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November 7, 2011 11:53:17 PM

I pretty much started looking at building a PC this morning. Here is what i am thinking of doing:

Approximate Purchase Date: next 2 weeks
Budget Range: $1500ish
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, everyday normal use, photo editing (later on)
Parts Not Required: Mouse
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: (Newegg or amazon
Country of Origin: US
Overclocking: Yes
SLI or Crossfire: Maybe
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 ??
Additional Comments: Quiet would be nice.


Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard: ASUS P8Z68-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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HD : Crucial 128 GB m4 2.5-Inch Solid State Drive SATA 6Gb/s CT128M4SSD2

http://www.amazon.com/Crucial-2-5-Inch-Solid-State-CT12...

RAM: CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1563-AR GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Monitor: ASUS VE278Q Black 27" 1920x1080 2ms Full HD HDMI LED Backlight LCD Monitor w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

What is a good cheap cd/dvd drive?

Thanks for your input!

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November 8, 2011 12:11:10 AM

First if you are overclocking, which you say you are...you need an unlocked CPU, one with a 'K' after the model number, so either the i5-2500K or the i7-2600K.

Second if you are going to overclock you need a CPU Cooler. Check frostytech's chart for performance and quietness... http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=261... ...or there are a ton of other sites that compare performance and quietness

Third, min 750 watt PSU if you are going to have to possibly try Crossfire or SLI later on down the road, so then you don't have to upgrade your PSU and buy another graphics card

Fourth, your Motherboard is fairly expensive compared to everything else, maybe look for a cheaper Z68 around $130-170
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November 8, 2011 12:12:04 AM

Thanks cutebeans. I meant to add the unlocked i7. I figured I would just get the best for now, I dont want to deal with upgrades for a while. Thoughts on that reasoning?
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November 8, 2011 12:15:14 AM

Nice build. However, if you are going to have 2 high-end GPUs AND a high-end OCed CPU, get at least an 850W PSU. You need headroom.
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November 8, 2011 12:31:12 AM

There's no difference between the i5 and i7 in gaming. So, the i5-2500k would be the best for you right now.

The i7-2600k is $100 more expensive than the i5 because it has hyperthreading(that's it, just one feature) which you really won't use.
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November 8, 2011 12:42:29 AM

great! if i dont get the i7, the bigger PSU replaces it.
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November 8, 2011 12:47:55 AM

yankyfan100 said:
great! if i dont get the i7, the bigger PSU replaces it.

Of all the parts in a build, the PSU is the most important. It ties everything together. It can be like a factory for energy. The energy needs to be clean and sufficient. It will be used to run a city and keep everything moving. Yes, it can be expensive, but having bad energy produced will cause problems. You will have power outages, safety concerns, and more. Sure it can be cheaper to use bad energy, but if you want everything in it's best condition and having it last, don't go cheap on energy.
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November 8, 2011 12:55:04 AM

Can save a bit on the mobo

ASRock Z68 EXTREME4 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 (has Pcie 3.0)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock Z68 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 (also has pcie 3.0)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you want a quiet case then I wouldn't get the HAF, in order to maximize quietness a case should only have front intake and rear exhaust fans (no side or top panel fans), no side window & no side or top vents. I would suggest something like this if you want quiet, which I did a build for my roommate with. All you can hear is some air movement.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for the cheap DVD drives I would stick with LG or lite-on in the $18-20 range for a DVD burner, the Sony's tends to spin up discs very loudly in my experience.

They are also correct in the PSU dept, go 750W+ if you plan to SLI another 560 Ti later.

Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-750 750W SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec CP-850 850W Continuous Power CPX SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You'll also want a CPU cooler as mentioned

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Happy building!
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November 8, 2011 2:36:49 AM

Thanks for all the help everyone!

May be a dumb question but will this setup work alright (changes: i5, 850w psu) if instead of the 27" monitor i use a 32 inch vizio tv I already have?
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November 8, 2011 2:48:36 AM

yankyfan100 said:
Thanks for all the help everyone!

May be a dumb question but will this setup work alright (changes: i5, 850w psu) if instead of the 27" monitor i use a 32 inch vizio tv I already have?

Of course, but make sure you have some sort of connection available to it (HDMI, DVI, etc.). Also, it would be best if it's 1080p. If it's 720p, either change some things in your current setup (weaker GPU for example), or go with the current monitor for better visual quality and field of view.
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November 8, 2011 2:48:46 AM

yup should work fantastically, plus it will be nice having it on a large TV!

EDIT: Good thought by AbdullahG, check the connections on your TV and then buy your graphics card accordingly. It is possibly it will have a standard DVI connection but if not you just have to make sure to get a GPU w/ DVI out.
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November 8, 2011 2:58:23 AM

The vizio has HDMI in but it is 720p. I dont want to go with a weaker gpu because i prob will get a new monitor eventually. I am sort of leaning towards home theater/gaming pc. Just need to figure out a good setup for keyboard mouse now. Hmm what to do with that extra $$$ that im not spending on the monitor?
Can anyone direct me, or explain how using a smaller ssd as cache works?
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November 8, 2011 3:09:23 AM

yankyfan100 said:
The vizio has HDMI in but it is 720p. I dont want to go with a weaker gpu because i prob will get a new monitor eventually. I am sort of leaning towards home theater/gaming pc. Just need to figure out a good setup for keyboard mouse now. Hmm what to do with that extra $$$ that im not spending on the monitor?
Can anyone direct me, or explain how using a smaller ssd as cache works?

It's fine then. It is overkill, but in the enthusiast work, nothing is overkill. In the gamer world, overkill = futureproof.
SSD caching is basically allowing your most used apps and programs (including your OS) from the HDD to work and operate faster using the available space on your SSD (not necessarily putting themselves into it). It's like having both of them work as one (much like RAID 0 or a hybrid HDD).
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November 8, 2011 5:15:24 AM

Ditch the 2600k use a 2500K instead and add the money for a nice 570 maybe a MSI twin frozer or ASUS DCUII
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November 8, 2011 6:45:51 PM

yankyfan100 said:
@ spentshells

I think i will get the Asus ENGTX570 DCII

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...


will that fit alright on the ASUS P8Z68-V PRO?

I believe that card is 3 slots. No. If you plan on SLI, you need to have the cards well spaced if you do not want them to overheat. Since those are 3 slots, they are going to take up a lot of room on your MoBo. Get either an EVGA model, Gigabyte model, or an MSI model.
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November 11, 2011 6:46:34 AM

Great build looks like it will make you very happy
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November 11, 2011 7:35:55 PM

I've actually switched it up a bit. I am going with the HAF 932, mushkin radioactive 8 gb, i7 2600k, and hyper 212 plus.

I didn't want to run into clearance issues with the vengence heat sinks and cpu cooler.
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November 11, 2011 7:48:31 PM

yankyfan100 said:
I've actually switched it up a bit. I am going with the HAF 932, mushkin radioactive 8 gb, i7 2600k, and hyper 212 plus.

I didn't want to run into clearance issues with the vengence heat sinks and cpu cooler.

The Hyper 212 EVO is a few bucks more and has a better copper base design to keep your CPU several degrees cooler. Go for it. There's low-profile vengeance RAM, if your interested. Why the i7 2600K? An i5 2500k offers great performance in most, if not all categorize (especially since your main priority is gaming). The only major difference is HT, which is more of a want than a need. A hundred more for HT isn't a good deal IMO.
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November 11, 2011 7:59:25 PM

too late to get the EVO. think the RAM i got is good enough. I just wanted to get the best of the best for processor. Who knows, maybe I will get into some activities that I can use the HT :)  I can't wait to build this thing!!
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November 11, 2011 8:41:32 PM

yankyfan100 said:
too late to get the EVO. think the RAM i got is good enough. I just wanted to get the best of the best for processor. Who knows, maybe I will get into some activities that I can use the HT :)  I can't wait to build this thing!!

That's fine then. No point in the best of the best if you cannot take full advantage of what it has to offer, and if you are not going to benefit much from it. HT gives about a fair amount of performance boost in apps that can utilize it (games ATM do not). Majority are rendering programs and benching programs. If those aren't things you do often, then the $100 extra isn't worth it. By the time programs that you use often (games for example) take advantage of HT or you become really interested in those things, you may already need a new CPU. An i5 2500K should already be enough-if not more than enough-for you current and future needs. The extra boost isn't a major importance.

In the end, it's your call. If you really want an i7 2600K (there's an i7 2700K, but it's a complete waste), then go for it. If you want to spend your money wisely, and conserve as much as possible based on your needs, an i5 2500K.Sometimes, spending more isn't smart. A 6990 for Source games is a waste. An i5 2500K for email is a waste, but in the end, it's your money; just spend it wisely.
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November 16, 2011 1:48:47 PM

I got it all put together and POSTed the first time :)  It is working beautifully. However, when playing BF3 I sometimes get this black jagged shape at the top of the screen (gets worse when I look down). It seems to happen if i am switching between desktop and game, maybe.

Any ideas?
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November 16, 2011 6:31:45 PM

yankyfan100 said:
I got it all put together and POSTed the first time :)  It is working beautifully. However, when playing BF3 I sometimes get this black jagged shape at the top of the screen (gets worse when I look down). It seems to happen if i am switching between desktop and game, maybe.

Any ideas?

Update drivers, I assume

I had an issue with Crysis 2 similar to yours. You start the game with fullscreen disabled. When you get the game started, change it back to fullcreen.
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November 16, 2011 6:43:50 PM

I have the newest drivers from nvidia. Should i try EVGA specific driver? I will try the fullscreen trick also. thanks
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November 16, 2011 6:50:21 PM

yankyfan100 said:
I have the newest drivers from nvidia. Should i try EVGA specific driver? I will try the fullscreen trick also. thanks

If you are talking about the EVGA CD with the drivers, no, that's not necessary.
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November 18, 2011 8:04:13 PM

fixed the graphics problem with the beta driver 285.79.
Here are some pics after I did the cable management last night.








Home theater/gaming setup:




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November 18, 2011 8:11:27 PM

yankyfan100 said:
fixed the graphics problem with the beta driver 285.79.
Here are some pics after I did the cable management last night.

]http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/8909/p1040942800x600.jpg


]http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/5189/p1040937800x600.jpg

]http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/2128/p1040938450x600.jpg

Home theater/gaming setup:

]http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9522/p1040946800x600.jpg

Nice looking build. Post that in the Toms Member's Gallery if you haven't done so.
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November 22, 2011 10:13:07 PM

Thanks! Any ideas why my processor and ram are getting lower scores? Are there any quick setting I might have missed to maximize performance (without overclocking)?



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whoops, forgot pic before.
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January 9, 2012 9:52:04 AM

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So here is what I am waiting for,I went with a Holiday Special II and then upgraded the stuff,i might still call them before they start building and have them make my mobo sli ready,any other suggestions?
Only 1. Create your own thread. It will get more response that way.
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