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November 8, 2011 7:36:20 PM

Hi guys,

This is my first time buying a gaming PC. First of all, I am surprised that Cyberpower can sell me a customized PC for only $55 more after all shipping and taxes. So it is pretty much if I want to save $55 and build it myself. This is what I am looking for in my PC.

1) 7.1 HD audio for high end headphones (movies & games)
2) 3D gaming ready
3) HDMI
4) Bluetooth (I think there are bluetooth USB adapters)
5) Wireless internet (I think there are bluetooth USB adapters so motherboard
may not need to have it)
6) Firewire
7) Running Battlefield 3 at least 30 frames per second on Ultra
8) Crossfire/SLi ready for future upgrading

Question # 1:

How can I be sure that the parts that I bought from Newegg are compatible? I did choose these parts based on configurator on Cyberpower so it should work. But it would really stink if I bought all these parts and it keep crashing when I run the PC. How can I be make sure these parts can run well together?

Question # 2:

Would you buy from Cyberpower or build it yourself? It is just $55 more but I see some bad reviews on Cyberpower which makes me lean towards building it myself. My reasoning is that when parts come in, I can assemble it more carefully than operators on an assembly line and also I don't have to worry about parts coming loose or getting damaged because of shipping. But cyberpower has 3 year warranty and if things don't work together, I can send it back to them to troubleshoot whereas if my newegg parts don't work together, I have no idea how to troubleshoot myself. Could it be a faulty CPU, graphics card, memory or whatever that's causing the PC to hang/crash/bluescreen? That would be a nightmare to me.

Anyway, here are the details of my 2 choices.

Buying parts from Newegg = $1418 + Windows 7 $99 = $1517

Qty. Product Description Savings Total Price
1
Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822148697
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $149.99
1
EVGA 012-P3-1571-KR GeForce GTX 570 HD w/Display-Port (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814130613
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy $339.99
2
Rosewill 2+1 Port Firewire/1394a Low-Profile PCI Card (Cable Bundle) Model RC-501
Item #: N82E16815265002
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$3.00 Instant $25.98
$19.98
1
Corsair Carbide Series 400R Graphite grey and black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case
Item #: N82E16811139008
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $5.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$99.99
1
CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850 V2 850W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139022
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$25.00 Instant
$10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$159.99
$134.99
1
Zonet ZEW1642S PCI Wireless Adapter w/Fixed Antennas
Item #: N82E16833130073
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$6.00 Instant $24.99
$18.99
1
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K
Item #: N82E16819115070
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy $319.99
1
GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD4 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813128507
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$10.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$209.99
$199.99
1
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMP4GX3M2A1600C9
Item #: N82E16820145296
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy $52.99
1
LG Black Super Multi Blue Internal SATA 12x Blu-ray Disc Rewriter SATA WH12LS38 LightScribe Support
Item #: N82E16827136239
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $81.99

Cyberpower PC configuration

•CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-2600K 3.40 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified)
•HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
•MEMORY: 4GB (2GBx2) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Module [-37] (Corsair XMS Gaming Memory with Heat Spreader)
•MOTHERBOARD: * [CrossFireX/SLI] GigaByte GA-Z68XP-UD4 Intel Z68 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ Intel Smart Response Technology & 7.1 Dolby Home Theater Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, 4x SATA-III RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1 & 2 PCI (All Venom OC Certified) [+101]
•SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
•VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+165] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
•LG Black Super Multi Blue Internal SATA 12x Blu-ray Disc Rewriter SATA WH12LS38 LightScribe Support
•CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX850 V2 850W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply

Subtotal: $1,497.00
ethod: Please select UPS Ground UPS 3 Day UPS 2 Day UPS 1 Day APO Priority Mail Pick Up (CA residents only) UPS Ground (for Canada) Charge: $75.00
Fuel surcharge: $0.00

Grand Total: $1,572.00

a b B Homebuilt system
November 8, 2011 7:49:30 PM

Cyberpower may seem like good value but most of the time they are going to use sub par quality PSU's and sometimes cases. Building it yourself is far more rewarding anyway.

1) Most high end headphones are USB and so don't use your sound drivers, they have their own built in.

2) Most modern (especially high end) GPUs are fine for 3d, it's the monitor you want to look at.

3) Virtually all GPU's have HDMI

4) + 5) I would just get USB or PCI devices for bluetooth and wireless.

6) Not a lot of boards support firewire but it's not impossible to find, Gigabyte seem to have them most often in my experience.

7) I think you would be looking at a minimum of a GTX 560Ti or HD 6950 1GB.

8) Being Crossfire/SLI ready is only recommended for short term ie. within 6 months. If you wait until your card is outdated then you will be SLI'ing an outdated card which is not recommended.

#1 People here will not you know if things aren't compatible. EDIT: *Will LET you know

#2 Build it yourself, you can make sure every part is good quality and well built. It is also more rewarding and you can get help with any faults on the forums. Even if it was the same price I would recommend building it yourself so saving cash is just a bonus.

Looking at the builds, I don't think you need an i7. i7's are designed for workstation tasks, an i5 will perform equally well in gaming for $100 less. I would also forget SLI unless you plan to do it within 6 months for reasons mentioned above. This will save even more money on the PSU and motherboard so you can just get a better build now.

Give me a minute and I'll show you what I would suggest and explain why.
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November 8, 2011 8:13:53 PM

Intel Core i5-2500k - $219.99

Will perform just as well as the i7 in games but frees up some funds for other things, a no brainer really.

2x4GB Corsair Vengeance LP - $48.99

4GB is enough for games at the moment but RAM is cheap so most people go with 8GB. I went with this model because it's low profile so you don't have to worry about whether CPU heatsinks will fit over it and would wouldn't even notice the performance difference between these and those dominators.

ASRock Z68 EXTREME4 GEN3 - $184.99

Decent board with PCI-e 3.0, SATA 3, USB 3.0, Firewire, good overclocking, SLI capability and good reviews all at a reasonable price. What more could you want? :) 

EVGA GTX 570 1.28GB (Fermi) - $339.99

Plenty of power for whatever you want to throw at it with some nice overclocking headroom. Also has the HDMI port.

Antec BP550 Plus - $69.99

Nice reliable, modular PSU with 80 Plus and plenty of power for this setup even with overclocking.

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $149.99

Hard drives are at rip-off prices at the moment but it's no ones fault and if you're going to bite the bullet and buy one you might as well buy a good one. This one is the fastest in it's class with a nice amount of storage.

Corsair Carbide Series 400R - $99.99

A case really is personal preference and there is certainly nothing wrong with this one so I left it in the build.

LG Blu Ray Burner - $79.99

Again, personal preference so I just left it there.


Total - $1193.92 before shipping and rebates.


That shouldn't have any problems running games at ultra high settings, even when it starts to show it's age that graphics card has good overclocking potential.

With the remaining $300 or so you shouldn't have much of a problem finding a decent monitor and headset. With the headset you should give the Corsair HS1 a try, I have that one myself albeit not the USB version and it's nice. Very comfortable with decent sound quality and 5.1. It is also very well priced.

EDIT: Something else I would consider is changing the HDD for a 500GB model, getting a slightly cheaper case like the CM Storm Scout, getting a slightly cheaper motherboard if you don't mind doing without SLI and PCI-e 3.0 then get a DVD burner instead of Blu Ray. These barely noticeable differences should free up enough funds for a SSD which would be very nice in a build like this. Speeds up loading/booting times dramatically. The Crucial M4 128GB is a nice choice:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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November 9, 2011 1:02:37 AM

Wow, thank you so much for such a detailed reply. It is very helpful and I really appreciate it. Nice to know that there are people willing to spend so much time to help others. :) 

So from what you said, no one really knows if parts would be compatible or not so it is sort of a gamble. From my research, it does seem like most likely, the parts should be compatible if they all fit to the motherboard and case. Like I said in my post, the only reason I would consider cyberpower is because they can troubleshoot for me if for some reason, PC keeps crashing or not work well.

The parts that you recommended to me, how sure are you that they are compatible? Not asking for a guarantee but maybe you have seen people put them together and it worked well?

Thanks again!

jmsellars1 said:
Intel Core i5-2500k - $219.99

Will perform just as well as the i7 in games but frees up some funds for other things, a no brainer really.

2x4GB Corsair Vengeance LP - $48.99

4GB is enough for games at the moment but RAM is cheap so most people go with 8GB. I went with this model because it's low profile so you don't have to worry about whether CPU heatsinks will fit over it and would wouldn't even notice the performance difference between these and those dominators.

ASRock Z68 EXTREME4 GEN3 - $184.99

Decent board with PCI-e 3.0, SATA 3, USB 3.0, Firewire, good overclocking, SLI capability and good reviews all at a reasonable price. What more could you want? :) 

EVGA GTX 570 1.28GB (Fermi) - $339.99

Plenty of power for whatever you want to throw at it with some nice overclocking headroom. Also has the HDMI port.

Antec BP550 Plus - $69.99

Nice reliable, modular PSU with 80 Plus and plenty of power for this setup even with overclocking.

Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB - $149.99

Hard drives are at rip-off prices at the moment but it's no ones fault and if you're going to bite the bullet and buy one you might as well buy a good one. This one is the fastest in it's class with a nice amount of storage.

Corsair Carbide Series 400R - $99.99

A case really is personal preference and there is certainly nothing wrong with this one so I left it in the build.

LG Blu Ray Burner - $79.99

Again, personal preference so I just left it there.


Total - $1193.92 before shipping and rebates.


That shouldn't have any problems running games at ultra high settings, even when it starts to show it's age that graphics card has good overclocking potential.

With the remaining $300 or so you shouldn't have much of a problem finding a decent monitor and headset. With the headset you should give the Corsair HS1 a try, I have that one myself albeit not the USB version and it's nice. Very comfortable with decent sound quality and 5.1. It is also very well priced.

EDIT: Something else I would consider is changing the HDD for a 500GB model, getting a slightly cheaper case like the CM Storm Scout, getting a slightly cheaper motherboard if you don't mind doing without SLI and PCI-e 3.0 then get a DVD burner instead of Blu Ray. These barely noticeable differences should free up enough funds for a SSD which would be very nice in a build like this. Speeds up loading/booting times dramatically. The Crucial M4 128GB is a nice choice:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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November 9, 2011 1:07:13 AM

Your paying a lot for your RAM and its only 4GB, there is 8GB RAM on newegg for around $46
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 9, 2011 6:55:40 PM

There is no reason why all of that wouldn't work together really, if it doesn't then chances are something is faulty.

I am sure of this because I have built plenty of computers and all of the connectors match up.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 11, 2011 5:16:16 PM

So have you finalized a build by now?
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