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December 9, 2010 3:18:22 AM

Hello!

I have been googling for a long time and I still haven't found solution to my problem.

Well, I'm a gamer and I play FPS games(CS 1.6) and I'm getting terrible lag spikes.Like ping is 30 and then it goes 80 and then it lowers again.And I repeats whole time, which makes gaming difficult.[Quiting is not a solution]

Now, I've made a traceroute

  1. Tracing route to neti.ee [195.50.209.246]
  2. over a maximum of 30 hops:
  3.  
  4. 1 82 ms 51 ms 32 ms 192.168.*.10
  5. 2 20 ms 46 ms 23 ms 81-21-242-209.televork.ee [81.21.*.209]
  6. 3 41 ms 37 ms 32 ms kjj-bb4-ge-0-0-1-0.ee.estpak.ee [195.250.*.1]
  7.  
  8. 4 38 ms 32 ms 30 ms kjj-bb2-xe-8-2-0-0.ee.estpak.ee [194.126.*.93]
  9.  
  10. 5 85 ms 31 ms 27 ms kjj-sr2-xe-0-0-0-0.ee.estpak.ee [90.190.*.105]
  11.  
  12. 6 27 ms 38 ms 39 ms kjj-lgw7.ee.estpak.ee [194.126.*102]
  13. 7 27 ms 36 ms 29 ms neti.ee [195.50.*.246]
  14.  
  15. Trace complete.


My connection : I don't know the real type of my connection.However it's like that - I got two routers
1)Linksys Wrt54g2 that divides the internet to mine and my sisters computer(It just devides)
2)Then there is somekind of broadband router[From Edimax] that get signal from Linksys router and sends signal to local internet mast(tower or something.ISP thing that takes my signal and sends it to ISP headquarter)

[At TCP/IP settings I use a IP to connect to the ISP and it doesn't connect automaticly]

Some pictures of my settings -

http://img152.imageshack.us/i/64071106.png
http://img543.imageshack.us/i/asdasdasdb.png
http://img405.imageshack.us/i/sadasdasdk.png
http://img413.imageshack.us/i/settingsq.png


Thanks!

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December 9, 2010 2:57:22 PM

anyone?
December 9, 2010 6:41:31 PM

during the LAG spikes is your sister streaming video or surfing the net? Maybe downloading music/anything? Is your WIFI encrypted? Have you updated your routers firmware?
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December 9, 2010 6:53:12 PM

tkrl26 said:
during the LAG spikes is your sister streaming video or surfing the net? Maybe downloading music/anything? Is your WIFI encrypted? Have you updated your routers firmware?



Thanks for a response!

Well, we have 2 different IPs that connect to ISP, so if she's downloading something then that should effect me unless router slows down or something.

My linksys firmware is updated to dd-wrt one, nothing done to Edimax.

December 9, 2010 7:28:36 PM

Are they two different connections, or one connection with two routers, making two different LAN's?

If its one connection to the ISP with two routers, everything from both networks will effect the latency of your connection. This is because its all being crammed through one connection which is limited to the (Max up and down) speed you are allowed set by the ISP.

December 10, 2010 3:31:29 AM

tkrl26 said:
Are they two different connections, or one connection with two routers, making two different LAN's?

If its one connection to the ISP with two routers, everything from both networks will effect the latency of your connection. This is because its all being crammed through one connection which is limited to the (Max up and down) speed you are allowed set by the ISP.



II'll try to explain again - My and my sisters comps are set on 2 different static IPs[One ends with .1.68 and other .1.67]

We used to get IP through linksys router, which was one IP, but then we asked IP another one.So now Linksys router is just a inbetweener.When signal is sent to Linksys router, it sends it without doing it to the Edimax router, then that sends signal to antenna and that to internet mast(tower) and then the ISP receives it.

So I quess we are connect with two different IPs to the ISP, so our Inet bandwidth is equal and not connected with eachother.

My internet speed is 50kb/s, so has my sister
December 10, 2010 8:40:43 AM

The Linksys router is connected to Edimax router?
This is your router - Linksys by Cisco Wireless-G Broadband Router WRT54G2 so both you and your sister is connected by wire because you mention IP on both of you. You don't need the Edimax - The setup is like this you have a modem which connect to your router then the PCs either be connected by wire or wireless.

It could be that one of the router is used as an access point to get signal from the nearby hot spot.
December 10, 2010 12:10:22 PM

dEAne said:
The Linksys router is connected to Edimax router?
This is your router - Linksys by Cisco Wireless-G Broadband Router WRT54G2 so both you and your sister is connected by wire because you mention IP on both of you. You don't need the Edimax - The setup is like this you have a modem which connect to your router then the PCs either be connected by wire or wireless.

It could be that one of the router is used as an access point to get signal from the nearby hot spot.


Edimax router has an antenna port, that's why I need it.And I need Linksys router to divide internet between my sister and my comp, because Edimax router as only one lan port
December 11, 2010 3:12:33 PM

quess noone can answer
December 12, 2010 5:30:59 AM

Quote:
hi hents1230

go to cmd prompt enter the following please

ipconfig /flushdns
netsh winsock reset
netsh winsock reset catalog
netsh interface ip reset c:\DAF-interface-resetlog.txt
netsh interface reset all
netsh firewall reset

reboot

trace rote post it here
then ipconfig /all

from your and your sisters computer please

post it here


From My computer

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

>tracert n*ti.ee

Tracing route to neti.ee [195.50.*.246]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 20 ms 28 ms 19 ms 192.168.*.10
2 23 ms 24 ms 26 ms 81-21-*-209.televork.ee [81.21.*.209]
3 21 ms 25 ms 24 ms kjj-bb4-ge-0-0-1-0.ee.estpak.ee [195.*.170.1]

4 19 ms 26 ms 24 ms kjj-bb2-xe-8-2-0-0.ee.estpak.ee [194.*.123.93]

5 25 ms 25 ms 26 ms kjj-sr2-xe-0-0-0-0.ee.estpak.ee [90.*.134.105]

6 74 ms 21 ms 23 ms kjj-lgw7.ee.estpak.ee [194.126.*.102]
7 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms neti.ee [195.50.*.246]

Trace complete.


Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ev*rest
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter LAN:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-24-1D-DE-DE-17
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.*.68
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 81.*.240.1
81.*.255.1



Internet connection has gone smoother.
I'll get my sisters results later as she's sleeping atm
December 12, 2010 6:41:24 AM

Quote:
please update the firmware on your router aswell


I rebooted.You commands deleted my IP and DNS server addresses, so I had to add them again.Without them I've got no connection.

Linksys router is running on latest DD-WRT firmware and for Edimax, there's no updates.
December 12, 2010 6:42:42 AM

Quote:
and i cant help you if you star out the ip numbers.


Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : everest
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter LAN:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-24-1D-DE-DE-17
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.68
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 81.21.240.1
81.21.255.1


Tracing route to neti.ee [195.50.209.246]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 23 ms 26 ms 20 ms 192.168.1.10
2 25 ms 26 ms 26 ms 81-21-242-209.televork.ee [81.21.242.209]
3 20 ms 26 ms 26 ms kjj-bb4-ge-0-0-1-0.ee.estpak.ee [195.250.170.1]

4 20 ms 24 ms 27 ms kjj-bb2-xe-8-2-0-0.ee.estpak.ee [194.126.123.93]

5 24 ms 26 ms 28 ms kjj-sr2-xe-0-0-0-0.ee.estpak.ee [90.190.134.105]

6 25 ms 25 ms 25 ms kjj-lgw7.ee.estpak.ee [194.126.96.102]
7 24 ms 24 ms 26 ms neti.ee [195.50.209.246]

Trace complete.


December 12, 2010 8:16:51 AM

Quote:
Xp ok. Do you have the patched tcip or unpatched one. Because by default windows xp only allow 10 simulations connections. Google for a app called tcip patcher. you can patch it on the fly without installing anything and increase your connections to 256. Disable your firewall and test your connection. Do you have a anti virus on your pc?


First off, Thanks for helping me and wasting your own time.

No, I haven't patched TCP/IP, but I'll do it now.I took windows firewall off and I don't have any other anti-virus protection program installed.It's just a gaming PC and I just play online games with it.

The reason why DHCP is off, is my father and he's friend played Age of Empires multiplayer over Internet mast[Kinda like lan, but they were at their homes.]However, to enable that, they had to turn DCHP off and give all computers IP's.
December 13, 2010 11:28:24 AM

Quote:
ok they did portforwarding. how many computers are there on the network? how many routers?

i need a ipconfig from one of the other pcs aswell. when they portforward it they set only on pcs static ip. they shouldve set all of them. because dhcp will hand out ips to other pcs which will end with a ip conflict. check if there aint any static ip set on the router aswell.



There are mostly 2 computers connected : mine and my sisters.However, sometimes my father surfs internet on laptop through WIFI.

My sisters PC

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\J23>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : kodu123-8456230
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethe
rnet NIC
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-D1-52-38-84
Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.67
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 81.21.240.1
81.21.255.1

C:\Documents and Settings\J123>

My laptop,which my father uses

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\H23ri>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Henri-Notebook
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter

Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-22-69-89-16-37
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::1483:550d:ce69:D a60%12(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.69(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 218112617
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-14-54-CF-E5-00-1E-EC-5F-9D-8D

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 81.21.240.1
81.21.255.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter isatap.{592177B6-79F3-4596-8EC1-D0B8934B3141}:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:4137:9e76:3cab:15a3:3f57:feba(Pref
erred)
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::3cab:15a3:3f57:feba%13(Preferred)
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

C:\Users\23i>



I got a question about MTU.Which MTU i should use or is the best for me?
My speedtest :

Thanks:) 
December 13, 2010 12:13:42 PM

Are you using DSL? What kind of service do you have? What bandwidth are you paying for?
December 13, 2010 12:44:56 PM

Psychoteddy said:
Are you using DSL? What kind of service do you have? What bandwidth are you paying for?



I don't really know my connection type.Read the posts, mby you'll figure it out.

I'm playing CS 1.6 so bandwidth isn't not high

service?
December 13, 2010 1:00:33 PM

You really need to figure out what type of connection you have. It's vital to troubleshooting WAN networks like this. Does the connection run through your phone lines or through your cable TV lines?
December 13, 2010 1:15:23 PM

Psychoteddy said:
You really need to figure out what type of connection you have. It's vital to troubleshooting WAN networks like this. Does the connection run through your phone lines or through your cable TV lines?


I got somekind of receiver/antenna on top of my house, which takes and sends signals to the ISP mast/tower/[it's like 300m away, without any obsticales blocking the view]what ever you wanna call it.That tower sends it to ISPs headquater.[Like 30km from where I live]What happens after, dont know

About routers : One router is sending/receving signals and router other just divides it to my and my sisters computers.

thats it.
December 13, 2010 1:31:23 PM

hents1230 said:
I got somekind of receiver/antenna on top of my house, which takes and sends signals to the ISP mast/tower/[it's like 300m away, without any obsticales blocking the view]what ever you wanna call it.That tower sends it to ISPs headquater.[Like 30km from where I live]What happens after, dont know

About routers : One router is sending/receving signals and router other just divides it to my and my sisters computers.

thats it.

Sounds like an optical connection directly to your ISP's local hub. These can run into a lot of problems with things getting in the way. 30 km is a lot of ground to cover with no obstruction. How high is the mast on your house?
December 13, 2010 1:57:03 PM

Psychoteddy said:
Sounds like an optical connection directly to your ISP's local hub. These can run into a lot of problems with things getting in the way. 30 km is a lot of ground to cover with no obstruction. How high is the mast on your house?


antenna on my house isn't high - It's like 7m from the ground.The ISP mast is about 30m tall atleast.And the ISP headquarter's receiver is much higher.
December 13, 2010 2:28:36 PM

hents1230 said:
antenna on my house isn't high - It's like 7m from the ground.The ISP mast is about 30m tall atleast.And the ISP headquarter's receiver is much higher.


I misunderstood you, I thought that you were transmitting to the ISP HQ 30 Km away :p 

That doesn't sound like the issue then.

.48 Mbps is PAINFULLY slow. The problem lies with your ISP, I guarantee it. Get ahold of them and raise hell until they come out and troubleshoot it. Your actual latency is fine, but your bandwidth is garbage. When you call I'd ask them first what speed you're supposed to get BEFORE going into troubleshooting or mentioning anything about trouble with your connection. If it's anything over 768Kbps, then they need to fix the issue.
December 13, 2010 2:33:48 PM

Psychoteddy said:
I misunderstood you, I thought that you were transmitting to the ISP HQ 30 Km away :p 

That doesn't sound like the issue then.

.48 Mbps is PAINFULLY slow. The problem lies with your ISP, I guarantee it. Get ahold of them and raise hell until they come out and troubleshoot it. Your actual latency is fine, but your bandwidth is garbage. When you call I'd ask them first what speed you're supposed to get BEFORE going into troubleshooting or mentioning anything about trouble with your connection. If it's anything over 768Kbps, then they need to fix the issue.


So I can't do anything more?Even for CS bandwidth is ***?

Problem is : it's a free internet.Local municipality is owning the ISP and they made so, that internet to this region is completly free.And what is even worse, there isn't anymore around that offers internet, even for money.

My Cousin works for the municipality and for the ISP, I'll ask him if there is something that they could do.

Thanks for help:) 
December 13, 2010 2:37:32 PM

No problem :) 

Yes, this is low enough bandwidth to cause issues with online gaming such as CS. Esp if this is split b/w you and your sister.

Good luck, I'm sorry to hear that the government has monopolized the internet service in your area :(  Maybe you should start your own ISP!!! :D 
December 13, 2010 2:51:23 PM

Psychoteddy said:
No problem :) 

Yes, this is low enough bandwidth to cause issues with online gaming such as CS. Esp if this is split b/w you and your sister.

Good luck, I'm sorry to hear that the government has monopolized the internet service in your area :(  Maybe you should start your own ISP!!! :D 


lol:D 
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