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Build for WOW at MAX FPS with 32inc HDTV monitor.

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November 7, 2011 4:04:16 PM

*EDIT* This build takes into account the recommendations of many and personal preferences of those already in the thread. Also, I plan to use a 32inch HDTV as my monitor since it is laying around the house. Will this pose any issues with my build?

Budget Range: $1200 - 1600

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming(World of Warcraft & Diablo 3), School Work

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, And Monitor

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com or tigerdirect.com

Country of Origin: US

Parts Preferences: I have always been an Intel chip fan. As for Motherboards, I prefer ASUS but I'm open to other brands. Graphics Card? I guess EVGA.

Overclocking: Possibly.

SLI or Crossfire: Possible in the future.

Monitor Resolution: Using a 32inc HDTV so I assume max at 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I would like the system to last for at least 3-5 years without needing to upgrade. The previous system I had was bought when quad core processors first came out and has done well up to now (~4years).


Processor: Intel i5 2500 Sandy Bridge: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- $219.99

CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 EVO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-$34.99

Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V Pro : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- $209.99

Memory: GSkill 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- Seems decent and not expensive. $46.99

Graphics Card: EVGA GTX 580: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- This is the 1.5Gb...is it worth 100 dollars extra for the 3GB?. $499.99

Hard Drive: OCZ 120GB SATA SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- HD are overpriced right now? $189.99

DVD Drive: ASUS 12X BD-R 2x BD-RE 16x DVD+R 12x DVDRAM 8x BD- ROM 8MB Cache SATA Blu-ray Burner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-I really don’t need a Blu-ray player but because I want it to last, I’d rather have it then be behind the times 3 years from now. $99.99

Case: Corsair Carbide Series 400R: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- Roomy! $99.99.

PSU: CORSAIR Professional Series HX850 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- In Case I SLI. $189.99

Total Expected price = $1591.91

Please comment as I plan to get this tomorrow due to black friday deals. Thanks!
November 7, 2011 4:13:33 PM

DaNegotiator said:
First of all, greetings to the entire tom’s hardware community. I have been reading many posts about gaming systems and am excited about the help and insight people provide. Thus, I have decided to post a build of my own and hope for some constructive feedback.

At first, I was going to buy a system from Ibuypower.com, but after reading about the different things people have said, I may be paying for TOO much stuff and it would be overkill. However, this would be the first time I have ever fully put a computer together. So, I am worried that if I put one together, I may mess it up and totally waste all the money I spent. That being said, I am not computer hardware illiterate and have installed many hardware related components on my old computer such as graphics card, power supply, memory, and sound card. I have seen many tutorials online that seem to be fool proof.

So, I will list the specs as if I am going to be making the computer myself and it would be great to have the community comment on whether it would be better to have someone build it for me or I should build it myself. Also, of course, commenting on the system specs I choose is greatly appreciated.

Approximate Purchase Date: The next few weeks (hoping for Black Friday deals)

Budget Range: $1000 - 1500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, School Work

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, And Monitor

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com or tigerdirect.com

Country of Origin: US

Parts Preferences: I have always been an Intel chip fan. As for Motherboards, I prefer ASUS but I'm open to other brands. Graphics Card? I guess EVGA.

Overclocking: Not so interested in it. If it does not perform to optimum settings as factory set then I am not interested in it.

SLI or Crossfire: Having dual cards would be great but I don’t think I have the money for it right now.

Monitor Resolution: I will buy a monitor that can handle 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I would like the system to last for at least 3-5 years without needing to upgrade. The previous system I had was bought when quad core processors first came out and has done well up to now (~4years).


Processor: Intel i5 2500 Sandy Bridge: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- I was originally going to use one of the 6-Core i7 processors, but after reading a lot of reviews, basically it seems like these processors offer little to no improvement for gaming, so I decided to stick with Sandy Bridge. $219.99

Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V Pro : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- This motherboard was listed as editor’s choice from tech report. So, figured it was good to pick. $209.99

Memory: GSkill 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- Seems decent and not expensive. $46.99

Graphics Card: EVGA GTX 570: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- Heard this one was of the best cards that you can play World of Warcraft at Max settings and still receive Max FPS. $339.99

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- Is it worth it to pay the extra bucks for a 6.0Gb/s drive? Or even a 64MB cache? $149.99

DVD Drive: ASUS 12X BD-R 2x BD-RE 16x DVD+R 12x DVDRAM 8x BD- ROM 8MB Cache SATA Blu-ray Burner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

-I really don’t need a Blu-ray player but because I want it to last, I’d rather have it then be behind the times 3 years from now. $99.99

Case: COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
- I really am not sure about this one. I just saw someone say this was a decent tower, so I am picking it by default. $89.99.

PSU: Cooler Master 600 Watt: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- Same with the Case, I think this should be more than efficient for power and everything. Plus its SLI Certified. $109.99

Total Expected price = $1266.92

Well, what do you think? Should I add or change anything? Will I need a cooling system specifically for the CPU? Again, thank you for your time and patience. Look forward to reading and replying to the comments.



It's a huge waste of money if it's only for WoW. You can pretty much max it with playable fps @ 1920 x 1080 with a 700$ PC and keep the rest for upgrades ;) 
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November 7, 2011 4:24:59 PM

Hey Michxymi,

Thank you for your reply. When you say max it with playable FPS, are you saying the max 60fps? Currently I play on my laptop that has a i7 processor Geforce330 1GM and I can play wow on Ultra with no problems. I would hate to make a desktop and it be a downgrade from my laptop. Thus, that is why I would like a nice desktop build that can play at max. It is possible I will play other games, but right now, this is my heavily played game. And you say $700. I would be very curious as to what you are proposing that would get Ultra/Max settings and still run with 60FPS.
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November 7, 2011 4:26:14 PM

you only need to expend like $500 to max wow
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November 7, 2011 4:29:55 PM

Hey Makafri,

Thanks for the reply. When you say $500, are you saying total? It would be great if you listed some specifics so I have an idea instead of throwing out a number. If that is possible to playmax wow at said amount, I would love to know exactly how.

Also editted the orignal post to include Diablo 3 as I will have that when it comes out.
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November 7, 2011 4:54:15 PM

I always see posts about how easy it is to max WoW, yet see friends $500 computers display slide shows when the gates open in Alterac Valley and 40 players rush out.......

I think the system you have listed looks great, and will keep you at 60fps and above even during 40 man raid group pvp matches.

For the cpu cooler, I recommend the CM 212 EVO. Great cooler and great price.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I prefer Corsair PSU's, but would assume CM PSU's are good. I use that exact CM case myself, and love it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

I also like the MSI twin frozr cards, worth a look.......

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 7, 2011 5:02:05 PM

Oh, and although I use the exact CM 690 II adv case you have picked, I would consider the newest Corsair case that's within the price range. It looks comparable, and pretty darn nice, and the mobo mount cutout for cpu cooler mounting looks to be bigger and easier to work with.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 7, 2011 5:03:52 PM

Hey Thrakazog,

Thank you so much for your reply. You and I share the same exact thoughts. I have friends that have the $700 systems and crash when tons of AOE damage goes out. And I really appreciate your suggestions. I will strongly consider those as the price difference between the ones I have are not that much. Also, people have been mentioning that SDD drives are the way to go and not normal hard drives. What do you think? Again, thanks for the helpful links and suggestions.
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November 7, 2011 5:11:14 PM

Bah, I need my coffee to wake up....

As to your HD question....

The 6gbs isn't a big deal for a spindle drive, but the 64mb cache is. Since most of the 64mb cache drives are 6gbs connect anyways.....

The only thing that sucks right now is the flooding in Thailand forcing the huge hardrive price increase.

I got a Hitachi Deskstar 1.5TB 6gb/s 64mb cache drive for $60 a few months ago.....

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November 7, 2011 5:14:13 PM

<3 Thanks for the info. Thats disappointing that they are that expensive. I guess, since I didn't know any better, that it was normal. I wonder if the typical stores are affected. I could have sworn I saw a similiar drive in store for about $100.
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November 7, 2011 5:14:35 PM

Was posting the previous hard drive post when you posted yours =P

The only thing an SSD adds to games is faster loading times. Does nothing to improve performance.

I will say that SSD's are nice for having things load quicker, or for programs to start quicker, faster windows loads, etc......

But, if you can endure the extra 6-8 seconds for WoW to load up, you can save a few hundred bucks.
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November 7, 2011 5:17:49 PM

You can shop around for Hard drives, and maybe find better prices. Just be sure to get one you're comfortable with brand wise. Get whatever size you need, and try to get a 64mb cache one if you can.

The Hitachi I got was probably the cheapest there was, even then, which is why I got it. Comparable West Digital and Seagate drives averaged $100+, so on average, I'm seeing drives that were around $100 gor for $150 now.
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November 7, 2011 5:30:19 PM

Ugh, the extra $50 on drives sucks.....

I shopped around for you to see what prices were like. IF you decide to go with a 64mb cache drive, these seemed like the best options....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Edit: BTW, if you see a drive with specs and price that look to good to be true, make sure it's not a 5900rpm drive instead of 7200rpm.

I saw a couple 64mb cache drives with a low price and was excited, until I saw the 5900rpm. DO NOT get a 5900 rpm drive.
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November 7, 2011 5:31:24 PM

8 second load time?! Pfff, no problem. I am not that impatient :D  I just care about the slideshow game performance. I can deal with startup times. I will look around for the best 64mb cache i can find. With all the things that I have mentioned and your additions/upgrades, is building this thing myself gonna prove a challenge? AKA, this would be the first FULL building. I have helped build others but never my own. Again, the tutorials online appear to be foolproof. I am just worried that if something happens that I have no refund policy or insurance since I built it myself.
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November 7, 2011 5:32:59 PM

thrakazog said:
Ugh, the extra $50 on drives sucks.....

I shopped around for you to see what prices were like. IF you decide to go with a 64mb cache drive, these seemed like the best options....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Ugh...that is a huge jump. That's insane that the flooding caused that. But, that price increase is nothing compared to what they are going through right now.
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November 7, 2011 5:39:00 PM

The first build will be intersting, but easily doable. You will probably make all the first time builder mistakes, but you will get thru it :) 

My son just built his first machine, and he survived. Let me find the links to some great vids.......

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls&feature=relm...

3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok&feature=relm...

Tips - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7wOl7XS4ps&feature=relm...

This is a great series to watch to get some idea of how to build it.
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November 7, 2011 5:41:48 PM

- Are you close to a Microcenter store? Right now, the i5-2500k + Asus P8Z68-V Pro combines for $330+tax.
- Consider dropping RAM and PSU for this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Corsair quality modular PSU + 16GB of RAM for $170 AR. Sell 8GB for $40 on eBay/Craigslist to cut cost.
- If you don't over clock, stock cooler should be fine. Otherwise, CM Hyper 212 EVO is good choice.
- Case: consider CM HAF 922 (spacious) or Corsair 400R (clean).
- I think 600w for GTX 570 SLI is cutting it close.
- Need OS? ~$100
- If you can live with just OS and WoW + D3 for a while, consider SSD now and picking up HDD when things settle in Thailand.
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November 7, 2011 6:20:32 PM

thrakazog said:
The first build will be intersting, but easily doable. You will probably make all the first time builder mistakes, but you will get thru it :) 

My son just built his first machine, and he survived. Let me find the links to some great vids.......

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls&feature=relm...

3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok&feature=relm...

Tips - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7wOl7XS4ps&feature=relm...

This is a great series to watch to get some idea of how to build it.

Perfect! I will check those out!!!
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November 7, 2011 6:27:12 PM

steadywaters said:
- Are you close to a Microcenter store? Right now, the i5-2500k + Asus P8Z68-V Pro combines for $330+tax.
- Consider dropping RAM and PSU for this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Corsair quality modular PSU + 16GB of RAM for $170 AR. Sell 8GB for $40 on eBay/Craigslist to cut cost.
- If you don't over clock, stock cooler should be fine. Otherwise, CM Hyper 212 EVO is good choice.
- Case: consider CM HAF 922 (spacious) or Corsair 400R (clean).
- I think 600w for GTX 570 SLI is cutting it close.
- Need OS? ~$100
- If you can live with just OS and WoW + D3 for a while, consider SSD now and picking up HDD when things settle in Thailand.


Excellent question. I live about 5 hours away from one but my buddy lives there. Maybe it would be worth it to get hom to buy it and have him ship it to me. With respect to the overclocking, I would do it only if it made a significant difference in performance and FPS. And, if it was a "do it once and forget about it". I have seen so many videos and posts about people having to constantly monitor and change the settings and voltages due to issues. So, I get a little scared. That combo buy is very interesting and I may consider it. I was worried about the PSU, so I may have to increase it to be safe. As for the OS, I can get it for cheap as a student/faculty. Like 60-70 dollars for windows 7 professional. Thanks for the great insight!
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November 9, 2011 2:13:44 PM

To those who have read this thread and those who are reading it now, I pose a new question. With the suggestions and posed build spec, how does it compare to the deal of the day listed at ibuypower.com? I am very tempted to jump on this. It would technically save me from building it and have the majority of coponents I would want. Here is the link: http://www.ibuypower.com/Store/Deal_of_the_Day

I can easily upgrade the graphics card and still be under $1000 dollars. i5k, 8gb ram, decent motherboard, liquid cooling system, all the OS. Am I missing something as to why this is not a good deal!?

Edit: I guess what I am asking is that will this system run WOW at max FPS? The system i proposed would, I dont see why this one would not.
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November 9, 2011 4:26:23 PM

Editted the original post so people could follow it easier.
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November 9, 2011 6:19:51 PM

The only thing I tend to worry about is quality when purchasing pre-built systems. The cheaper prices often are a result of an 800watt power supply made by Hasbro or some such. It does look like a nice deal, and there's a chance nothing will go wrong with it.

As far as buying a system, about the only company I trust and recommend is Digital Storm. They have excellent service and support, and use all quality parts. Here's a link so you can check them out......

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadode.asp?id=58...
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November 9, 2011 6:38:33 PM

Thanks Thrakazog for your reply and insight. You do make a good point about the lower the price the worse the quality. It kind of reminds me of paying for hotel rooms. I have never heard of Digital Storm but I will check them out.
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November 23, 2011 7:03:28 PM

I have updated the original post and build for all to see. Your comments would be most helpful.
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November 23, 2011 8:27:48 PM

Looks like an awesome system. As far as the video card, if the games you listed are your main concern ( wow, diablo, etc. ) , then the 1.5 gig model should be fine. If you were going to run crysis or crysis 2 heavily modded with hi-res texture packs and whatnot, then the 3 gig might be a consideration. But for standard gaming, the 1.5 gig should be more than fine.
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November 23, 2011 9:13:02 PM

Hey thrakazog! Thanks again for your valuable input. As always, its greatly appreciated.
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