Make due with current gen????

[togan]

Approximate Purchase Date: Black Friday 2011

Budget Range: $2000-$4000 CAD

System Usage: GAMING

Parts NOT required: Sound System

Preferred Website: NCIX.com

Country of Origin: Canada

Parts Preference: Intel,Nvidia,ASUS,MSI

Overclocking: Yes,if not satisfied with stock performance

SLI: NO

Monitor Res. 2560x1440


Yeah so basically I need a whole system. Here's what I have researched, let me know if you see any problems.


CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K

MOBO: ASUS X79 Sabretooth/ROG Rampage IV Extreme

RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16-32GB

HSF: Thermalright Archon REV.A 150mm fans

HDD: Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.D/Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 (RAID1)

SSD: Intel 520 Cherryville/Crucial M4 (120-128GB)

PSU: Seasonic Platinum-1000 (860W debuts Dec 2011)

GPU: MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC (wish the damn 680GTX was available )

ODD: Pioneer BDR-206DBK

CASE: SilverStone *I had the FT02B in mind,but I think the MOBO won't fit;(


Peripherals:

KB: SteelSeries 7G
KBS: Grow Up Japan Inc. Artisan KAI.G3 Hein Hard Surface Medium Cloth Gaming Mouse Pad 12.6"x9.8"
MOUSE: Logitech G9x Laser
MONITOR: Samsung S27A850D
UPS: Tripp Lite SmartOnline (Wattage 600,800,1200) *NEED to figure TDP of rig
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate


Togan

 

[siege_templar]

i want i build like that also, i have decide wait for new gpus to come out and then rush out and buy it all :3 and i also dont have the money for the release of x79

 

[DelroyMonjo]

What is a core I7 3930K?

 

[togan]

BUMP for more serious insight.

 

[michxymi]

BUMP for more serious insight.

Well so much $$ spended for CPU and motherboard and for graphics you go with 560ti? Seriously.........

 

[togan]

Well so much $$ spended for CPU and motherboard and for graphics you go with 560ti? Seriously.........

I can't justify the price difference vs performance from 560-570-580,when I already mentioned that I will upgrade to 680GTX when released.

So I will just have to make due with current tech. At least I chose the 2GB VRAM version,which should help with gaming @2560x1440



Togan

 

[michxymi]

I can't justify the price difference vs performance from 560-570-580,when I already mentioned that I will upgrade to 680GTX when released.

So I will just have to make due with current tech. At least I chose the 2GB VRAM version,which should help with gaming @2560x1440



Togan

i5 2500K + A good Z68 motherboard + Crossfire 6950 / 6970 2GB is clearly the way to go...you don't need to spend so many $$

 

[Soma42]

You seem to have your mind made up, so why ask for help?

a 2500k is more than enough. If you want the extra threads go with a 2700k.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3960x-x79-performance,3026.html

This isn't final obviously, but from the preview the 3960k, let alone the 3930k, doesn't do that much better than current Sandy Bridge offerings, especially in gaming. In fact, the 2600k ties or beats it more often than not.

It's no where near enough extra juice, IMO, to justify the price difference in not only the cpu, but the motherboards and extra ram.

And a 580/570 SLI or 6970 Crossfire is plenty good. Kepler won't be out until March 2012 at the earliest (assuming no problems with TSMC). I don't think a 560ti will give you a pleasant experience with such a high resolution.

 

[togan]

You seem to have your mind made up, so why ask for help?

a 2500k is more than enough. If you want the extra threads go with a 2700k.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-3960x-x79-performance,3026.html

This isn't final obviously, but from the preview the 3960k, let alone the 3930k, doesn't do that much better than current Sandy Bridge offerings, especially in gaming. In fact, the 2600k ties or beats it more often than not.

It's no where near enough extra juice, IMO, to justify the price difference in not only the cpu, but the motherboards and extra ram.

And a 580/570 SLI or 6970 Crossfire is plenty good. Kepler won't be out until March 2012 at the earliest (assuming no problems with TSMC). I don't think a 560ti will give you a pleasant experience with such a high resolution.

Thanks for the input Soma42

I realize that the preview of the 3930k is not final product. But I have pretty much decided that is the CPU I want at the heart of this rig. And as for
570/580 SLI or 6970 Xfire...did you actually read my build needs/req.

Also I heard the 560ti when OC'd is on par with 570,plus the 2GB VRAM has gotta push it prolly past 570 (1280MB VRAM) at 2560x1440.

 

[Soma42]

If you want the 3930k for bragging rights or personal satisfaction or w/e that's cool, but from a price/performance standpoint I don't think I could ever get behind it. At this resolution, the CPU is almost out the picture, as far as gaming is concerned, and the GPU will be the bottleneck the majority of the time.

I did see you wanted to wait for the 680 GTX, hence my March 2012 comment. That's 5 months away, if not more, and there are some amazing games coming out in the next couple months I wouldn't want to wait for. The GTX 680 will in all likely-hood, have 20-30% better performance than the 580 and I don't think I could make it, but that's just me. I didn't see the no SLI part though.

It's true the 560ti can overclock to come close a 570, but even the 580 is usually throwing up less than 60 FPS at 2560x1600. You can also overclock the 570 or 580, just like the 560. More ram will help, but it really depends on the game as well. The GTX 580 leads in almost all of the benchmarks at 2560x1600, despite having 1.5 GB compared to the 6970's 2GB advantage.

My point is, that VRAM is important, but it's not everything. The 560ti in both reviews is only 1GB, but I can't see it getting that much higher FPS just because it has 2GB instead. At least, not to 45+ FPS in most games, which is what I consider acceptable.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_560_Twin_Frozr_II/8.html
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_560_Twin_Frozr_II/12.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-560-ti-gf114,2845-6.html

Do you have a review for the 2 GB model?

I couldn't find one and I would actually be interested to see what the difference is...

I assume you're going to sell the 560ti when you upgrade? If yes, why not get something that will perform a little better? A 580 or 570 will be much more enjoyable.

If not, and I know you don't like SLI, but there will be a pretty good price drop when the 680 comes out, which means getting a second one wouldn't be all that much more. SLI/Crossfire is the easiest way to get enough performance without upgrading every refresh cycle. Besides the slight issue with micro-stuttering, SLI is not that big of a hassle anymore. Profiles are usually available when a game comes out or are released pretty quickly.

But, hey man it's your money, get whatever makes you happy. My rule of thumb is to buy technology when you need it, not when you want it. There's always something better "just about to come out"... I bet Ivy Bridge (March as well) out performs Sandy Bridge-E and if you're waiting for the graphics card then why not wait for a better CPU as well?

 

[togan]

Soma42 you make some good arguements. However the 580 I was interested in (MSI N580GTX Lightning Extreme Edition) is $600,so I'll just make due with the $250 Ti for 5 months

I'll let you know how my games run using the 560Ti 2GB @2560x1440

As for Ivy Bridge,I don't want all that added on crap...besides,Haswell looks more promising

PS. As for the future of my Ti...I may or may not sell it...maybe use it as dedicated PhysX card



Togan

 

[togan]

So BLACK FRIDAY is almost here,I just need to finalize build compatability...and for that I'm gonna poll TH users.


CPU: Intel Core i7-3930k
HSF: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011
MOBO: ASUS SABERTOOTH X79
RAM: *This is where I need advice. My preferred brands are Crucial,Corsair,G.Skill,Kingston,Mushkin.
GPU: MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC
SSD: Crucial M4 128GB (3.5" drive adapter bracket) CT128M4SSD2BAA
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB
ODD: Pioneer BDR-206DBK
PSU: Seasonic Platinum-1000W
CASE: SilverStone FT02B w/USB 3.0,Air Penetrator Fans
KB: SteelSeries 7G
SURFACE: Artisan KAI.G3 Hein Hard Surface Medium Cloth Gaming Mouse Pad 320X250MM Wine Red *HIEN-HARD-R-M
MOUSE: Logitech G9X laser
MONITOR: Samsung LS27A850DS/ZA
UPS: Tripp Lite SU1000XLA
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Box

*Regarding RAM,will any module do? Does it have to be Quad Channel kit.
NEEDS to support INTEL XMP certified spec.
LOW VOLTAGE 1.25V-1.35V,LOW PROFILE (HUUGE HSF),LOW CAS LATENCY 6,7,8
I am not too worried on CAPACITY of dimms,2GB is OK. ie (2GBx4 Quad CH.KIT)
Speed/Frequency 1600Mhz-1866Mhz MAX. Would prefer to populate all 8 DIMM SLOTS


Thanks for your time,Togan

 

[Trist_58]

togan, assuming you have your new build together by now - what kind of performance are you getting with your 560Ti on the Samsung @ 2560 x 1440 ?

Also, have you found any serious back light bleeding on this display?
(Im planning on getting one soon to compliment my GTX 580 3GB)

Thanks.