Crysis 2 laggs on 5970

Hi!

I've been suspicious about my graphics card for a while now. And all started with Crysis 2. I used to get this weird fragments, strange colors etc. which often indicates that there is something wrong with the graphical card. After I reinstalled Windows it stopped so I figured it was the driver (and it's ATI so I wouldnt be surprised).

The game ran somewhat smoothly on the Enthusiast setting but when Ultra and High Res came out the system again started to get kinda slow and laggy. I thought that it was suppose to be like this because it's kinda intense for the card. But when I heard that a college of mine had a single 5870 and ran at ultra + high res with no lagg I started doing some research.

I mean, how can a single 5870 be better than "World's fastest card" when I bought it.. I ran some tests using 3D mark 11 basic edition and checked my results and compared them to their information and found this:





I also ran Heaven Benchmark and it gave accurate results comparing what I've read from others with a 5970.



I've been going at this for a while now and it was til today that I had enough and wanted some help with this. I tried playing Crysis 2 and in one sequence the entire game lagged so badly that I couldn't even play.

I use the latest drivers and my system is updated.
If there is something wrong with my card and that it's performing badly, how can I prove this for the retailer and get a new one using my warranty? I mean it's working but not as I expected and not according to 3DMark11.

Is there something else I can do about this?

Hardware Specs:

MOBO: ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, Socket-AM3
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition @ 4,0GHz
RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR3 1600MHz 4GB CL8 x2
GFX: HIS Radeon HD 5970 2GB GDDR5
PSU: Corsair HX 1000W PSU
HDD: Crucial RealSSD C300 2,5" 128GB
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14

Very thankful for replies

I'd consider getting a new card, the 5970 isnt really cut for Crysis 2. Try the GTX 570. Best card for the value.

Sorry i forgot my specs

Win 7 64 bit
AMD Phenom 2 x4 940 Black edition @ 3.8
MSI 790gx
4 gig ddr2 Corsair
Asus 6870 1gb gpu @ 1000 / 1100 Tweaked drivers 11.5
2 x 500gig hdds
Antec 900 case CPU Temp @ 28 idle 40 load, gpu @ 38 idle 60 load
LG Flatron 22 inch M228WDP TV monitor + LG LED 3DTV 47 inch

Hi,

I forgot to update the thread. I've solved my problem by some help from the AMD forums.

Apperantly Crysis 2 are using too much tesselation in their games when they don't really have to which makes the game lagg for some user (more for the ATI user than nvidia because nvidia handles tesselation about 10% better)

After I turned off tesselation the game went from laggy as hell to smooth, nice flowing game. I also ran the benchmarks again with a great inprovement.

Check out the original thread at AMD forums:

http://forums.amd.com/game/message [...] forumid=11

Same here with my 570. Crysis 2 had alot of issues with xfire scaling for the longest time, I wonder if they have another bug they haven't fixed yet. If your friend runs it smooth with a 5870 maxed then you should be eating it alive. NVIDIA tessellation scaling should have nothing to do with it if your friends runs it fine and your better card doesn't.

There are a few things to consider here.

-What is your resolution, and what was the resolution of that 5870 system.

-What was the CPU on the other system. Your CPU is 6 cores, but not all that fast per core, and Crysis 2 doesn't take advantage of a lot of cores.

-What FPS was that 5870 system getting? A lot of people around here talk about how they can play at max settings, but at 20's and 30's FPS. For many people that feels laggy and makes me sick, to others, like those above saying how their single card eats it for breakfast, they think it's fine.

-Do you have MLAA turned on in the CCC or SSAA?

-You can turn down the Tessellation levels within CCC now, if tessellation is the issue. That was a weak spot for the AMD cards below the 6900 series.

For reference: My 6950's, unlocked and overclocked, averaged 53 FPS in the Crysis 2 benchmark with everything maxed at 1080p.

You shouldn't need to turn it completely off, you should be able to run it at reduced tessellation.

P.S.

I experienced that some fragments in the game were flashing like it has done before so there may be something wrong with the card or the drivers (like they always do). But if there is something wrong with my card, I don't really know what to do to proove it to the store that I bought it from.

They will just test it and say that there is nothing wrong with it.

When I turned Object Graphics down from Ultra to Enthusiast the fragments stopped (dunno if it's even called that). I can't say that I'm very pleased with my card and that it would be nice to just get a GFX580 instead because the drivers are not optimal. You'd think that when ATI sells such an expensive card that they would use the extra cash to hire some real programmers that could manage do make a better driver/utility (CCC)

So how can I fix this? Getting a new card totally or is this a driver issue? Really hard to pinpoint where the trouble is except the tessellation. But I still experience issues with the game like the crazy fragments in the game.

It kinda flashes from objects that doesn't move when I'm also standing still In-game. It's not right =/

HD5xxx doesn't really works well in tesselation...that's one of the reason AMD released the HD6xxx series...

try to downgrade the driver (don't forget the driver sweeper to get a perfect clean install) and/or setting off the tesselation...

I, sir, dont run in the 20's.

I was referring to the 30-45 fps and agreeing with that. I did not say " eats it alive". I would just say runs @ playable fps. Some people like 60 locked and to those, good for ya, I couldn't care less as long as my dips are above 30.

As long as OP has turbo mode on that 1090t should be powering down the 3 unused cores then ocing the 3 remaining cores on its own if the game is using less than 4 cores

Yea. So its probably not your CPU then, most likely your GPU. Your saying that your getting freezes when your GFX activity hits 99%. Well pretty much your maxing out your GPU usage lol. So thats why its freezing... Also, you still might want to upgrade your cooling, 81C is kind of hitting the borderlines of overheating. Most parts can only withstand up to 90-95C before overheating or doing serious damage. Also, the closer you get to your TJ max (as much heat as your parts can take) the less effective they become, as your computer attempts to make them not work as hard, thus creating less heat.

Conclusion: Upgrade your cooling, and your GPU.

I've been hearing that a GPU is suppose to work in between 70C and 80C and as long as the temperature don't exceed 90C you're good and it has never reached that level so I highly doubt it's the cooling or temperature.

I've ran Furmark which is more intensive than Crysis 2 at ultra, pushes my card to 82C at the most.

What I'm still experiencing is the flickering (in crysis 2). It's hard to describe but let's say there is a damage surface on a building and it contains shadows from different light sources. That damaged surface appears and disappears depending on my movement. And if I lower my settings to the lowest which is "High" the effect won't go away.

I've been looking at some forums that there are people that overclock their 5970 on stock cooling to much higher mhz with a good result.

I thought I would give it a try but as soon as I turned up my core mhz just with 5mhz from 725 to 730. My screen would start to flicker in Windows when I moved my windows around. I've been experiencing that too when I watch youtube clips (when it changes clip).

But all you guys say that my graphics card are too slow to run Crysis 2 on Ultra?

I still think there is something wrong with the card since I get strange effects over time.

Take a look at the other GPU. With the newer versions of GPU-Z, it only shows it enabled on one GPU. If both show as disabled, then you have an issue.

OK thanks, I tried looking at the other GPU and crossfire enable. Quick answer to that question :-P

Maybe its the game? Are you having this problem on any other games? Also, like I said before, might also be your GPU trying to conserve power as well, as it is at 99% usage. So it might be trying to use up less power and well perform not as well as to not max itself out... Just an assumption I would reccomend upgrading your card anyways, as its not even that good for newer games coming out. You could also try getting a 2nd, and running the game in crossfire.

^they must think you are talking about much less of a GPU apparently

Well, ik a few people that have the 5970 and have been having lag issues on Call of Duty 5 for crying out loud... So, maybe the design was kind of shitty? Maybe like the GTX 590? I honestly prefer Nvidia, I just find they usually have better products (personal opinion).

Yea the GTX 580 is the best card out on the market right now Should increase your performance quite a bit

hahaha lol nice man have fun!