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February 3, 2012 11:40:42 PM

hi

im building a video editing rig, and was wondering how much of a difference in performance between the Xeon 1240, Xeon 1235, i7 2600, and the i5 2500

since im on a real tight budget, the i7 is just about out of my reach, but i should be able to grab a Xeon 1240 or 1235 (on sale)

now the xeons seem better other than you can't overclock (i dont plan to whether i get the i7/i5 or the xeons), so that doesnt matter. the xeons have a higher cache (8mb vs 6mb on the i5, but same as i7) so that seems a plus. only difference between the 2600 and the 1240 seems to be the 100mhz clock difference, which isnt a big deal because you also have HT on the xeon. so will the xeon perform basically the same as an i7 2600?

ill be doing other things besides just video editing obviously too (photo editing, music/sound work and of course basic web browsing, word, etc.). but vid editing is prolly the most intense thing i do.

now, the Xeon doesn't offer built in GPU, correct? is that the key difference between an i7 2600 and a Xeon 1240?

will all these CPUs (xeon, i7 & i5) work with the Asus P8Z68 m-Pro mATX board? and be powered by a 430w PSU, 8gb 1600 ram, windows home premium?

i know xeons are "servers" or "workstation" chips but id think that even though im not really a professional (yet), what i need my build for is close to a workstation

thanks

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February 4, 2012 12:04:00 AM

Hi :) 

Have you seen how much Xeon motherboards are lol ?

All the best Brett :) 
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February 4, 2012 12:11:08 AM

you won't be able to afford xeon motherboards if you can't afford an i7.

Check AMD if you want a cheap machine that is good for video editing.
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February 4, 2012 12:16:39 AM

Brett928S2 said:
Hi :) 

Have you seen how much Xeon motherboards are lol ?

All the best Brett :) 


don't i5/i7s use the same motherboards? the xeon here (as well as all the e3s i think) say LG1155. thats what i7s use

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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February 4, 2012 4:45:09 AM

Not exactly. The boards have to be compatible with the chip. Not all chips of the same socket will be compatible with all motherboards. You have to look at the manufacturer's compatibility lists. If it isn't listed, assume it won't work.

Xeon's are typically a higher binned, meaning it will run cooler and last longer in demanding environments (such as render farms, servers, etc)... In the old days, the Xeon version of, say, the E8400 would run no different than the E8400. Except they were sought after because they could overclock higher and with less voltage.

The i7 2600 is going to be faster than the Xeon 1240 because it is 100 MHz faster. Otherwise, aside from binning (and a 100 MHz increase), they are the same chip with relatively the same performance.

So unless you plan on running that chip at 100% 24/7, get the i7 (or i5 if the i7 is outside of your budget).
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February 4, 2012 3:04:59 PM

The advantage of the current E3 Xeons over a similar LGA1155 Core i3/i5/i7 is that the Xeons support error-correcting (ECC) memory. ECC memory can help a system be more stable if you run it continuously for very long periods of time. Performance is no different. But if money is an issue, go with the Core-branded models. ECC support requires ECC RAM, ECC support in the CPU, and ECC support in the motherboard BIOS. ECC memory is not that much more expensive than "standard desktop" non-ECC memory, but the ECC-supporting Xeons carry a premium over the non-ECC-supporting Cores, and the LGA1155 server motherboard with the BIOS that supports ECC memory carries a significant premium over a consumer 1155 board without a BIOS that supports ECC. The only Xeons that carry a performance benefit over Core-branded chips are the ones that can be used in multi-processor boards. They cost a LOT more than a desktop setup when it's all said and done.

If money is an issue, also consider AMD CPUs, particularly the Phenom II X6s and the FX-8120. They won't outrun a Sandy Bridge i7 but they are competitive with the i5s but with a lower-cost motherboard. Like the Xeons, AMD AM3/AM3+ CPUs support ECC memory and most of ASUS's AM3/AM3+ consumer motherboards do too, so if you were thinking Xeons more for added reliability, you may want to go with the AMD chips instead.

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February 4, 2012 3:22:03 PM

just fyi you can overclock xeon cpu's just like a i7 2600k
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February 4, 2012 4:40:58 PM

No you cannot overclock the e3 series xeons, they are locked multis like the non-k cpus. Xeons do work on 1155 mobos but no manufacturer is going to officially support it. I've suggested to plenty of people to get the xeon 1230 when not OCing as it's near the i7 2600 but quite a bit cheaper. It does not need a xeon board and does not need ecc ram. Xeons ending with 0 do not have igpu, those ending with 5 have the p3000.

You can even google it http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q... or any 1155 chipset, I've never heard it not working. Intel even states xeons on their 1155 desktop mobos although the list is old and doesn't state them all, they all work. http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.asp... http://processormatch.intel.com/CompDB/SearchResult.asp...
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February 4, 2012 4:53:49 PM

k1114 said:
No you cannot overclock the e3 series xeons, they are locked multis like the non-k cpus. Xeons do work on 1155 mobos but no manufacturer is going to officially support it. I've suggested to plenty of people to get the xeon 1230 when not OCing as it's near the i7 2600 but quite a bit cheaper. It does not need a xeon board and does not need ecc ram.

You can even google it http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q... or any 1155 chipset, I've never heard it not working.


http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/xeon_e3_1230/

so it looks like your limited to bclk overclocking. i was wrong i must be thinking of lga 1366 xeons.
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February 5, 2012 3:18:44 AM

cbrunnem said:
http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/xeon_e3_1230/

so it looks like your limited to bclk overclocking. i was wrong i must be thinking of lga 1366 xeons.

You were thinking of the X5xxx xeons :p  Idk why they even have extreme edition xeons, well i guess 2x 990x in your system :na:  I want 2x 3960x in my system :sol: 
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