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November 8, 2011 12:41:59 AM

Hi All,

After making a post earlier requesting for some feedback on a gaming PC, i thought it would be best if i did some homework and decided on a rough idea of the specs i think i wanted/needed.

Below is what i've come up with. Ideally i'd like to be as close to $2000 without affecting performance of the PC.

The main purpose of this build is gaming. Everything else is 2nd priority.
I've taken into consideration that 8GB RAM is sufficient.
I've also taken abit of a stab at going for the Radeon 6990, if anyone can suggest a better GFX for price/performance, i'd be happy to take a look.

I have two 1TB hard drives already purchased.

I have two monitors (Samsung 24 Inch BX2450 LED 1080P Display) already purchased
if it helps in making a determination on the below parts, please feel free to view specs Here


Motherboard - $345 AUD
V3 Asus MAXIMUS IV EXTREME V3 MB
Socket 1155, Intel P67 Chipset, 4x DDR3, SATA3, USB3.0, 8CH Audio, 2x GbLAN, EATX
View Here

CPU - $335.00 AUD
Intel - BX80623I72600K - Intel Core i7 2600K
(3.40Ghz / 8MB / LGA1155 / Quad Core, Overclocking Enabled)
View Here

Video Card - $869.00 AUD
ASUS - EAH6990-3DI4S-4GD5 Asus Radeon HD6990 (830Mhz)
4GB GDDR5, PCI-E 2.1, Fan Cooler, DVI, 4x Mini DisplayPort 1.2
View Here

SSD - $195.00 AUD
OCZ Technology - AGT3-25SAT3-120G
OCZ 120GB SSD, 2.5", Agility 3, SATAIII, Read 525MB/s, Write 500MB/s
View Here

Memory - $165.00 AUD
Corsair Micro - 8GB Kit (2x4GB)
CMT8GX3M2A1866C9 Corsair 8GB Kit (2x4GB), PC-15000 (1866MHz) DDR3, Dominator GT DHX, 9-10-9-27, XMP, Dual Channel Kit
View Here

Power Supply - $225.00 AUD
OCZ Technology - OCZ-ZX1000W-AU
OCZ ZX Series 1000W 80+ Gold Power Supply, 100% Modular Cables, SLI/Crossfire Support
View Here

Case - $115.00 AUD
Cooler Master - RC-692-KKN2
CoolerMaster CM 690 II Advanced Black ATX Case, No PSU, 4x 5.25", 6x 3.5" Bays, I/O Panel with USB, eSATA, HD Audio
View Here

If i could get some feedback on the balance of the PC overall, it would be appreciated.
All up, the PC is costed at $2,249.00 AUD as at 08-11-2011

Thanks
Paul

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November 8, 2011 12:57:06 AM

might as well wait for 2011 socket mobos and get Ivy bridge .. what's a point on spending 2000k on a system when in couple months u can get better one for about the same money
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November 8, 2011 1:07:55 AM

Top end motherboards dont perform better than more mainstream models .
Are you sure you need to pay for the features that board has?

The 2500k is recommended by Intel for gaming

1600MHz memory at 9-9-9-24 will perform just as well , and cost less . 1.5 volt or less for sandy bridge processors

The 6990 might be a great singe card , but its hot loud ...........and not worth it when you can crossfire two 6970's , have more performance and pay less .
And you'd be waiting for that 6990 since its out of stock and there is no known ETA
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November 8, 2011 1:12:21 AM

It seems like you just chose the most expensive parts in the store.

Get an i5-2500k
ASRock Z68 EXTREME4 GEN3
Get a Corsair Vengeance 8gb DDR3 1600 1.5v or G. skill Ripjaws 8gb DDR 1600
Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
A quality 750w can easily power up two 6970s. Get 850 if you plan to have some serious overclocking.

Get a single 6970, it can pretty much play any games at ultra.

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November 8, 2011 1:28:58 AM

With the SSD I would stick to Crucial M4 a lot better reviews and more reliable.

1000W PSU is going to be overkill unless you plan to XF or SLI I would still knock it down to a 850W

i5 2500k hands down is better for gaming

G.Skill for RAM is much better and is only around $45 for 8GB

Deffinetly dont need that highend of a motherboard for gaming a $150 Z68 will be good enough

CPU cooler get a Hyper 212+ no point in getting a system that can OC and not have a fan to keep it cool
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November 8, 2011 1:54:03 AM

ASUS P8Z68-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $209.99 (US) 218.39 (AUD)


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
$219.99 (US) 228.79(AUD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA 02G-P3-1569-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2Win (Fermi) 2GB 512-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $519.99 (US) 540.79(AUD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F120GBGT-BK 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $199.99 (US) 207.99 (AUD)


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C7R $94.99 (US) 98.79 (AUD)


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-900 900W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
$139.99(US) 145.59 (AUD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here are some choices for you to consider as alternatives to what you had chosen and I did convert them to Austrailan but I'm sure that the actual prices there are different but it will give you some idea of the cost. These choices will not make your build any less performance wise but hopefully they will save you some cash.
The video card was just released by Evga and will give you a performance boost of 25 to 30% over a GTX 580. The cpu is just as good as the 2600k when it comes to gaming and is $100 less.
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November 8, 2011 6:44:06 AM

madchemist83 said:
might as well wait for 2011 socket mobos and get Ivy bridge .. what's a point on spending 2000k on a system when in couple months u can get better one for about the same money


Hey MadChem,

Thanks for responding, should have mentioned this earlier, but i'm keen to get this PC in the next week or so.. guess i might miss out on some ivy bridge mobos but i can take advantage of these when considering an upgrade in the future.

Cheers
Paul
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November 8, 2011 6:57:20 AM

Outlander_04 said:
Top end motherboards dont perform better than more mainstream models .
Are you sure you need to pay for the features that board has?

The 2500k is recommended by Intel for gaming

1600MHz memory at 9-9-9-24 will perform just as well , and cost less . 1.5 volt or less for sandy bridge processors

The 6990 might be a great singe card , but its hot loud ...........and not worth it when you can crossfire two 6970's , have more performance and pay less .
And you'd be waiting for that 6990 since its out of stock and there is no known ETA


Hey Outlander, again, really appreciate your feedback and response to my post again. Definitely an asset to these forums, people like me are guided by your consistent and considered feedback.

To answer your question, i'm not 100% sure, someone in the posts below has mentioned i've pretty much gone for the most expensive components. The truth is, i kinda used the prices to guide me, i know that my build was probably not the most efficient in terms of bang for buck, but needed to get a build and draw a line in the sand and let the experts critque my thoughts.

I don't know if i need to pay for the features, I know i'm willing to spend $2k or so on a computer and i dont really want to be left feeling restricted 6mths down the track when another game comes along and my computer is having a cardiac arrest trying to cope if you know what i mean?

the i5 2500k right? it seems to be the CPU of the moment, happy to cut across to this mobo and save $100.. am i losing out on anything by giving up the i7 2600k?

with regards to memory, it's an interesting thought, any suggestions a brand of memory? is g.skill as mentioned below a good option?

Video Card.. this is one of the more contentious issues.. my brother is also providing me with some feedback, but he's more materialistic, the best is all he thinks is necessary.. whilst i think sometimes the best can work to be the cheapest in the long run, i think in GFX terms, there's more opportunities than just the best at the time i.e. Radeon 6990.

Do you have any reviews on Radeon 6970 Crossfire vs Radeon 6990? Benchmarks etc? i'm looking at the 6790 crossfire option.
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November 8, 2011 7:05:01 AM

cutebeans said:
It seems like you just chose the most expensive parts in the store.

Get an i5-2500k
ASRock Z68 EXTREME4 GEN3
Get a Corsair Vengeance 8gb DDR3 1600 1.5v or G. skill Ripjaws 8gb DDR 1600
Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
A quality 750w can easily power up two 6970s. Get 850 if you plan to have some serious overclocking.

Get a single 6970, it can pretty much play any games at ultra.


Hi Cutebeans, thanks for taking the time to review my build and provide feedback.

Agreed, i'm looking to replace the i5-2500k. Are you able to give any feedback on what i might be giving up if i were to take on the i5-2500k instead?

The same for the ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3? any reasons for this personal choice?

Memory.. Outlander mentioned RAM at 1.5volts, any particular reason why this is so important? i'll look at Corsair or G.Skill. nevertheless, 8GB at DD3 1600mhz is a minimum.

It's interesting you mentioned the 6970 as did Outlander. I'm thinking of doing a cross-fire setup. What are your thoughts? the card been stable and reliable?

What is Eyefinity, sorry if i sound ignorant :) 

I'm thinking of getting an 850w PSU, can you suggest a decent one? it seems OCZ for either the 850W or 1000W there's an $18 difference which doesn't seem like a massive difference? i'd have a surplus 200W for future room?
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November 8, 2011 7:15:41 AM

Emelth said:
With the SSD I would stick to Crucial M4 a lot better reviews and more reliable.

1000W PSU is going to be overkill unless you plan to XF or SLI I would still knock it down to a 850W

i5 2500k hands down is better for gaming

G.Skill for RAM is much better and is only around $45 for 8GB

Deffinetly dont need that highend of a motherboard for gaming a $150 Z68 will be good enough

CPU cooler get a Hyper 212+ no point in getting a system that can OC and not have a fan to keep it cool


Hey Emelth,

Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated.

Good to get a different perspective on the SSD's. What is Crucial M4 in terms of cost compared to the OCZ?

PSU - At the time of writing this, my head is definitely in the 6970 crossfire setup, would this require 1000W or 850w PSU?

Mobo - Yep, agreed it's been a consistent message which i've heard loud and clear. are the i5-2500k easy to overclock?

Memory - G.Skill, it's a new brand i hadnt heard much of until late (been out of the tech loop for awhile).
$45 for 8GB sounds like a good deal, it is 1600mhz and DDR3 i presume?

Yeah as mentioned earlier to Cutebeans, i used price as a guide for determining a baseline, with all the feedback i've got, a few tweaks here and there, i should have some savings on the board, that's for sure.

Can you link a suggested Z68 mobo you would recommend?

CPU Cooler - Good point, i do intend to overclock, i hope the 2500k is easy to overclock? Hyper 212+ is a good brand? What would these cost?

Cheers
Paul
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November 8, 2011 7:39:50 AM

inzone said:
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS $209.99 (US) 218.39 (AUD)


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K
$219.99 (US) 228.79(AUD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA 02G-P3-1569-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2Win (Fermi) 2GB 512-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card $519.99 (US) 540.79(AUD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F120GBGT-BK 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) $199.99 (US) 207.99 (AUD)


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C7R $94.99 (US) 98.79 (AUD)


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-900 900W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
$139.99(US) 145.59 (AUD)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Here are some choices for you to consider as alternatives to what you had chosen and I did convert them to Austrailan but I'm sure that the actual prices there are different but it will give you some idea of the cost. These choices will not make your build any less performance wise but hopefully they will save you some cash.
The video card was just released by Evga and will give you a performance boost of 25 to 30% over a GTX 580. The cpu is just as good as the 2600k when it comes to gaming and is $100 less.



Hey Inzone, thanks very much of taking the time to actually research alternatives, post a link and then convert them back into AUD to make it easier for me to make a comparison. I appreciate the effort immensely.

ASUS P8Z68-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS any reason for this particular choice Inzone? it would be good to get your perspective so it makes it easier to think on the same page and make a decision.

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K Agreed. After unanimous support on this forum, I've got no real reason to disagree, this change will be made.

EVGA 02G-P3-1569-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2Win (Fermi) 2GB 512-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Interested in your feedback on the choice of GFX.. not the GTX 570,580 or the 590 to compare with my original 6990, but the GTX560? it's $520 as well, so it'd be costly if i needed to sli it'd be over $1000? x2 6970's would be $800ish or so.. I note the 15-30% boost in performance, did they do any benchmarks to support this at all?

Do you have any benchmark links to compare the performance of the GTX 560 against some of the newer cards on the market?

Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F120GBGT-BK 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Corsair.. a safe bet when dealing with SSD's..? do you have this yourself personally? how do they compare against the Crucial M4? any idea?

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model Agreed, appears CORSAIR Vengeance or G.Skill are the go in this case. Cheers.

Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-900 900W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply Sounds good Antec are good, are there any restrictions with this Antec PSU? 900w would be plenty for a crossfire/sli yeah?

Once again, thanks for your feedback, much appreciated.
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November 8, 2011 7:49:59 AM

Hello Paul, I'll try to answer every question as concise as I can.

Regarding the i7-2600k and i5-2500k, The only difference between them is HyperThreading. It is only beneficial to you if you do heavy rendering like (AUTOCAD, HD Video Editing Files, etc.) Mostly, heavy professional software comes to mind with HT. That's all. i5-2500k is just an i7-2600k without HT.

The asrock extreme4 gen3 is a great motherboard and has alot of features that you would use. Look at those features. Also, the 3.0 usb on the front makes it very appealing.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Premium Gold Caps (2.5 x longer life time), 100% Japan-made high-quality Conductive Polymer Capacitors

Digi Power, Advanced V8 + 4 Power Phase Design

2 x PCIe 3.0 x16 Slots, 1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 Slot, Supports AMD 3-Way CrossFireX and NVIDIA Quad SLI

Supports Intel HD Graphics Built-in Visuals

Dr. Debug, Smart Switch Design: Power/Reset/Clear CMOS Switch with LED

Support Intel Smart Response, Lucid Virtu Switchable Graphics

Supports ASRock XFast USB, XFast LAN Technologies

Supports ASRock On/Off Play, Graphical UEFI, ASRock Extreme Tuning Utility (AXTU)

Combo Cooler Option (C.C.O.)

7.1 CH HD Audio with Content Protection (Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec), Supports THX TruStudio

Free Bundle : 1 x Front USB 3.0 Panel, 1 x 3.5mm Audio Cable, CyberLink MediaEspresso 6.5 Trial, ASRock MAGIX Multimedia Suite
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

1.5v is recommended because Intel recommends no more than 1.5v on Sandy Bridge CPUs.

Eyeinfinity = http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/amd-eyefini...

Better if the manufacturer explains it.
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November 8, 2011 7:58:38 AM

sirpaulus said:
Hey Inzone, thanks very much of taking the time to actually research alternatives, post a link and then convert them back into AUD to make it easier for me to make a comparison. I appreciate the effort immensely.

ASUS P8Z68-V PRO LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS any reason for this particular choice Inzone? it would be good to get your perspective so it makes it easier to think on the same page and make a decision.

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K Agreed. After unanimous support on this forum, I've got no real reason to disagree, this change will be made.

EVGA 02G-P3-1569-KR GeForce GTX 560 Ti 2Win (Fermi) 2GB 512-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Interested in your feedback on the choice of GFX.. not the GTX 570,580 or the 590 to compare with my original 6990, but the GTX560? it's $520 as well, so it'd be costly if i needed to sli it'd be over $1000? x2 6970's would be $800ish or so.. I note the 15-30% boost in performance, did they do any benchmarks to support this at all?

Do you have any benchmark links to compare the performance of the GTX 560 against some of the newer cards on the market?

Corsair Force Series GT CSSD-F120GBGT-BK 2.5" 120GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Corsair.. a safe bet when dealing with SSD's..? do you have this yourself personally? how do they compare against the Crucial M4? any idea?

CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model Agreed, appears CORSAIR Vengeance or G.Skill are the go in this case. Cheers.

Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-900 900W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Certified 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply Sounds good Antec are good, are there any restrictions with this Antec PSU? 900w would be plenty for a crossfire/sli yeah?

Once again, thanks for your feedback, much appreciated.


The Asus motherboard is also a good deal. I'm not sure if it has usb 3.0 on the front though. Asus and Asrock motherboards are both of high quality.

The M4 Crucial is the best SSD on the market right now.

The Antec High Current Gamer is a pretty great PSU and it would be plenty for dual crossfire.

The GPU he linked is already a dual GPU. That's why it's so expensive. The 6970s are better though.
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November 8, 2011 8:02:27 AM

Why most people suggest the 6970 crossfire is because it is better than the 6990 and more or less than the same price.
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November 8, 2011 8:19:53 AM

cutebeans said:
The Asus motherboard is also a good deal. I'm not sure if it has usb 3.0 on the front though. Asus and Asrock motherboards are both of high quality.

The M4 Crucial is the best SSD on the market right now.

The Antec High Current Gamer is a pretty great PSU and it would be plenty for dual crossfire.

The GPU he linked is already a dual GPU. That's why it's so expensive. The 6970s are better though.


M4 Crucial it is then.

Antec High Current Gamer huh, i'll look at whether my wholesalers stock them..

Ahh ok, so dual GPU, with a 15-30% boost in performance over a 580, makes it pretty decent then. how much better would the 6970's be? $840 vs $520 or so.. there's abit of a difference in price?
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November 8, 2011 8:23:04 AM

cutebeans said:
Hello Paul, I'll try to answer every question as concise as I can.

Regarding the i7-2600k and i5-2500k, The only difference between them is HyperThreading. It is only beneficial to you if you do heavy rendering like (AUTOCAD, HD Video Editing Files, etc.) Mostly, heavy professional software comes to mind with HT. That's all. i5-2500k is just an i7-2600k without HT.

The asrock extreme4 gen3 is a great motherboard and has alot of features that you would use. Look at those features. Also, the 3.0 usb on the front makes it very appealing.
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Premium Gold Caps (2.5 x longer life time), 100% Japan-made high-quality Conductive Polymer Capacitors

Digi Power, Advanced V8 + 4 Power Phase Design

2 x PCIe 3.0 x16 Slots, 1 x PCIe 2.0 x16 Slot, Supports AMD 3-Way CrossFireX and NVIDIA Quad SLI

Supports Intel HD Graphics Built-in Visuals

Dr. Debug, Smart Switch Design: Power/Reset/Clear CMOS Switch with LED

Support Intel Smart Response, Lucid Virtu Switchable Graphics

Supports ASRock XFast USB, XFast LAN Technologies

Supports ASRock On/Off Play, Graphical UEFI, ASRock Extreme Tuning Utility (AXTU)

Combo Cooler Option (C.C.O.)

7.1 CH HD Audio with Content Protection (Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec), Supports THX TruStudio

Free Bundle : 1 x Front USB 3.0 Panel, 1 x 3.5mm Audio Cable, CyberLink MediaEspresso 6.5 Trial, ASRock MAGIX Multimedia Suite
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

1.5v is recommended because Intel recommends no more than 1.5v on Sandy Bridge CPUs.

Eyeinfinity = http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/amd-eyefini...

Better if the manufacturer explains it.


Thanks for responding to my queries cutebean, your a legend!

The eyefinity looks great.
I'll get the 2500k, definitely don't need HT, i'm not doing any autoCAD or the like...

Mobo sounds good, front USB 3.0 support sounds good too as you mentioned..

can you confirm what the importance of the CAS latency of 9-9-9-24 is? i've seen a few different CAS configurations which have changed the prices of the RAM significantly, i thought you could adjust CAS latency in BIOS?

Cheers
Paul
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November 8, 2011 8:26:00 AM

Dual 6970's would be better by a ton. I'm not sure how much though. :)  I was never interested in crossfiring/SLI.

I would go with a single 6970 setup for now then add another 6970 when needed.
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November 8, 2011 8:42:05 AM

cutebeans said:
Dual 6970's would be better by a ton. I'm not sure how much though. :)  I was never interested in crossfiring/SLI.

I would go with a single 6970 setup for now then add another 6970 when needed.


Wouldnt be better to have an Xfire setup now rather than later? A 6970 on it's own wouldnt be as powerful?
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November 8, 2011 8:43:53 AM

cutebeans said:
EDIT: found a better article.
http://www.overclock.net/faqs/26706-info-ram-timings-du...

It's not really that important to know unless you're planning to be hardcore overclocker.


Having a read of this now, cheers!

So, rule of thumb - 9-9-9-24 is a good set of digits to look for in a gaming PC? unless i'm looking to overclock hardcore?

When we talk about overclocking, the i5 2500k can go how far without serious cooling?

With cooling i.e. Hyper212+ could it be clocked further and would i need different latency RAM in this case?
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November 8, 2011 8:47:41 AM

sirpaulus said:
Having a read of this now, cheers!

So, rule of thumb - 9-9-9-24 is a good set of digits to look for in a gaming PC? unless i'm looking to overclock hardcore?

When we talk about overclocking, the i5 2500k can go how far without serious cooling?

With cooling i.e. Hyper212+ could it be clocked further and would i need different latency RAM in this case?


The i5-2500k would go about to 4.0ghz without serious cooling but I suggest you get a Hyper212+ or Hyper Evo. It keeps the system cool and parts live longer.

Rule of thumb. Don't mess with the timings unless you know what you're doing. The differences are minimal in performance.
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November 8, 2011 8:53:11 AM

cutebeans said:
The Asus motherboard is also a good deal. I'm not sure if it has usb 3.0 on the front though. Asus and Asrock motherboards are both of high quality.

The M4 Crucial is the best SSD on the market right now.

The Antec High Current Gamer is a pretty great PSU and it would be plenty for dual crossfire.

The GPU he linked is already a dual GPU. That's why it's so expensive. The 6970s are better though.


Hey Cutebean,

Antec high current gamer

This is 80 PLUS BRONZE not GOLD? is there a difference i should be concerned of?

Cheers
Paul
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November 8, 2011 8:54:55 AM

cutebeans said:
The i5-2500k would go about to 4.0ghz without serious cooling but I suggest you get a Hyper212+ or Hyper Evo. It keeps the system cool and parts live longer.

Rule of thumb. Don't mess with the timings unless you know what you're doing. The differences are minimal in performance.


no worries, if minimal performance output is obtained my altering CAS latency timings, i'll stick with 9-9-9-14 1.5 volt 8GB DDR3 sticks then.

Ok, no worries, i'll look into a Hyper212+ or Evo.

Cheers
Paul
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November 8, 2011 9:02:01 AM

cutebeans said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/80_PLUS

Not really. The ratings are not of the quality of the PSU but the energy efficiency of the PSU. As long as it is 80% certified then you are good.


Sounds good. More of a marketing word 'GOLD' people associate it to highest standard rather than energy efficiency.
Definitely fine with going BRONZE in terms of energy efficiency given that PC's on the whole, don't consume much power than say a Fridge, a dryer or perhaps a hair straightener might do.
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November 8, 2011 9:12:52 AM

Good luck!
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November 8, 2011 9:13:56 AM

cutebeans said:
The Asus motherboard is also a good deal. I'm not sure if it has usb 3.0 on the front though. Asus and Asrock motherboards are both of high quality.

The M4 Crucial is the best SSD on the market right now.

The Antec High Current Gamer is a pretty great PSU and it would be plenty for dual crossfire.

The GPU he linked is already a dual GPU. That's why it's so expensive. The 6970s are better though.


Hey Beans, i noticed that the cruical M4 that i'm looking at here has a read of up to 500 m/b and write of 175 m/b.

Whereas the original one i posted, here is 525MB's read and 500mb write?

Big difference and the price is cheaper?
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November 8, 2011 9:23:05 AM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-nand-reliabilit...

It's another marketing ploy. It says read and write speeds UP TO ****. Although, the OCZ is no slouch either.

If you want to save money then you could get the OCZ.

Edit: OCZ has some issues about some controller or something. :(  Sorry forgot. Maybe it's fixed now but im not so sure.
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November 8, 2011 9:32:08 AM

cutebeans said:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-nand-reliabilit...

It's another marketing ploy. It says read and write speeds UP TO ****. Although, the OCZ is no slouch either.

If you want to save money then you could get the OCZ.

Edit: OCZ has some issues about some controller or something. :(  Sorry forgot. Maybe it's fixed now but im not so sure.


What about Corsair then? here

Inzone suggested it. High Read/Write speeds. even if it's a marketing ploy and says up to? are the speeds even realistic or is the M4 Cruical stating realistic speeds?
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November 8, 2011 10:47:28 AM

sirpaulus said:
Wouldnt be better to have an Xfire setup now rather than later? A 6970 on it's own wouldnt be as powerful?


The thing is.....sometimes....people don't need what they think they needed. Buy one first, test it now on your games, if you're happy with it, then leave it for now and wait for more graphic intensive games to come out before buying the second one. Unless your store is giving you a huge discount on two. I wouldn't buy two at the same time.
I, myself have just one gtx 560 ti, and a xfire/SLI ready motherboard, and i am still pretty happy about the performance in the games I play. If there is a game in the future that I needed another card, I could simply buy one at a lower price and put it in.
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November 8, 2011 9:52:57 PM

coldest said:
The thing is.....sometimes....people don't need what they think they needed. Buy one first, test it now on your games, if you're happy with it, then leave it for now and wait for more graphic intensive games to come out before buying the second one. Unless your store is giving you a huge discount on two. I wouldn't buy two at the same time.
I, myself have just one gtx 560 ti, and a xfire/SLI ready motherboard, and i am still pretty happy about the performance in the games I play. If there is a game in the future that I needed another card, I could simply buy one at a lower price and put it in.


Hey Coldest, good point. Makes alot of sense.

So, is the 6970 the best card to have on it's own with xfire ready and waiting, then buy a 2nd 6970 later down the track?

Cheers
Paul
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November 9, 2011 4:03:30 AM

The 6970 can get all games at ultra. I've been you that from the start. haha
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November 9, 2011 5:38:49 AM

sirpaulus said:
Hey Coldest, good point. Makes alot of sense.

So, is the 6970 the best card to have on it's own with xfire ready and waiting, then buy a 2nd 6970 later down the track?

Cheers
Paul

Unless you have plans on running Eyefinity, there is no need to crossfire a 6970. Even a 6950 will do for gaming on a single monitor at 1920x1080.
But if since you already have 2x Samsung 24 Inch BX2450 LED 1080P Display, all you need to do is buy a 3rd out of the savings made from CPU & Motherboard so you will have 3 of those elegant monitors for Eyefinity. In which case, it justifies a 6970 crossfire.


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November 14, 2011 9:58:13 PM

Best answer selected by sirpaulus.
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