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[New Build] $1400 dollar-ish PC mainly for BF3/other fps

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November 6, 2011 3:23:57 PM



What do you guys think for BF3? Do you think it will work fine or should i give or take from soem other components?

I'm knew to this and based on my research this is the best I can get for my budget I think. First computer in 6 years so it's a big upgrade :D 

Also just some standard corsair 2x4gb RAM that I did not include in that screenshot.

thanks!
November 6, 2011 3:38:28 PM

get something like cooler master for your case.(need proper ventilation)
great CPU
what RAM are you using?
I would suggest 8 GB DDR3 @ 1666MHz.
also for 400$ why not 2 GTX 560 Ti in SLi?
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November 6, 2011 3:51:02 PM

Yes that is the ram I'm getting and the 2 gtx 560 ti would cost me an extra $120 as I live in Australia and they are pretty expensive.

If I did want to spend the extra $120 would it better better to go for like a gtx580 do you think or?

By coolermaster do you mean a cpu cooler or like a whole system kit?
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November 6, 2011 4:12:47 PM

well 2 GTX 560 ti's will outperform one GTX 580 in most cases.
Get a cooler master case!
get the HAF series or something like that....
they will cost you around 60 US$!!!
and they are bloody awesome!
for 140$ and that case....people will call you stupid :p 
also do you really need those headphones?
get speakers.........better gaming experience.
Even I am getting Dual 560 Ti's for BF3 :D 
also 60 GB SSD will be too less....
you need at lease 120 gigs.


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November 7, 2011 12:59:42 AM

I saw the "audiophile" headphones. If you are indeed an audiophile, you should also get a sound card for some great audio from both BF3 and music. The sound card plugs into the PCI slots on the mobo.
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November 7, 2011 4:04:07 AM

roblaw42 said:
I saw the "audiophile" headphones. If you are indeed an audiophile, you should also get a sound card for some great audio from both BF3 and music. The sound card plugs into the PCI slots on the mobo.


What would you recommend, I have no idea about soundcards (computers for that matter). I don't want to put too much of my budget in a sound card if it won't make a noticeable difference relevant to the money I'm throwing at it.
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November 7, 2011 4:55:29 AM

madimakhi said:
well 2 GTX 560 ti's will outperform one GTX 580 in most cases.
Get a cooler master case!
get the HAF series or something like that....
they will cost you around 60 US$!!!
and they are bloody awesome!
for 140$ and that case....people will call you stupid :p 
also do you really need those headphones?
get speakers.........better gaming experience.
Even I am getting Dual 560 Ti's for BF3 :D 
also 60 GB SSD will be too less....
you need at lease 120 gigs.


I own the Cooler Master HAFX and it costs more than the Fractal case the OP lists. I disagree that the Fractal case is too expensive. My only concern about it is cooling.

If you want a case that has the look of the Fractal case but cools better you may want to look at the Corsair 650D. It is about the same price as the Fractal case and has many features that the Fractal case does not have.

I also think that you should go with a single 560Ti or a single 6950 for now because the Gen 3 GPUs will be coming out soon and they will have 2-3 times the bandwidth of the current PCI-E slots. Gen 2 GPUs will be outdated and outclassed compared the the Gen 3 GPUs.

For the cost that you list for the 750W PSU you may be able to pick up the Corsair HX 850W PSU which is a much better PSU. It was on sale at Newegg about 3 days ago for $125 USD. It is more efficient, has a 7-year warranty and is modular so you won't have a jumbled mess of cables in your case. I own it and it is a brilliant PSU.

Good luck with your build.
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November 7, 2011 5:09:30 AM

You might want to consider the Asrock Extreme 4 Gen 3 motherboard. I own it and I can recommend it.

Also you may be able to get a Seagate Barracuda V.12 cheaper than the Samsung F3 Spinpoint. I own the F3 and it is a great HDD but so is the Barracuda (get the V.12 not the V.11). Also, Seagate has come out with single platter 1TB drives and they are much faster than any current HDDs.

Don't get the 6970, they are overpriced and they will be obsolete in a few months.

Check out the AsRock Extreme 4 Gen 3 motherboard - it has some features that the Extreme 3 does not have. I own it and it is a very good board. Also Asus just came out with their Pro V Gen 3 board.
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November 7, 2011 5:25:12 AM

flong said:
I own the Cooler Master HAFX and it costs more than the Fractal case the OP lists. I disagree that the Fractal case is too expensive. My only concern about it is cooling.

If you want a case that has the look of the Fractal case but cools better you may want to look at the Corsair 650D. It is about the same price as the Fractal case and has many features that the Fractal case does not have.

I also think that you should go with a single 560Ti or a single 6950 for now because the Gen 3 GPUs will be coming out soon and they will have 2-3 times the bandwidth of the current PCI-E slots. Gen 2 GPUs will be outdated and outclassed compared the the Gen 3 GPUs.

For the cost that you list for the 750W PSU you may be able to pick up the Corsair HX 850W PSU which is a much better PSU. It was on sale at Newegg about 3 days ago for $125 USD. It is more efficient, has a 7-year warranty and is modular so you won't have a jumbled mess of cables in your case. I own it and it is a brilliant PSU.

Good luck with your build.


I'll think about the fractal vs coolermaster. The main concern I also have with the fractal case is cooling but the quietness appeals a lot to me. Also the Corsair 650D here in Australia is about 60 dollars more expensive.

When are these Gen 3 GPUs coming out roughly aswell? I'm not a hardcore enthusiast that upgrades his parts annually so I'd prefer something that lasted longer so it might be worth the wait.

That corsair 850 is also extremely expensive compared to the 750 :(  about 70 dollars more.
That newegg website is so cheap :S. I also don't want to wait too long to get a new pc since my current one is broken and outdated (6 years old, intel core 2 duo 2.4ghz, gtx9600) it had a good run though. I used it up until bfbc2 and mw2 but after that it couldn't keep up.
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November 7, 2011 6:00:08 AM

You could get another 560Ti and be just below $1,500. It would be good if you could do that. This is actually a build I was working on for myself.

Rosewill BLACKHAWK Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $100.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-2500K - $220.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock Z68 Extreme4 - $180.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Enermax ETS-T40 T.B.APOLLISH CPU Cooler - $44.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB - $270.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB - $140.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Crucial M4 64 GB SSD - $115.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $47.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill Xtreme Series RX750-S-B 750W Continuous @40°C ,80 PLUS Certified - $90.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $1206 (not including MIRs/Shipping)

Acouple things you could change to save money are:
CPU Cooler: Hyper 212+,
SSD/HDD: Get either a 32GB SSD or a 500GB HDD.
Mobo: There should be a $158 ASRock Z68 board as well
With just those savings alone you would still be able to fit another 560Ti and be around th 1.4k area
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November 7, 2011 6:11:36 AM

If you're going to go with Fractal for a case, get the Arc Midi. It's the newer version of the R3, essentially. USB 3.0 in front (meaning you might think of getting the AsRock extreme4 gen3 because it has inboard USB 3.0 header. The extreme 3 does not).

I recommend the Arc Midi for several reasons. First, the R3 has had problems with the size of the cut out on the motherboard tray. Some cooler backplates weren't able to fit. Secondly, the Arc Midi, despite not being a flashy case, has amazing cooling. comes with 3 140mm fans (front, top and back) with the option to put 5 more! And it has enough headroom above the mobo tray to install a decent sized 240mm radiator for water cooling. Here is a pretty thorough review of the case.

Good luck with your build!
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November 7, 2011 4:51:49 PM

Lavlol said:
I'll think about the fractal vs coolermaster. The main concern I also have with the fractal case is cooling but the quietness appeals a lot to me. Also the Corsair 650D here in Australia is about 60 dollars more expensive.

When are these Gen 3 GPUs coming out roughly aswell? I'm not a hardcore enthusiast that upgrades his parts annually so I'd prefer something that lasted longer so it might be worth the wait.

That corsair 850 is also extremely expensive compared to the 750 :(  about 70 dollars more.
That newegg website is so cheap :S. I also don't want to wait too long to get a new pc since my current one is broken and outdated (6 years old, intel core 2 duo 2.4ghz, gtx9600) it had a good run though. I used it up until bfbc2 and mw2 but after that it couldn't keep up.


Hi :) 

No one knows the dates that the Gen 3 GPUs will come out but it will probably be sometime after Ivy Bridge's release in the first quarter of 2012. Gen 3 motherboards are already released and so it is just a matter of time.

Make sure that you get the numbers right with the Corsair case, it is the 650D NOT the 800D. The 800D is a full tower and is much more expensive. Remember that ANY case that cools well will make more noise than a case with less fans and that has less venting. Great cooling cases have lots of fans and lots of venting - and so they make more noise. The 650D cools very well at low fan and it is very quiet on low fan. Note that the case has its own fan controller in it which is very convenient. The 650D goes on sale regularly here in the USA for 150 USD which puts it in the same price range as the Fractal case

In your price range take a look at the Arc mini that was recommended above, the Corsair 650D, the Cooler Master 690 II, the Corsair 400D and 500D cases and the Silverstone Raven 3 case. The Raven 3 and the 650D are probably the quietest cases and they cool very well. The only knock on the Raven 3 is that it is made mostly of plastic - but a LOT of builders love it. Make sure that you look at the Raven 3 not the older versions. The Raven 3 has several improvements and it cools very well and stays very quiet.

I own the 650D and I think that it is the best all around mid-tower (mid-sized case) on the market. It is beautiful, it has exceptional cable management, it requires no tools to build in it, it has quick release side panels, it has very high construction quality including brushed aluminum front, it has USB 3.0 front ports, it has a SATA III hot swap bay and it comes with huge top fans and front fans stock and you can add more.

Don't blow a lot of money on a 580 right now. The ATI 6950 is a rockin video card and you can get it for $200. It will play any games you want and when the Gen 3 GPUs come out you won't have to break the bank to get one because you will not have overspent on the outdated Gen 2 cards.

As far as the Corsair HX850, if you can wait a few weeks it will go on sale. Corsair PSUs go on sale regularly here in the USA - it is my guess that they also go on sale where you are at. I know that you are on a budget, but the HX850 is a much better PSU and it is warrantied for 7 years. Like a said in my previous post, it is not unusual to see it drop over 1/3 in price when it goes on sale.

I get that your PC is dead but if you can take a few weeks to buy your components you can save a LOT of money because about once a month nearly every component you need will go on sale at different times. I feel for you because my $1500 PC was stolen when my house was robbed and I was devastated. I was lucky that they did not take my old and slow PC because it got me through until I could replace my beautiful I-7 920 system with an I-7 2600K system. If you can wait for sales it will help you a lot.

DON"T get your motherboard and GPU until the last when you are ready to build your computer because you probably will have only 30 days to return them and you will want to make sure that both are working well within that 30 day period.

BTW, on your budget, you probably want to look at the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo CPU cooler because it is cheap. However if you can afford it you may want to look at the Noctua NH-D14 which is the best air cooler available. The D-14 is about twice the cost of the Hyper 212.

Let us know how it goes.

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November 7, 2011 4:59:56 PM

Emelth said:
You could get another 560Ti and be just below $1,500. It would be good if you could do that. This is actually a build I was working on for myself.

Rosewill BLACKHAWK Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $100.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-2500K - $220.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock Z68 Extreme4 - $180.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Enermax ETS-T40 T.B.APOLLISH CPU Cooler - $44.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II 2GD5/OC GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 2GB - $270.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB - $140.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Crucial M4 64 GB SSD - $115.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $47.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill Xtreme Series RX750-S-B 750W Continuous @40°C ,80 PLUS Certified - $90.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $1206 (not including MIRs/Shipping)

Acouple things you could change to save money are:
CPU Cooler: Hyper 212+,
SSD/HDD: Get either a 32GB SSD or a 500GB HDD.
Mobo: There should be a $158 ASRock Z68 board as well
With just those savings alone you would still be able to fit another 560Ti and be around th 1.4k area


Why would you spend $140 on an HDD? They are regularly on sale for $65-$75.

Also the Rosewell 750 PSU is not a great PSU and it costs $90 - note it is only rated for 40C which means it will run hot when pushed. For about $40 - $60 you can get the Corsair HX850 which is probably the highest rated 850W PSU on the market right now.

Also, I don't recommend that builders get the 64 MB SSDs because they fill up too quickly and 120GB SSDs can be bought on sale at smokin prices. About a week ago the Corsair Force 3 120GB SSD was on sale at Newegg for $109 after rebates.

The 560Ti you recommend is very good but it is expensive compared to a 1 GB 6950 or a 2GB 6950 and the performance is about equal. You can regularly get the 6950s for around $200 - $220 after rebates.

You made some good recommendations, the 2500K and your RAM selections are excellent. Keep up the good work.
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November 7, 2011 7:17:24 PM

@flong
HDD prices have shot through the roof because the factories in Thailand have been flooded. You are lucky to get 500 gb for under $100 now and $140 is average for 1 tb. There are a couple good prices around but they require extensive searching to find.
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November 7, 2011 7:34:35 PM

roblaw42 said:
@flong
HDD prices have shot through the roof because the factories in Thailand have been flooded. You are lucky to get 500 gb for under $100 now and $140 is average for 1 tb. There are a couple good prices around but they require extensive searching to find.


Thanks for the heads up. Here in the US they are still around $75 but that does not mean that they are the same price in Australia. You might check pricing on the Seagate Barracuda V.12 - they are usually very cheap here also and they are very good HDDs.
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November 7, 2011 7:40:28 PM

flong said:
Thanks for the heads up. Here in the US they are still around $75 but that does not mean that they are the same price in Australia. You might check pricing on the Seagate Barracuda V.12 - they are usually very cheap here also and they are very good HDDs.


I am in the US and check out these newegg links

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s - $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s - $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD10EALX 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s - $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Every company has raised their prices. Look an newegg, Amazon, tigerdirect, or microcenter and you will see the same thing everywhere.
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November 7, 2011 9:49:37 PM

What do you guys think about this; I grab a beast mobo and PSU and just some average parts and then wait until the gen 3 GFX cards come out. So I'd be looking about spending 1k in parts right now and when the Gen 3 comes out I'd spend about another 1k for a new gfx card and CPU?
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November 7, 2011 10:56:08 PM

Lavlol said:
What do you guys think about this; I grab a beast mobo and PSU and just some average parts and then wait until the gen 3 GFX cards come out. So I'd be looking about spending 1k in parts right now and when the Gen 3 comes out I'd spend about another 1k for a new gfx card and CPU?


OK here how it works. Gen 3 GPUs that can make use of the PCI-E 3.0 slots in the new Gen 3 motherboards will not work without an Ivy Bridge (Panther point) CPU. Does that make sense?

So, in order for you to take advantage of the PCI-E 3.0 slots in say an AsRock Extreme 4 Gen 3 motherboard like the one I own, I would have to replace my 2600K processor with a new Ivy Bridge CPU and I would have to buy a new Gen 3 video card.

REMEMBER that your case (if it supports USB 3.0) and your PSU won't matter as far as Gen 3 upgrades - they will work for both Gen 2 components and Gen 3 components. This is probably true of most CPU coolers also.


Also REMEMBER that Ivy Bridge is slated to come out in January which is not too long from now. If you can wait until then, that is your best option to get the most current computer components.

So what should you do now for $1000 if you want to buy now and not wait for Ivy Bridge. Here's my suggestion:

1. CPU: 2500K $200
2. GPU: ATI 6950 $200 (get the 1 GB card if it is cheaper -the 6950 comes in 1 GB and 2 GB sizes)
3. PSU: Corsair HX850 $175
4. CPU Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo: $35
5. Case: Corsair 650D $175
6. RAM: Gskill or Corsair 1600 2 x 4GB $60
7. Optical DVD Drive: Asus $20
8. Motherboard: AsRock Extreme 4 Gen 3 $180
9. HDD: Seagate Barracuda V.12 1 TB or Samsung Spinpoint F3 $75

Total without Windows 7 operating system = $1085

This will give you a very fast gaming computer and when Ivy Bridge comes out you can change the CPU and the GPU to upgrade your computer when you wish. From the wording on AsRock's site, the Extreme 4 Gen 3 IS compatible with Ivy Bridge CPUs and so you will not have to replace it.

This system kind of gives you the best of both worlds but the down side is that you have to buy two GPUs and two CPUs. However, even if you don't upgrade the above system is wicked fast. If you do upgrade you will only be out the $400 that you spent on the 2500K and the ATI 6950.

I hope that makes sense to you. Since we are only about two months away from the release of Ivy Bridge, you may want to wait if you can. While you are waiting you can look for great sales on the HX850, the RAM and the 1TB HDD.

Good luck with your build.

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