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February 4, 2012 5:44:10 PM

I need to upgrade my computer and looking into some suggestions on what a decent motherboard/processor would be.

I've purchased pre-bulilt systems all my life, so I didn't really have to worry about the componetns. My current setup is an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual core processor 6000+3.01 ghz with 6GB ram. The mobo is a foxconn. I bought it thru Vigor Gaming, which doesn't exist anymore (purchased back in 2008 i believe).

My GPU will be upgraded once I can get the other components upgraded.

I've been playing Battlefield 3, which is an extremely resource hogging game. I've got all my settings on low and with few as possible processes running so I can try and dedicate any resource to the game. Well, it just isn't cutting it for me any more. I want to experience the game smoothly...not jumpy.

I've got a big A+ case with an existing 1100 watt psu.

I'm leaning more towards an Intel processor rather and AMD.

I'd like to stay around the $500 range for a mobo/processor...that is including a cooling system for the processor.

Can someone guide me on what I should get and/or your experiences with what you have now.

Thanks in advance.

Nick
February 5, 2012 1:04:21 PM

Thanks for the links. Anyone else have any other suggestions...something that will go hand-in-hand with bf3?

Thanks

Nick
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February 5, 2012 2:14:12 PM

Btw, you don't mention which graphics card you are using. I'm assumimg you have a discrete card now and are not using integrated, right? Once you have any adequate processor, after that it's all about the graphics card. One other item equally important to know, is the resolution of your monitor; the resolution you will be gaming at. Before I went with two GTX 570s, my single card was adequate up to 1920x1080 for most games at max/near max settings.
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February 5, 2012 5:11:12 PM

I will be getting a diff vc...one I have now won't cut it. That's the resolution id be playing with since that is what my monitor can handle.
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February 5, 2012 9:14:15 PM

i5-2500k
asus p8z68-v pro/gen 3
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February 5, 2012 10:17:51 PM

Why? I prefer mATX boards over ATX. Even though it's a mATX, it still supports SLI / Crossfire.
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February 5, 2012 10:39:44 PM

e56imfg said:
Why? I prefer mATX boards over ATX. Even though it's a mATX, it still supports SLI / Crossfire.

matx boards are less quality and are not as good for sli/cf and overclocking. The p8z68-v pro/gen 3 outperforms the maximus-gene z.
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February 5, 2012 10:50:01 PM

amuffin said:
matx boards are less quality and are not as good for sli/cf and overclocking. The p8z68-v pro/gen 3 outperforms the maximus-gene z.

You can't say they're less quality because the Maximus Gene-Z is just a smaller version of the Extreme. They are still great for OCing, it just comes in a smaller form factor with less PCI slots.
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February 5, 2012 11:35:16 PM

there is a slight difference in there ability to hold a stable oc. its not just smaller they use cheaper components 2. there are better quality boards for the same money...
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February 5, 2012 11:55:50 PM

e56imfg said:
You can't say they're less quality because the Maximus Gene-Z is just a smaller version of the Extreme. They are still great for OCing, it just comes in a smaller form factor with less PCI slots.

Not exactly :lol: 
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February 6, 2012 2:28:54 AM

That's very interesting about the mATX boards being of lesser quality than the ATX boards. Could you provide some verification of that?
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February 6, 2012 2:31:02 AM

clutchc said:
That's very interesting about the mATX boards being of lesser quality than the ATX boards. Could you provide some verification of that?

Ya, this was a big shock to me. Please explain.
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February 6, 2012 7:12:04 PM

Clutchc,

I think that I'm going to go with the recommendations you provided in the first post. I know that I want to go with the i5 processor.

I've got my ideas on a video card. I know that you provided a couple links, but I don't want to be "marginal" with the eye candy on :) 

The amount I would spend on the video card is around the $300 range. You or anyone wouldn't mind on suggestions?

I really appreciate it.

Nick

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February 6, 2012 7:47:21 PM

simpleman78 said:
Clutchc,

I think that I'm going to go with the recommendations you provided in the first post. I know that I want to go with the i5 processor.

I've got my ideas on a video card. I know that you provided a couple links, but I don't want to be "marginal" with the eye candy on :) 

The amount I would spend on the video card is around the $300 range. You or anyone wouldn't mind on suggestions?

I really appreciate it.

Nick

Using the graphics card hierarchy chart I sent earlier in the post, you can see that the 2 best cards that fall in the price range you quote are the Nvidia GTX 560ti and the AMD HD 6950. They appear to be pretty evenly matched if you read some online reviews.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
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February 6, 2012 9:30:18 PM

With $300, you could get a 448 core 560Ti that's in between the 560 Ti and the 570.
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February 7, 2012 2:08:54 PM

Is the gpu size (in terms of gigabytes) "bigger the better?" Or doesn't it also depend on the other components of the card well? The card I have now is NVidia GeForce 8800 GTX with 768mb on it. It looks like the 448 core 560Ti is only 512 mb more than what I currently have.

Nick

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February 7, 2012 6:13:44 PM

I'm sorry for all the additional posts...maybe I should split it up....

My existing computer has raid setup up (can't remember what setup) but I've got 3 physical hard drives but only have 2 drives within windows. I know that when I replace my mother board i'm going to loose everything and will need to start over...I'm ok with that. I've got a external HD that I will backup everything to. Do you think I should go back to a raid setup?

Also, my existing case has a huge fan in front that I think is supposed to move air through each harddrive. Well, it's broke in the center and will not spin now. I measured across the fan and it measures at 8 inches. I'm guessing I need a 200 mm case fan to replace it? Case is an A+ case (if that is correct).

Not sure if the posted RAM from the previous post would be the recommended ram or if I should go with a higher speed. My existing RAM in my pc is DDR2, so I think I need to replace it.

I think that pretty much it. Other than the PSU and harddrives, I'm basically creating a new pc from scratch.

Nick
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February 7, 2012 7:34:26 PM

When you decide on a motherboard, go to the manufacturer's site for that board and check the Memory compatibility list they provide. It will list the amount, size and speed memory that was tested/verified to work. Not that memory that's not on the list won't work as well, just that when you poplulate all the memory slots with the fastest memory the board is designed for... timings and such get pretty touchy. It may be better to back off on the max speed of the memory if you populate all slots with memory not on the list. At least untill you know how stable the board is.

If you want to use RAID, decide on whether it is for increasing size and speed (striping), or for redundancy (mirroring). I had 2 drives in RAID 0 to increase the size and speed, but never noticed any speed increase. Unless you have a good reason for using a RAID array, you might be better off not using it. Does your existing machine have 2 drives in a RAID array now? Or is RAID just an available option?
http://searchstorage.techtarget.com/definition/RAID

Measure the fan housing edge to edge with a metric tool. That will determine the milimeter size fan you have now.
Or convert inches to mm here if you don't have a metric tool: http://www.calculateme.com/index.htm
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February 8, 2012 12:28:15 AM

Alright, I've got all the components in my NewEgg card. Here is a link to the pdf of the cart with links. Can you take a look and see what you think. For the most part it is the suggestions here.

http://www.mediafire.com/?hl4w70aztdrscwv

I think that video card should be ok for a bit...i hope anyways.

Thanks.

Nick
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February 8, 2012 1:14:45 AM

I really can't see any issues with the list you put together. 16GB is a bit overkill for gaming, but better to have too much than to little. The processor is an excellent choice, as is the board. I hope that big fan fits your case... any idea of the case's make/model? Big fans are the way to go if you have the mounting for them. You'll like the EVO 212 cooler. I have it on my i5-2500K. It is dead silent at idle and cools great. The card will do a fine job gaming at 1080p. BF3 is a killer when it comes to using all the eye candy from what I've read.

Btw, The Nvidia GeForce site has some BF3 tweaks you might be interested in, even though you will have an AMD card: http://www.geforce.com/Optimize/Guides/battlefield-3-tw... Koroush Ghazi is the king for game tweaking. His old site was one of my go-to places for game tweaking in the past ( http://www.tweakguides.com/ )

Hope all the parts come with no DOAs. That happens occassionally. I've had to return a few boards lately. But Newegg is good with RMAs if that happens. Good luck and enjoy...
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February 8, 2012 2:44:57 AM

clutchc,

I appreciate your input on this.

As for the memory, for 16gb and that price is pretty cheap. I hope it will do though.

The case I have can be found here: http://www.xoxide.com/tagan-aplus-diablo-black.html

It doesn't have the big fan on the side...just the front one and the back one. The pc I have now I bought thre Vigor Gaming back in 2007 or 2008, can't remember. They no longer are in business. If the fan doesn't fit I'll get another one.

Running my backups now...since I'll loose all my data after changing the mobo. My system currently is running RAID 0 and will probably do the same with the new mobo.

I'll keep you posted after I get it all together. If I order it tomorrow and should have the all the components next week. I've got a business trip the week of the 19th, so we'll see if I can get it done by then :) 

Thanks again.

Nick
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February 8, 2012 2:45:07 AM

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February 14, 2012 5:25:21 PM

clutchc,

I've got all my components installed and up and running. All I have to say is WOW.

Battlefield 3 is unbelievable while playing on Ultra settings. I can't believe that I've been playing the past 5 months on my previous system. What a difference.

Changing out the mobo wasn't bad...though it would have gone a little easier. If I would have just read the instructions first. This is pretty much my 1st "build". I have 1 short cable i'm unable to connect to the mobo, but it's for the front panel sound...which I don't use. I have a usb setup.

Thanks for your help. I'm really impressed with the out come.

Nick
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February 14, 2012 5:57:43 PM

Congrats on a working new build. Enjoy gaming the way it was meant to be... On a PC.
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February 14, 2012 6:35:39 PM

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