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November 7, 2011 3:58:39 PM

ok so i need help on build

budget:2000$

build ETA:black friday

i dont really care if i pick the amd or the intel and GPU is hard to chose lol

OC:yes i want 5Ghz in OC will be nice

MOBO a 3gen MOBO as rock asus??

case HAF x ? ppl say is good ??

should i get SSD? for boot?





extra cooment when u sugest GPU but the modeal name and from EVGA-MSi etc etc



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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
November 7, 2011 4:48:40 PM

Hard to gauge what black Friday prices are going to be or what's going to be sold - but the high end stuff never gets discounted so keep that in mind.

Absolutely get an SSD - not only does it make booting easier but it will not erase but decrease heavy loads in resource hungry games like BF3 and Skyrim by at least 50%.

I don't think you'll be able to get 5GHz on this setup but 4.5GHz is easily achievable:

Try this build:

Case: Corsair Carbide 500R - $129.99
PSU: PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKII 950W - $149.99
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3P - $179.99
CPU: 3.30GHz Intel Core i5-2500K - $219.99
Cooler: Corsair H100 - $119.99
RAM: 8GB (2 x 4GB) Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz 1.5V - $41.99
SSD: 128GB Crucial M4 - $219.99
HD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $149.99 :ouch: 
Optical: LG Super Multi - $79.99
Video card: EVGA Geforce GTX 570 - $339.99
Keyboard/Mouse: Logitech MK260 - $28.99
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium - $99.99
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.6" 1080p - $179.99

Total: $1971.99
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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
November 7, 2011 4:53:21 PM

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5.0ghz is left for only the best air coolers and is by no means easy to acheive on any cpu of the 1155 socket.


Air???? I think anything beyond 4+ would be difficult to achieve with an air cooler, even crazy liquid cooling setups - it'd be difficult to achieve anything beyond 4.5. I mean that one AMD configuration they only got to 8+ by using an experimental helium cooling configuration - something that's not available to the general public yet.
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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
November 7, 2011 5:02:13 PM

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I did 5.1ghz on my i5 with my noctua, so yes it is doable.
However this clock is what 10% of users can get to, i was lucky...


That's insane - I didn't know that was possible with an air cooler, shows you what I know! :lol: 
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November 7, 2011 6:52:25 PM

pft me and my friend did 5.5Ghz with Lquid nitrogine he's rich XD is was -128 belwo 0 lol but the pc is uglay he but a big tupe around the cpu but lquid in it

but i dont want a ugly pc so yah 5ghz is Overkill thats what i want lol
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November 7, 2011 6:55:49 PM

BTW ill be glad if i can max out BF3 he he he

BTW the monitor no need i have FHD 1080p 32inch 1920x1200 i think so yah and ill get sony playstion 3d tv 498$ !!!! o_O

To say i have windows 7 disc right hear win 7 ultimate so yah 64 bit

to say the MOBO is pci 2 wich means? the asrock is FTW ? right so i dont have to change MOBO? the GA ud will spourt ivy but will not be able to run the nvidia 24nm GPU AKA GTX600

Corsair Force 3 120 GB SATA 3 SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive

is it bad i save 365$?

ok so that cse is better then HAF x ? and is it better then 600t crosair?

still need to chose GPU and case and im done lol
plus PSU :p 

lol 14 fan case WTF !!!!? how will i connect that? lol

but in minde that black friday is cheap friday so yah old parts will be cheap so yah i can sli 3 570 ! ? mype or evan 2 way sli 580 wich ill do if i can so i can 3 way L8ter
so yah i think 2 way sli 570 should do? from msi the must expansive one's hear
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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
November 7, 2011 7:37:41 PM

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to say the MOBO is pci 2 wich means? the asrock is FTW ? right so i dont have to change MOBO? the GA ud will spourt ivy but will not be able to run the nvidia 24nm GPU AKA GTX600


I'm not sure that will make much of a difference. The 600s should still be PCI-e x2.0 for now, if you want to be future proof for sure go for one of the new Asus or MSI boards with PCI-e x3.0 built in it, they shouldn't run you that much more.

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ok so that cse is better then HAF x ? and is it better then 600t crosair?


I have the 600T - it's a nice case but it is BIG, so is the HAF X - the Carbide is half the size but still has the same interior room and cable management system as the 600T.

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Corsair Force 3 120 GB SATA 3 SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive


Good choice but I've heard this drive has a lot of BSOD issues. I'd stick with the Crucial M4, but if you wanted to get something else go with Plextor, Samsung, or Intel.

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lol 14 fan case WTF !!!!? how will i connect that? lol


What case has 14 fans? Most usually give you two or three with the option to connect more, I don't even think that Silverstone PSU has enough connectors for 14 case fans... :lol: 

Try these:

Case:

Antec Lanboy Air: http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/11-129-091-T...$S300W$
Corsair Carbide 400R: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
NZXT Phantom: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU:

Seasonic X850 Gold: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKII: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair HX850: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video:

EVGA Geforce GTX 570: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 7, 2011 7:42:05 PM

IDC how huge the case is as long as i can fit H100 cooler but if i go with push-pull HAF x wins right? and Asrock is bad?
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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
November 7, 2011 7:57:44 PM

holyrage said:
IDC how huge the case is as long as i can fit H100 cooler but if i go with push-pull HAF x wins right? and Asrock is bad?


Nothing against Asrock. I'm thinking of buying their 990FX based board. What I'm saying is that if you for sure want to be future proof (SATA 6, USB 3, PCI-e x 3.0, etc) then go with Gigabyte, MSI, or Asus. With Asrock I'm not sure any of their boards have caught up with the technology yet.

As far as being able to mount a cooler like the H100 - the top of whatever case you choose has to be able to support a radiator with 2 x 120 mm fans. With some cases you will have to remove whatever top fan is included - most are around 200mm - and install the cooler that way. You definitely want to check the layout of your case - especially the top mounting brackets - before buying the H100.
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November 7, 2011 8:26:50 PM

go to asrock and cheak the z68 bords see the extreme 7 gen 3 or fitalty gen3 best bords they made so far be for the asrock was dumb pice of shi* now they are better then ga for me ill go for asus asrock or msi tho iknow nothing about them but the asus gen-z/gen3 is 2 way sli?? y the fuc* DO THAY TO TAHT! Q.Q i like it but it is 2 way only Q.Q so that leave's me to cheak msi ill be back btw the haf x can use h100 with psuh pull set up u use 2x 200m and 120x4 fans for the radiator wich means cold radiator?? or should i go with the 600t since u know how to use it ?
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November 7, 2011 8:32:18 PM

g-unit1111 said:
That's insane - I didn't know that was possible with an air cooler, shows you what I know! :lol: 


It shows you how good Noctuas are ;) 
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November 7, 2011 8:37:36 PM

hhhh ur shiting* me 500$ for a mobo? hahahahh o_O
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November 7, 2011 8:54:23 PM

if i get that mobo dos it have any lan speeder's like asrock ftialty gen3 or extreme7 gen3 ?

so yah hear are the bords ill chose

msi big bang or asrock fitalty mobo or extreme7 gen 3 as rock so wich is better

then cohse psu

case is haf x

GPU 570 3 way sli or 580 2 way sli if they get cheaper on balck friday

and the rest rams dvd player SSD HHD leave it on me
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November 7, 2011 9:05:41 PM

ok and what psu will my 2 and ill get a therd l8ter 580 GTX ? and after that ill but my final and u guys look it up see if it is good and then after 13 days ill buy it so yah i got 13 day's to go back and change something
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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
November 7, 2011 9:11:14 PM

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Yup and my Noctua is only small :ange: 


It's not the size but how you use it. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 

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msi big bang or asrock fitalty mobo or extreme7 gen 3 as rock so wich is better


It looks like the big bang is a P67 - the Fatality is Z68 - go with the Z68 board.

The HAF X will definitely be able to support the H100 - there's plenty of mounting spaces on the top and it looks like it has some good cable management at that.

holyrage said:
ok and what psu will my 2 and ill get a therd l8ter 580 GTX ? and after that ill but my final and u guys look it up see if it is good and then after 13 days ill buy it so yah i got 13 day's to go back and change something


One of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 7, 2011 9:22:38 PM

so the big bang is bum bum after all ah NVM both are good but will the asrock OC will BTW im makeing my list in amazone rigth now >:D 
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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
November 7, 2011 9:26:42 PM

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The big bang is an enthusiast class motherboard with bandwidth to throw at you here there and everywhere.
I would choose this over the asrock for sheer full x16 lanes in tri-SLi


It's a good board but it's still a P67, the Z68 is what you want if you want to be future proof.
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November 7, 2011 9:29:22 PM

if i want to 2 way sli wich will get me 145 fps on 2 way sli 580 gtx on 16x-16x on asrock but when i 3 way it switch's to 16x-8x-8x so yah psu cooler master 1200w cheap and the best psu they ever made or the 1050ax crosair
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November 7, 2011 9:33:54 PM

ok amazone us dosnt sell it argh im forced to go with the extreme 7 gen 3 the only difrance is that it is v8 not v12 engine XD
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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
November 7, 2011 9:34:38 PM

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Just my 2 quid...
3-way SLi bandwidth is what i was concentrating on but yes z68 is more future proof due to gen3.


Ah that makes sense. If that were the case I'd recommend the EVGA P67 FTW series over anything else he has so far. It's one of the easiest boards on the market to overclock your CPU, video card, and so on.

And I second the recommendation of the Corsair AX.
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November 7, 2011 9:48:36 PM

isnt that old? it is G2 it i not future proof yes i my self i like future proof a lot i want to be future proof as much as i can
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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
November 7, 2011 10:21:31 PM

holyrage said:
isnt that old? it is G2 it i not future proof yes i my self i like future proof a lot i want to be future proof as much as i can


Well the reason I recommend the FTW series is that there's no other manufacturer out there that makes anything remotely comparable. EVGA's tech support is among the best in the business. With the FTW series - you can overclock either in the BIOS or via UEFI with like a few clicks and you're done. And they give you everything but the kitchen sink with these boards - you get front mounting USB bracket, all kinds of utilities, and that sort of thing, even their thermal grease. Check it out:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 7, 2011 10:40:51 PM

yah tha ascrok heat sink look's like a kitchen knife lol

ok so they have a ftw z68 BTW so what now i switch from asrock to it? ok boss ! lol

no to the gpu in thes case IDK wich one argh if i can 2 way sli 580's ill be happy lol thears like 27 580's on amazone from 500to 700 !!! the 560 ti have a lil issue lol they cant seem to run good on BF3 they lag to much so yah i need from 570 -580-590

BTW z68 or P68

and will it fit in my crosair 500r?
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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
November 7, 2011 10:44:26 PM

If you're gonna go all out, that's the motherboard I'd recommend over anything else - and get the Z68 FTW if they have it. It'll run a bit more but it's worth it in the long run.
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November 7, 2011 10:53:41 PM

pk finaly W/O GPU

EVGA z68 mobo FTW

windows 7 home pru 64 bit

NZXT sentry 2 fan controller

corsair 1050W psu

I5 2500k

Logitech Wireless Combo MK260 with Keyboard and Mouse

LG Super Multi Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD-ROM Drive



Samsung Desktop Class Spinpoint F3 1 TB SATA 3.0



Crucial 128 GB m4 for boot and for BF3



Corsair Vengeance Low Profile 8 GB low profile my friend have big one's and they suck they take to much space


Corsair Carbide Series 500R White Mid Tower Gaming Case IDK if it is good but if i should pick onther case NP at all just tell me the case name it wont fir for the mobo i better go 800d or HAF x
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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
November 7, 2011 11:00:44 PM

Yes that is a much much much better setup. You'll like the Carbide. I have the Graphite 600T and it's easily the best case I've ever owned - upgrading drives, cable management, installing coolers, everything is so much easier on the Corsairs than anything else.
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November 7, 2011 11:09:51 PM

ill go get sleep for 5H so yah is the z68 fte pci 3.0 and ivy bridge spuort i need haf x for the mobo btw
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November 8, 2011 8:21:18 AM

i was reading about it and all GPU's on 16x mod O_O but they didnt talk about ivy bridge cpu i gusse with a bios update it will work what about nvidia pci 3.0?

edit: u can Overclook esaly on asrock to 4.7 so easy

lol a noob can OC on asus with no swet ! but agine they fail i think ill go with 2 way sli 570's or 80's and the mobo will be asrock i dont wory about cpu my prentium 3ghz is at 92c ATM -_- and is runing fine for the past 5 yers !

edit: just watched a vid on how to OC with asrock it was 2 mnts-56 secs to 5ghz staple with voltage on 1.45 and multi on 50 and it was 20C lower then my pentium with hyper 212 plus so ill be on 60C on load with H100

so yah hears my gpu's twin msi 570GTX or twin 580 if they get cheaper

MOBO asrock it is future proof
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November 8, 2011 10:37:37 AM

g-unit1111 said:
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to say the MOBO is pci 2 wich means? the asrock is FTW ? right so i dont have to change MOBO? the GA ud will spourt ivy but will not be able to run the nvidia 24nm GPU AKA GTX600


I'm not sure that will make much of a difference. The 600s should still be PCI-e x2.0 for now, if you want to be future proof for sure go for one of the new Asus or MSI boards with PCI-e x3.0 built in it, they shouldn't run you that much more.

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ok so that cse is better then HAF x ? and is it better then 600t crosair?


I have the 600T - it's a nice case but it is BIG, so is the HAF X - the Carbide is half the size but still has the same interior room and cable management system as the 600T.

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Corsair Force 3 120 GB SATA 3 SATA 6.0 Gb-s 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive


Good choice but I've heard this drive has a lot of BSOD issues. I'd stick with the Crucial M4, but if you wanted to get something else go with Plextor, Samsung, or Intel.

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lol 14 fan case WTF !!!!? how will i connect that? lol


What case has 14 fans? Most usually give you two or three with the option to connect more, I don't even think that Silverstone PSU has enough connectors for 14 case fans... :lol: 

cheak the last case it is awesome !!!!

Try these:

Case:

Antec Lanboy Air: http://images17.newegg.com/is/image/newegg/11-129-091-T...$S300W$
Corsair Carbide 400R: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
NZXT Phantom: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU:

Seasonic X850 Gold: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PC Power & Cooling Silencer MKII: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair HX850: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video:

EVGA Geforce GTX 570: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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November 8, 2011 12:12:50 PM

ok hear is my final set up with GPU

PSU 1050W for future proof OFC

CASE i like cases thats look like an aline space ship (NZXT Phantom !) cheaper better and can do push pull what u want more then that?

rams crosair low profile 8gb ram 2sticks

GPU msi III flow 570 in sli IDK how much i can spent lol will see after 11 days or 580's from asus matrix is super nice and a have a sfae thingy coz im only good at OC CPU's

thes 580 if EVGA one's is better then ok ! (ASUS ROG Platinum Video Card MATRIX GTX580 P/2DIS/1536MD5 )

MOBO extreme7 gen3 then fatality is unavilaple

crucial M4 120GB bot SSD

samsung F3 1TB :o 

LG multi blue-ray-DVD

Logitech Wireless Combo MK260 (and my wierd 360 controoler)

H100 (will do push pull)

and NZXT 2 fan controller

and BF3 thats my shoping cart XD

total:2331 o_O -20%=1865 some parts will only get extra 5% some parts will be 30 so on so on will see :lol: 

note: 2331 is with the 580 GPU's they are out of stock now wich sucks so i have to fiend other GPU's

or mype 2 GTX 580 3gb :o  wouldint that be epic? will ill hit BF3 FPS max cap :p  lol 200FPS :o  with 2 of thes if they get a bit cheaper ill buy 2 if they dont then ill dumb them get the EVGA DS or Asus platinum tho it is my best 2nd choise

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November 8, 2011 1:07:37 PM

i better do the fallowing i get 1 GTX580 3gb wich im sure will run like a 590GTX since on the 590 u only use 1 prossecor lol so the 2scound one is not runing at all evan at BF3 so yah i get 1 3gb 580 then onthor one and a onther 1 till a hit 3 they will usw 1200W so i better fiend a 1200-1500W psu so i never have to change
psu's
edit i dont need over 1200 wats all i need is 1000W W/O Overclook so in my case ill get 1200W antec HCp or corsair ill pick up OCz instade of M4 crucial it is cheaper and ill go for 60gb to but more money tward the GPU cards

Edit: now at amazone they have the msi G3 whow cheaper beter kick ass and a bugatti engine (v16) :lol: 
ho dosnt like to kick ass?
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a c 92 B Homebuilt system
November 8, 2011 3:10:41 PM

Most fan controllers are pretty worthless - you might want to skip that.

And EVGA is definitely a better choice than Asus is for video cards.
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November 8, 2011 5:35:22 PM

ty man u helped me all way long ill give best answer ! :lol:  will IDK but as lil as 5% on evrything they have on amazone will be super BTW is thear any capels wier's i should order? to connecnt stuff to mobo and will the 60gb SSD be enogh to get windows7 in it with Bf3 wich i gusse yah since 7 is not 32 gb like fail vista it is 16gb FTW ! will the case come's with a fan controller so yah i might not need that as well hear's what im buying the's is full update

EVGA GTX590 3gb

SSD 60gb reads 550mb sec write 545MB sec super !

HHD F3 1TB more then enoght

xbox 360 controller for pc windows ill need that for sure

rams 8gb low profile 2x sticks 4x2

MSI !!!! MSI Intel Z68 (B3) Chipset ATX DDR3 1066 Intel - LGA 1155 Motherboards Z68A-GD80 (G3) relly B3 (G3? lol DW it is G3 not B3

PSU is out of stock so i better go with antec HCP 1200w right? main psu(corsair)1200w

NZXT Crafted Series ATX Full Tower Steel Chassis - Phantom White (black and white for modren tuoch !

NZXT Technologies FX 140LB Computer Case (Black/White) for extra fan slot on case(1)

NZXT 200mm Performance Case Fan FN 200RB (Black/White) sam as above on extra on top and side (2of em)

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64bit (Full) System Builder DVD 1 Pack got all what i need

LG Super Multi Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD-ROM Drive

Logitech Wireless Combo MK260 with Keyboard and Mouse nice keybord-mouse tho ill use my conttroller for gaming so yah

Corsair Hydro Series H100 Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler (since im going with msi ill hit 5ghz no sweet)

NZXT SENTRY 2 Accessories 5.25-Inch Touch Screen Fan Controller (Black) it will controller up to 5 fans wich ill be installing L8ter y i need it? will since ill disaple the safe mode on my core i5 2500k i need some on to till me when im reching a high temp wich will run fans contected to the controller at 100% until the temps are down so yah it isnt that much uselees lol iknow that core i5 will handel 100C if my old pentium can do 92C and still working for 5 yers?

ppls that really helped me hear

384-BiT

and

g-unit1111
u guys are the best :) 

total cost:1,934.39 -5%=1838 wich is awesome coz discount's will get evan more then 5% if they did ill buy a 24" icnh monitor so i dont have to but the pc in my brother room he have the tv -_-''
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November 8, 2011 5:37:03 PM

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