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% of 3D games you can play with 1 Gtx 570

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September 10, 2011 10:54:37 PM

Can someone inform me what % of 3D Nvidia games you can play with 1 Gtx 570 with at least 30 fps on a 1080p 3d monitor, AA enabled, and other settings also enabled? Also same setting with 560 ti?

Or you can tell me where can I find all the 3D game fps benchmarks on a single page (so I don't have to go through page by page and site by site), since I looked and did not find for almost all the 3d games benchmarks on 1-2 pages.

If I can play at least 90-95% current 3d games then it is fine by me!

Note: I will be playing on this yet to be builded PC:
Intel Core i5-2500K
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September 10, 2011 11:02:53 PM

99.9
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September 10, 2011 11:06:25 PM

17seconds said:
99.9


Are you speaking for experience or from research or knowledge?

And what about 560 ti?
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September 10, 2011 11:06:52 PM

You can play 100% of all 3D Games available but it depends on Resolution... If you want a Monitor that don't use the video card for 3D than this samsung monitor is the right decision for you and i recommend it!!! It's at 1080p so your 570 can max anything on it without using the GPU to accelerate 3D(Which decrease FPS when accelerating)...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Note: This is a built in 3D converter so it converts 2D to 3D and also wont slow your GPU down and wont even use your GPU at all!... Here's a Quick video!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1q-_LepAdQ&feature=resu...
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a c 647 U Graphics card
September 10, 2011 11:14:46 PM

otaku3230 said:
Are you speaking for experience or from research or knowledge?

And what about 560 ti?

There are literally two games that I am aware of that are difficult to hit 60 fps consistently with my GTX 560 at full settings (Metro 2033 and the new Hard Reset demo). The GTX 570 is only slightly slower, and you can lower the settings to hit the 60 fps barrier (30 fps x 2 eyes).
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September 10, 2011 11:18:24 PM

legendkiller said:
You can play 100% of all 3D Games available but it depends on Resolution... If you want a Monitor that don't use the video card for 3D than this samsung monitor is the right decision for you and i recommend it!!! It's at 1080p so your 570 can max anything on it without using the GPU to accelerate 3D(Which decrease FPS when accelerating)...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Note: This is a built in 3D converter so it converts 2D to 3D and also wont slow your GPU down and wont even use your GPU at all!... Here's a Quick video!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1q-_LepAdQ&feature=resu...


Well I won't be playing ANY game lower than 1080p so will the 560 ti or 570 be enough?

Also is the samung 3d quality on par with nvidia 3D vision? And FYI, I think I will still need a dedicated GPU for other non 3d games.
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September 10, 2011 11:21:06 PM

17seconds said:
There are literally two games that I am aware of that are difficult to hit 60 fps consistently with my GTX 560 at full settings (Metro 2033 and the new Hard Reset demo). The GTX 570 is only slightly slower, and you can lower the settings to hit the 60 fps barrier (30 fps x 2 eyes).


Are you saying gtx 570 is slower and lower quality than gtx 560 ti for 3d vision gaming? If so why do they cost more?
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a c 104 U Graphics card
September 10, 2011 11:27:15 PM

Matto made a typing error i think, What he meant was a 580 according to his members config.
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September 11, 2011 12:48:02 AM

GreenDutchAlien said:
Matto made a typing error i think, What he meant was a 580 according to his members config.

Yep, sorry, I meant to say on my GTX 580. The performance of the GTX 570 is just a hair below. I don't regularly overclock, so an overclocked 570 will be very close in performance.
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September 11, 2011 1:23:34 AM

I also think matto17secs is making an error in meaning. I believe he's talking about 3D graphics in the traditional manner, not 3D vision. With 470's in SLI, at 1080p in 3D vision, I can't come close to playing Metro 2033 maxed out. I have to play at low settings in Dx11 or medium-high settings at Dx10.

The truth is, most games support 3D vision fairly well, but most games have some sort of bug of some sort. Examples:
Dirt 3 - mostly in the menu system, some items are not at the right depth.
Sacred 2 - shadows are not rendered at the depth (it's advised to turn off shadows)
Gothic 3 - the sky is at the wrong depth
Lara Croft: Underworld - the sky is at the wrong depth
Dragon Age 2 - some objects are at the wrong depth
Titan Quest - mostly good, but on the outside edges of the screen there is some rendering errors.

Mostly the issues are small and can be ignored, but it's not perfect.

The game that has the best 3D vision quality I've played, with virtually no issues, was Crysis 2 in Dx9. Dx11 is just a little too demanding for a pair of 470's. At least for me (FPS are mostly in the 30's, but that causes me motion sickness).
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September 11, 2011 1:43:30 AM

bystander said:
I also think matto17secs is making an error in meaning. I believe he's talking about 3D graphics in the traditional manner, not 3D vision. With 470's in SLI, at 1080p in 3D vision, I can't come close to playing Metro 2033 maxed out. I have to play at low settings in Dx11 or medium-high settings at Dx10.

The truth is, most games support 3D vision fairly well, but most games have some sort of bug of some sort. Examples:
Dirt 3 - mostly in the menu system, some items are not at the right depth.
Sacred 2 - shadows are not rendered at the depth (it's advised to turn off shadows)
Gothic 3 - the sky is at the wrong depth
Lara Croft: Underworld - the sky is at the wrong depth
Dragon Age 2 - some objects are at the wrong depth
Titan Quest - mostly good, but on the outside edges of the screen there is some rendering errors.

Mostly the issues are small and can be ignored, but it's not perfect.

The game that has the best 3D vision quality I've played, with virtually no issues, was Crysis 2 in Dx9. Dx11 is just a little too demanding for a pair of 470's. At least for me (FPS are mostly in the 30's, but that causes me motion sickness).


Okay thanks for the input. But is it possible to switch between Dx9 to Dx11 on the spot, without switching GPU's?
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September 11, 2011 2:15:55 AM

otaku3230 said:
Okay thanks for the input. But is it possible to switch between Dx9 to Dx11 on the spot, without switching GPU's?


In Metro 2033, it's simply a graphics option. In some games you have to use a different .exe. The graphics card does not determine what DX version the software uses. It just determines what DX versions are available.
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a c 647 U Graphics card
September 11, 2011 2:24:47 AM

My comment was that you can get a good 60 fps in 99.9% of games to make 3D Vision playable, just avoid high settings in Metro 2033 and the Hard Reset demo, probably Dragon Age 2 as well. By the way, be sure to check out the Hard Reset demo on Steam, it rocks.
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September 11, 2011 2:31:41 AM

17seconds said:
My comment was that you can get a good 60 fps in 99.9% of games to make 3D Vision playable, just avoid high settings in Metro 2033 and the Hard Reset demo, probably Dragon Age 2 as well. By the way, be sure to check out the Hard Reset demo on Steam, it rocks.


Just to clarify, u r talking about 580 and 570 right and not 560 ti?
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a c 647 U Graphics card
September 11, 2011 6:09:37 AM

otaku3230 said:
Just to clarify, u r talking about 580 and 570 right and not 560 ti?

Correct.
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a c 217 U Graphics card
September 11, 2011 6:21:27 AM

I think your percentage is too high personally. Even with 470's in SLI, I don't get that in non 3D vision. There are a lot of demanding games, but the good news is that you don't need 60 FPS for good performance and with 3D vision, you don't need as high of settings for it to look good.

I'm not sure you've used 3D vision or not, but I'm guessing that you don't. You do have to be aware that if you get 60 fps without 3D vision, you'll get about 30 FPS with. For every frame with 3D vision, the card has to create 2 images, one for each eye.
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September 11, 2011 7:42:17 AM

bystander said:
I think your percentage is too high personally. Even with 470's in SLI, I don't get that in non 3D vision. There are a lot of demanding games, but the good news is that you don't need 60 FPS for good performance and with 3D vision, you don't need as high of settings for it to look good.

I'm not sure you've used 3D vision or not, but I'm guessing that you don't. You do have to be aware that if you get 60 fps without 3D vision, you'll get about 30 FPS with. For every frame with 3D vision, the card has to create 2 images, one for each eye.


So what is your estimate on playing 3d vision with 1 gtx 570 gpu and cpu i5-2500k both somewhat OC?
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September 11, 2011 11:44:27 AM

most games run fine with a gtx 560ti {a good one from evga or msi or sumtii}

with a good cpu that card will get +60 in most games at max detail

{ not with crysis and metro ofcourse}
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a c 217 U Graphics card
September 11, 2011 3:38:08 PM

otaku3230 said:
So what is your estimate on playing 3d vision with 1 gtx 570 gpu and cpu i5-2500k both somewhat OC?


It depends on the game, and it's hard to say completely, but if you take your typical games benchmarks, divide by 2 to get the 3D vision FPS. However, it's not always that simple, sometimes it does better than that.

Keep in mind, I don't have a 570, I have two 470's. 470's in SLI should be faster than a 570. When I play Sacred 2, my FPS are in the 40's and drops into the teens if I use certain spells (the mage cloud spell for example). When I play Dragon Age 1 or 2, my FPS are in the 30's and 40's. With Metro 2033, I couldn't use DX11 without dropping too many graphics options, but with the Dx9 version, I could have it on high if I remember right, but the FPS are not 60. Crysis, with Dx11 was in the 30's, but Dx9 gives me near 60 FPS.

Every game is different.

Edit: I'm having a hard time believing a lot of the posts in this thread. It seems like most people giving thoughts are talking about normal gaming benchmarks, and not 3D vision. Maybe I'm mistaken, but it would be great to hear from those giving estimates about whether they are giving their 3D vision FPS, or their normal 3D gaming FPS.
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a b U Graphics card
September 11, 2011 4:00:13 PM

You will average 30 fps or more in 99% of games, but the minimums will be an issue in some more demanding games. I can average over 40 fps playing crysis 2 in dx11 in 3d (but only at 1680x1050 with GTX 465s), but in the really busy spots it can dip down around 20 and that is disorienting in 3D when you turn the characters head quickly and it has to pan the whole screen really fast and it gets jumpy. There are probably fewer than a dozen titles that demanding on the graphics card though.
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