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November 9, 2011 7:31:10 PM

Hey , I just recently purchased a gaming pc.... But my mate has given me doubts saying I overpayed? I havnt received the pc yet so I can still cancel. Also this is my first "Gaming Pc" I am just wondering will I be able to play all games at ultra settings on a 22" hd monitor? Thanks in advance.

Here are the specs!

Case
PCS MAELSTROM T900 BLACK GAMING CASE

Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™i7-2600k Quad Core (3.40GHz, 8MB Cache) + HD Graphics


Motherboard
ASUS® P8Z68-V LX: USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, ATI®CrossFireX

Memory (RAM)
8GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (2 x 4GB KIT)

Graphics Card
1.5GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 580 - 2 DVI, HDMI, DP - 3D Vision Ready

Memory - 1st Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR GREEN WD10EARX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE

1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
4x BLU-RAY ROM DRIVE, 16x DVD ROM

Memory Card Reader
INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT

Power Supply
600W Quiet 80 PLUS Quad Rail PSU + 120mm Case Fan

Processor Cooling
COOLIT ECO II A.L.C (ADVANCED LIQUID COOLER)

Sound Card
Sound Blaster® Audigy™ SE

Network Facilities
ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs

USB Options
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD


Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit - inc DVD & Licence

Speakers
LOGITECH S120 2.0 BLACK SPEAKER SYSTEM

£1250, is it legit or... did I overpay?

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a c 93 B Homebuilt system
November 9, 2011 7:58:57 PM

Sound card isn't necessary, I don't know how good that liquid cooler is, and I wouldn't trust a no name PSU. Otherwise everything else looks good.
November 9, 2011 8:10:09 PM

I saw some reviews on the cooler its apprently pretty good, or so they say
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November 9, 2011 8:14:30 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Sound card isn't necessary, I don't know how good that liquid cooler is, and I wouldn't trust a no name PSU. Otherwise everything else looks good.

apprently its a FSP Group Inc PSU?
November 9, 2011 8:24:45 PM

I would say £1250 is about right, so I wouldn't take any notice of your mate.

FSP dont make very good power supplys. Is this a pre-built computer? If it is a pre-built computer were there any other power supply options, that you might be able to swap for?
November 9, 2011 8:39:28 PM

Gothams Finest said:
I would say £1250 is about right, so I wouldn't take any notice of your mate.

FSP dont make very good power supplys. Is this a pre-built computer? If it is a pre-built computer were there any other power supply options, that you might be able to swap for?


Yeah its pre-built from pcspecialist.co.uk I have an option to pick a CORSAIR 650W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX650 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE
November 9, 2011 8:41:41 PM

yes, grab the corsair definitely :)  ... the TX series has some nay sayers but its definitely better then the FSP
November 9, 2011 8:42:30 PM

also I have an ATI crossfire something motherboard, will my nvidia gtx 580 still work perfectly fine?
November 9, 2011 8:45:26 PM

mouse24 said:
yes, grab the corsair definitely :)  ... the TX series has some nay sayers but its definitely better then the FSP


Great thanks I will pick that one then :D  , there are some other corsair options but they are all 800w + which im guessing will be a waste of money
November 9, 2011 8:56:51 PM

well, you could shave off a bit of your build by going with an i5-2500k, but it depends how much more then i7 is :)  if its only about 20 bucks then i would stick with the i7 just because.
November 9, 2011 9:00:47 PM

mouse24 said:
well, you could shave off a bit of your build by going with an i5-2500k, but it depends how much more then i7 is :)  if its only about 20 bucks then i would stick with the i7 just because.


Its a £74 difference, If I switch i7 with i5 I can upgrade gtx 580 1.5gb to 3gb. Im only going to be playing on a 22" monitor so is it worth it you think?
a c 93 B Homebuilt system
November 9, 2011 9:02:20 PM

polioz said:
Its a £74 difference, If I switch i7 with i5 I can upgrade gtx 580 1.5gb to 3gb. Im only going to be playing on a 22" monitor so is it worth it you think?


Absolutely - that would make a huge difference.
November 9, 2011 9:13:54 PM

g-unit1111 said:
Absolutely - that would make a huge difference.


mmm interesting I went on http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html the 2600k is rated 10k and 2500k 7500, is it really a 25% difference in speed? or will that even not matter for gaming that much at this level and the extra 3gb gfx would benefit me more? Sorry im just making sure thanks for help so far

Also will the gtx 580 3gb has 2 fans , wont that be extremely loud? or not as much as they wont have to work as hard
November 10, 2011 12:01:36 AM

ah but those are sythetic benchmarks and not real life apps :)  they are heavily multi threaded and can take advantage of more then 4 cores. games however cannot take advantage of more then 4 at this point in time

so yes, save the money and get the better gfx :) 
November 11, 2011 3:27:20 PM

What resolution is your monitor polioz? I'm going to presume that it isn't any higher than 1920x1080 because you said it was 22". If it isn't any higher than 1920x1080 then the 3GB will make absolutely no difference in performance for you what so ever, don't take any notice of "g-unit"

3GB is for extremely high resolution monitors and multi monitor set ups.

The 2500k will be a good choice if you are only gaming, as you can save yourself a fair bit of money. The 2600k has the same performance in games as the 2500k does. The only benefit the 2600k has over the 2500k is hyper threading which will only benefit you if you use programs that use hyper threading, games do not use hyper threading.
November 11, 2011 7:41:32 PM

Gothams Finest said:
What resolution is your monitor polioz? I'm going to presume that it isn't any higher than 1920x1080 because you said it was 22". If it isn't any higher than 1920x1080 then the 3GB will make absolutely no difference in performance for you what so ever, don't take any notice of "g-unit"

3GB is for extremely high resolution monitors and multi monitor set ups.

The 2500k will be a good choice if you are only gaming, as you can save yourself a fair bit of money. The 2600k has the same performance in games as the 2500k does. The only benefit the 2600k has over the 2500k is hyper threading which will only benefit you if you use programs that use hyper threading, games do not use hyper threading.


Yeah the monitor im planning on buying is a 1080p 22" so Im assuming its 1920x1080 , I had a choice between 3gb and 1.5gb gtx 580 so I chose the 3gb as it didnt make much difference in the price and I couldnt get the 580 as its about £150 more expensive than the 3gb. Do you think in the future the 3gb will benefit me, as im not really planning to change my setup much in the next 5 years.
November 11, 2011 9:00:54 PM

Ah well fair enough if there wasn't much difference in price.

It will only benefit you if you decide in the future you would like a multi monitor set up or a monitor with very high resolution, by the time games require 3GB of VRAM for 1080p the 580 will be obsolete.
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a b B Homebuilt system
March 13, 2012 9:28:31 PM

I have chosen pretty much the EXACT same spec as the above, apart from a HD 7950 instead of GTX580. Do you all think this is a better or worse choice =s? I have had a look at a fair amount of benchmarking (actual feedback from games, not theorised from GPU statistics), and the 7950 came out JUST on top of the 580. And seen as it's a little cheaper, I chose this. What do you all think?

I agree with the above people that say for your single monitor at your resolution, the GTX580 1.5gb will be just as good as the 3gb, (well atleast nothing you will notice with the naked eye). But atleast now you have the option to plug your PC into your HDTV if you ever felt like it, (a 1.5gb would struggle more). Geforce also have a thing called something like PhysicsX, which is supposed to make games physics engine seem more life like, which made me originally want to stick to GeForce, but the list of the games that actually support this is quite small, and not the usual famous gaming titles.

I went with the corsair, (much more reliable than the other cheaper option).

I went with the i7-2600 instead of the i5-2500, as it's a little faster (probably unnoticably so). I hear you can overclock the i5-2500 for better results than stock i7-2600, but I wouldn't know where to start with this personally. If you are getting watercooling this would be an option for you though. I just went with the super silent copper heatsink.

One thing that would speed things up for you, granted for an extra cost, would be if you chose a solid state drive to instal your operating system on, as well as your games, (then just use a 1TB for songs/movies/photos etc).

Drop the sound-card, (not really a noticable benefit, unless your going to fork out for top-notch speakers).

I went for 1600mhz RAM too, but a lot of people advised that I would not benefit from this without overclocking the CPU. It wasn't that much extra, so I went and got 16gb 1600mhz, which I know I will never fully use, but I want to future proof the machine as I plan on a lot of video recording/editing.

Speaking of future proofing... I think the first thing you will upgrade on this machine 5years down the line will be the graphics card. The mobo you chose doesn't have a PCI-E 3.00 slot, so you won't be able to wack in a GPU that makes the most of this technology. No GPU fully saturates PCI-E 2.00 yet, so I have chosen the exact same mobo as you, but it would have been nice to get a PCI-E 3.00 ready mobo for5years from now...

Relax, you haven't overspent. I think it's a decent price, and you will struggle to buy a premade PC of this calibur (with that graphics card), for this price, but have a look around if you want to be sure.

Kind regards,
Atuleon
(Stuart Westbury).
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