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FX-4100 + 8gb ram for $145 or 955 be + 4gb for $152

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November 10, 2011 11:01:22 PM

I've been planning on buying Phenom II 955 and a G.skill 2x2GB, which would cost $152. I just noticed Newegg has a combo deal for an FX-4100 and G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB). I know a lot of people were disappointed with Bulldozer and 8GB isn't strictly necessary for gaming. What do you guys think would be a better deal? Should I get the deal and overclock the crap out of the FX-4100 and save $7 or just get the 955? I'm getting an AM3+ anyway so that's not a consideration? Any help is appreciated!

BTW: This will be used for gaming, also does anybody know of any benchmarks comparing the 955 to the fx-4100? I've been looking but didn't see any?
November 10, 2011 11:39:02 PM

Tough one, but the 8gb trumps the 4gb all day...
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November 11, 2011 1:06:42 AM

8 gig of RAM is not important for gaming , but being able to hit close to 5 GHz with the 4100 swings the needle that way IMO
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November 11, 2011 1:38:41 AM

Outlander_04 said:
8 gig of RAM is not important for gaming , but being able to hit close to 5 GHz with the 4100 swings the needle that way IMO


Um...8gb is currently considered the optimal sweet spot for gaming actually.
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November 11, 2011 2:04:45 AM

inanition02 said:
Um...8gb is currently considered the optimal sweet spot for gaming actually.



um.... because its cheap. NOT BECAUSE IT IMPROVES PERFORMANCE .
It cant do that since games are 32 bit , and generally wont use a lot more memory than is on the graphics card anyway .

Smart people with budgets get 2 x2 gig

But go ahead ...find me a benchmark showing noticeable performance gains when using 8 gig of RAM instead of 4
Here
www.google.com
off you go
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November 11, 2011 2:15:26 AM

Why don't you go google yourself a better personality - I didn't even have to leave Toms..

"Based on our measurements and impressions (and taking falling prices into account), we thoroughly recommend a minimum RAM size of 8 GB. Using 12 or 16 GB only makes sense if you're planning on using 4 GB of more of this higher amount as a RAM disk, helping accelerate the reading and writing of temporary files. This applies equally to file compression, video encoding, and heavy image editing."

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ram-memory-upgrade,...

I also direct you to the benchmark of Half-Life on page 8 of that same article.
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November 11, 2011 2:18:40 AM

I also might point out that the article was written a year ago when prices weren't as low...and you think games have become less hardware intensive since then?
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November 11, 2011 2:31:48 AM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ram-memory-upgrade,...

from the article you linked . No noticeable improvement in gaming from shifting upwards from 4 gig , with the exception of a 64 bit mod of Half Life 2

"So far, so annoying. Other than the 64-bit client of Half-Life 2 with the Bombast mod installed, hardly any game sees an increase in frames per second using more RAM."

And since games are still 32 bit there is still no advantage in using 8 gig of RAM vs 4 gig in a gaming build even today

So go ahead ...find me a benchmark showing noticeable performance gains when using 8 gig of RAM instead of 4
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November 11, 2011 2:56:33 AM

Next verse, same as the first -

I point you to that same article, page 6 (discussing why more RAM allows a GPU to breath):

"Summary and Conclusion

In a 64-bit system with a powerful graphics card, 8 GB of RAM really is a must if you're going to play demanding games. This is the case regardless of whether you're using 32-bit or 64-bit applications. However, even more than 8 GB of RAM can be subjectively noticed while playing. There is no real need for 16 GB of RAM, though. Going with 8 GB is quite enough unless you're running some taxing application in the background. We’ll comment more on this subject later, because the problem is often overestimated, as shown in our 64-bit gaming benchmarks."

And to page 7, where it benchmarks times:
http://media.bestofmicro.com/O/U/265278/original/x64_re...

And swap file/HDD usage:
http://media.bestofmicro.com/O/V/265279/original/x64_re...

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November 11, 2011 3:27:57 AM

Okay I went ahead and got the deal. You can stop arguing now.
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November 11, 2011 3:30:05 AM

roflstomp
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