally on par with each other

 

[realibrad]

wrong, when oc'ed especially the 560ti crushes a 6950, depends on what game you are lookign at but they are generally on par with each other

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385 1GB 6950 $239

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127578 1GB 560 Ti $ 259

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161372 2GB 6950 $269

Im still having trouble finding cinsistent benchmarks that show the 560 ti beating the 6950. They both seem to trade blows depending on the games. I still cant find a bench where a 560 Ti Crushes, only beats by about 10-15%, but then on another game, the 6950 does the same.

The three cards I listed all have some factory OC on them. The 560 Ti sits in the middle nicely, and has a pretty nice factory OC on it. The 2GB 6950 is only $10 more, and has 2GB which so im kinda split between the 1GB 560 TI and the 2GB 6950.

 

[jjb8675309]

well what about a ti at 1ghz vs a stock 6950, there is no comparison, a ti at 1ghz is just as fast as the gtx 570/6970... with the asus dc2 model this is what I was able to achieve the cards are basically on par with each ohther at stock but certain tis have unreal oc ability... overall they are pretty much identical in real world performance (at stock)

 

[eyefinity]

Im still having trouble finding cinsistent benchmarks that show the 560 ti beating the 6950. They both seem to trade blows depending on the games. I still cant find a bench where a 560 Ti Crushes, only beats by about 10-15%, but then on another game, the 6950 does the same.

You won't find any consistent benchmarks showing that. A massively overclocked 560 Ti trades blows with a stock 6950 but an overclocked 6950 certainly crushes the 560 Ti.

 

[jjb8675309]

here we go again, you are wrong kid, we've already been through this, in the end they are basically equal but by no means does the 6950 crush the ti,

 

[jjb8675309]

a massively oc'ed 560ti trades blows with a 570/6970, mine is oc'ed at 1 ghz and formerly had a 570 so I would know bro its the same performance that I had before

 

[eyefinity]

Don't call me kid, and show some links and we'll soon see who is right and who is wrong about "crushing".

 

[jjb8675309]

weve been through this, they are on par with each other lets leave it at that 'lil boy im just messing with you dude relax

 

[eyefinity]

If you say the 560 Ti is "on par" with the 6950 then you have to say the 6870 is "on par" with the 560 Ti.

 

[jjb8675309]

look at the gigbayte soc model that is on every chart and it is almost always above the 6950 and often right next to the 6970. This model represents a gtx 560ti with a 1ghz core oc, all im saying is that they have good oc potential (I know I have one) and that when oc'ed they are equal to a gtx 570/ 6970, just as if you got a 6950 that had great oc potential, either way at stock they are pretty much equal taking out games that favor either title

http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-gtx560-directcu-ii-review/18

overall they are on par with each other so why do you keep saying that the 6950 is far superior more or less, they are equals essentially but personally I prefer the intagibles of the gtx 560ti

 

[jjb8675309]

If you say the 560 Ti is "on par" with the 6950 then you have to say the 6870 is "on par" with the 560 Ti.

6870s have about 40% of the oc headroom as the chips we are actually talkign abotu and by no means is the 6870 on par with the gtx 560ti.... no no no

 

[eyefinity]

look at the gigbayte soc model that is on every chart and it is almost always above the 6950 and often right next to the 6970. This model represents a gtx 560ti with a 1ghz core oc, all im saying is that they have good oc potential (I know I have one) and that when oc'ed they are equal to a gtx 570/ 6970, just as if you got a 6950 that had great oc potential, either way at stock they are pretty much equal taking out games that favor either title

http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus-gtx560-directcu-ii-review/18

overall they are on par with each other so why do you keep saying that the 6950 is far superior more or less, they are equals essentially but personally I prefer the intagibles of the gtx 560ti

Actually if you look up the thread you were the one who started with the "crushing" nonsense.

Both overclocked, the 6950 really does "crush" the 560 Ti however.

http://techgage.com/article/amd_hd_6950_1gb_vs_nvidia_gtx_560_ti_overclocking/4

Also, the gigabyte SOC model is out of stock on newegg and costs $260. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125369&Tpk=soc%20560%20ti

Guess what, you can buy an overclocked Gigabyte 6950 for $20 cheaper. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385

Why would anyone want to pay more for a slower card? They wouldn't it's just fanboy nonsense to pay more for slower tech (think apple macs).

 

[jjb8675309]

well I got my asus dc2 for 210 AR and it holds a ghz oc, the gigabyte model is just an example but with some of the models I listed you can do your own oc'ing both are on par with each other, the gigbyte 6950 would also be a good choice imo. Im no fanboy I just prefer the best product for the money and imo either the 6950 or gtx 560(ti) would be a great choice depending on price, the gigabyte 560ti is a ripoff but many great models can be had for less

also in the tech gauge review you listed that is pretty much all games that favor radeon cards so not a non biased review at all imo,

Ive been saying that the 560ti and 6950 are ON PAR with each other. can we at least agree with that?

 

[jjb8675309]

^ yeah I was just using it as a benchmark example personally I agree with going with the asus dc2 or msi tf2/3 if the price is right, never used zotac so I cant personally say.. oh well

 

[eyefinity]

also in the tech gauge review you listed that is pretty much all games that favor radeon cards so not a non biased review at all imo

WHAT?


The only game there known to favour AMD cards is JC2, the rest are either TWIMTBP games like Mafia and Metro 2033 or Dirt 2 which is known to massively favour Nvidia cards! Note that JC2 is a TWIMTBP title too btw!

So 3 of the 5 tested games are TWIMTBP and one is Dirt 2 yet you think the review favours AMD cards? :lol:

Ive been saying that the 560ti and 6950 are ON PAR with each other. can we at least agree with that?

No because you're wrong. A heavily overclocked 560 Ti is on par with a 6950 but as soon as the 6950 is overclocked it easily pulls away again.