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Anonymous
March 21, 2005 6:42:53 PM

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I was looking at getting one of the new PS2 slimline consoles. I wanted
to know do they have an external hard drive or can you use any USB hard
drive? I haven't seen any playstation ones advertised. If they do not
have a hard drive option, is there any way I could network it to a
computer and use the hard drive from the computer. Mainly all I want is
to be able to save game data onto a hard drive instead of the memory cards.
The next question is, are tehy going to make games so they pick the
soundtrack for the game from off the hard drive, like xbox. this is a
very cool feature of xbox as well as then making the game console into
your own jukebox.
And finally, why is it playstation (and xbox for that matter) don't
actually advertise their peripherals. In the years that PS2 has been
here, I have NEVER ONCE seen an ad for the hard drive, and except for
the PSLive (I think it's called) advertising (pamphlet) that comes with
a few games I have never seen an ad for the network adapter. Even still
I don't know if you are meant to use a crossover cable and only connect
two PS2's together or if you can use a netwrok hub/switch/router, let
alone any PC connectivity that may exist.
Any help/advice appreciated

Matthew
Anonymous
March 21, 2005 6:51:39 PM

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"Matthew Gunn" <matthewgunn_au@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:423e7a3c@quokka.wn.com.au...
> I was looking at getting one of the new PS2 slimline consoles. I wanted
> to know do they have an external hard drive or can you use any USB hard
> drive?

You cannot connect a hard drive to the new slimline PS2. You can connect the
official Sony HDD to the old model PS2, and some models of external hard
drives also work. Do a Google search.

> I haven't seen any playstation ones advertised. If they do not
> have a hard drive option, is there any way I could network it to a
> computer and use the hard drive from the computer. Mainly all I want is
> to be able to save game data onto a hard drive instead of the memory
cards.

Then you should get a USB Max Drive from Datel. It will allow you to
transfer save files from PS2 memory cards to a USB flash drive, which can
then be stored on your computer's hard drive.

> The next question is, are tehy going to make games so they pick the
> soundtrack for the game from off the hard drive, like xbox. this is a
> very cool feature of xbox as well as then making the game console into
> your own jukebox.

A few PS One games let you do this--after the game loaded, you could swap
out the CD for a music CD--but no PS2 games have a soundtrack feature since
it requires the hard drive...and almost no one bought the hard drive.

> And finally, why is it playstation (and xbox for that matter) don't
> actually advertise their peripherals. In the years that PS2 has been
> here, I have NEVER ONCE seen an ad for the hard drive, and except for
> the PSLive (I think it's called) advertising (pamphlet) that comes with
> a few games I have never seen an ad for the network adapter.

They advertise their peripherals in catalogs, not via television
commercials.

> Even still I don't know if you are meant to use a crossover cable and only
connect
> two PS2's together or if you can use a netwrok hub/switch/router, let
> alone any PC connectivity that may exist.
> Any help/advice appreciated
>
> Matthew

You can use a hub/router to connect two PS2's together (if both have the
network adaptor) and play LAN games, or you can connect a single PS2 to a
hub/router to share your Internet connection with your PC and play online.
The PS2 doesn't talk to a PC via ethernet cable, FTP, or anything like that,
however.
Anonymous
March 21, 2005 11:53:12 PM

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"Matthew Gunn" <matthewgunn_au@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:423e7a3c@quokka.wn.com.au...
>I was looking at getting one of the new PS2 slimline consoles. I wanted to
>know do they have an external hard drive or can you use any USB hard drive?
>I haven't seen any playstation ones advertised. If they do not have a hard
>drive option, is there any way I could network it to a computer and use the
>hard drive from the computer. Mainly all I want is to be able to save game
>data onto a hard drive instead of the memory cards.
> The next question is, are tehy going to make games so they pick the
> soundtrack for the game from off the hard drive, like xbox. this is a
> very cool feature of xbox as well as then making the game console into
> your own jukebox.
> And finally, why is it playstation (and xbox for that matter) don't
> actually advertise their peripherals. In the years that PS2 has been
> here, I have NEVER ONCE seen an ad for the hard drive, and except for the
> PSLive (I think it's called) advertising (pamphlet) that comes with a few
> games I have never seen an ad for the network adapter. Even still I don't
> know if you are meant to use a crossover cable and only connect two PS2's
> together or if you can use a netwrok hub/switch/router, let alone any PC
> connectivity that may exist.
> Any help/advice appreciated
>
> Matthew
>
Look up usb extreme.
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March 22, 2005 2:10:24 AM

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On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:42:53 +0800, Matthew Gunn
<matthewgunn_au@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I was looking at getting one of the new PS2 slimline consoles. I wanted
>to know do they have an external hard drive or can you use any USB hard
>drive? I haven't seen any playstation ones advertised. If they do not
>have a hard drive option, is there any way I could network it to a
>computer and use the hard drive from the computer. Mainly all I want is
>to be able to save game data onto a hard drive instead of the memory cards.
>The next question is, are tehy going to make games so they pick the
>soundtrack for the game from off the hard drive, like xbox. this is a
>very cool feature of xbox as well as then making the game console into
>your own jukebox.
>And finally, why is it playstation (and xbox for that matter) don't
>actually advertise their peripherals. In the years that PS2 has been
>here, I have NEVER ONCE seen an ad for the hard drive, and except for
>the PSLive (I think it's called) advertising (pamphlet) that comes with
>a few games I have never seen an ad for the network adapter. Even still
>I don't know if you are meant to use a crossover cable and only connect
>two PS2's together or if you can use a netwrok hub/switch/router, let
>alone any PC connectivity that may exist.
>Any help/advice appreciated
>
>Matthew

Not really much you can do. Only the official Sony HDD accessory for
the original style PS2 systems will allow you to copy your save games
onto and off of it via the PS2's Browser screen. There is a hack of
the HD Loader coming out soon that uses the USB port, but in all
honesty I can't imagine why anyone would want it. The ports on the
PS2 are not USB 2.0 HiSpeed so running anything off of a USB hard
drive would actually be slower than an original game disc.
Anonymous
March 22, 2005 6:02:00 AM

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Matthew Gunn <matthewgunn_au@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I was looking at getting one of the new PS2 slimline consoles. I wanted
> to know do they have an external hard drive or can you use any USB hard
> drive? I haven't seen any playstation ones advertised. If they do not
> have a hard drive option, is there any way I could network it to a
> computer and use the hard drive from the computer. Mainly all I want is
> to be able to save game data onto a hard drive instead of the memory cards.
> The next question is, are tehy going to make games so they pick the
> soundtrack for the game from off the hard drive, like xbox. this is a
> very cool feature of xbox as well as then making the game console into
> your own jukebox.

The Slimline PS2 does not support a HDD, at all.

The HDD that was released for the older models of the PS2 came with Final
Fantasy XI - and was the *only* way to get the (offical) HDD. This is why
you never saw an ad for the PS2 HDD.

Your PS2 won't recognize your PC either, so you won't be able to network
them together.

You can, however, use the USB port on the PS2 to copy/move saves from the
memory card to a thumb drive, which you can then copy onto your PC's hard
drive. Unfortunatly I don't remember the name of the product (ARS Max?)
but I'm sure someone will chime in with the name. I have seen the product
in stores, so I know it exists.

The PS2 has never had a jukebox feature like XBox.

> And finally, why is it playstation (and xbox for that matter) don't
> actually advertise their peripherals. In the years that PS2 has been
> here, I have NEVER ONCE seen an ad for the hard drive, and except for
> the PSLive (I think it's called) advertising (pamphlet) that comes with
> a few games I have never seen an ad for the network adapter. Even still
> I don't know if you are meant to use a crossover cable and only connect
> two PS2's together or if you can use a netwrok hub/switch/router, let
> alone any PC connectivity that may exist.
> Any help/advice appreciated

Sony never released the HDD as a separate device. It was bundled with
FFXI, and to the best of my knowledge, FFXI is the only game that requires
the HDD that was released outside of Japan. A few games could use the HDD
to store downloaded material - like extra maps for SOCOM - but beyond
that, the thing was a paperweight.

The older models of PS2 required you to buy the broadband adaptor
separately. The Slimline model has this built-in, so you have nothing
extra to buy. The broadband adaptor is just a standard ethernet port, so
if you've set up a network with your computers at home to use the
internet, you'll have no problems setting up the PS2. Or, if you still
use dialup, the PS2 has a modem port. Again, if you've gotten your PC
online, getting your PS2 online is pretty easy.

The optimal way to get your PS2 online is to have a router, which often
supports 4 PCs, or you can connect a switch to it for additional ports.
Simply plug your PS2 into the router as if it's a normal PC and you're
off. You can buy an optional attachment that allows your PS2 to use
wireless, if you'd rather go that route.

You can network your PS2 into your PC and use its internet connection
(called "Internet Connection Sharing" or ICS under WinXP) but the
drawbacks here are you need 2 ethernet ports on your PC, and your PC will
need to be on while you're using your PS2 online. This is one of the
reasons the router solution (above) is preferable.

Moving the broadband modem between your PC and PS2 might not work because
your ISP knows the MAC address of your PC - and your PS2 has a different
MAC address. (the MAC address is a unique string assigned to every ethernet
port in the world.) Some ISPs will allow this...for a fee. Which is why
you shouldn't bother. Buy a router, don't tell your ISP about your PS2
(some will try to charge you an extra "gaming" fee - bad bad bad ISP!) and
enjoy your internet connection your way.
March 22, 2005 6:47:04 AM

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Doug Jacobs wrote:
snip
> The HDD that was released for the older models of the PS2 came with Final
> Fantasy XI - and was the *only* way to get the (offical) HDD.
snip

It could be bought separately in Japan. And there were external Firewire
harddrives released for it in Japan; the first Japanese PS2s could not
use the internal HDD.
Anonymous
March 22, 2005 12:15:09 PM

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Android wrote:
> "Matthew Gunn" <matthewgunn_au@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:423e7a3c@quokka.wn.com.au...
>
>>I was looking at getting one of the new PS2 slimline consoles. I wanted
>>to know do they have an external hard drive or can you use any USB hard
>>drive?
>
>
> You cannot connect a hard drive to the new slimline PS2. You can connect the
> official Sony HDD to the old model PS2, and some models of external hard
> drives also work. Do a Google search.
>
>
>>I haven't seen any playstation ones advertised. If they do not
>>have a hard drive option, is there any way I could network it to a
>>computer and use the hard drive from the computer. Mainly all I want is
>>to be able to save game data onto a hard drive instead of the memory
>
> cards.
>
> Then you should get a USB Max Drive from Datel. It will allow you to
> transfer save files from PS2 memory cards to a USB flash drive, which can
> then be stored on your computer's hard drive.
>
This is a pretty good option. Can you use any flash drive or does it
have to be playstation specific, like the one you pointed me to?
>
>>The next question is, are tehy going to make games so they pick the
>>soundtrack for the game from off the hard drive, like xbox. this is a
>>very cool feature of xbox as well as then making the game console into
>>your own jukebox.
>
>
> A few PS One games let you do this--after the game loaded, you could swap
> out the CD for a music CD--but no PS2 games have a soundtrack feature since
> it requires the hard drive...and almost no one bought the hard drive.

That's no good. I want to be able to pick from a large selection of
music not just one CD.

Matthew
Anonymous
March 22, 2005 12:22:44 PM

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lonesw0rdsman wrote:
>
> Look up usb extreme.
>
>
Found a few things about it but could not find where to get it.
www.usbextreme.com is where they said it would be released but when I
use that address I end up at
http://apps5.oingo.com/apps/domainpark/domainpark.cgi?c...
It says the site is under construction and is coming soon. Has it
already been released anywhere else?

Matthew
Anonymous
March 22, 2005 12:22:45 PM

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"Matthew Gunn" <matthewgunn_au@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:423f72a1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> lonesw0rdsman wrote:
>>
>> Look up usb extreme.
> Found a few things about it but could not find where to get it.
> www.usbextreme.com is where they said it would be released but when I use
> that address I end up at
> http://apps5.oingo.com/apps/domainpark/domainpark.cgi?c...
> It says the site is under construction and is coming soon. Has it already
> been released anywhere else?
>
> Matthew
>
I was looking into it today and came across a message board talking about
this and how it sounds like vaporware. As far as I know it hasnt been
released and doesnt look like it will anytime soon. Thats what I got from
the discussion anyway. I was hoping this was real.

They mentioned the usb ports only being 1.1 so it wouldnt be ideal for a
hdd. Im not to sure though. I wouldve thought the ps2 had 2.0 by now.
March 22, 2005 12:29:42 PM

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You can get it at BB video stores, ours has it for $99

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:47:04 GMT, Ted <nospamforted@nospam.com> wrote:

>
>
>Doug Jacobs wrote:
>snip
>> The HDD that was released for the older models of the PS2 came with Final
>> Fantasy XI - and was the *only* way to get the (offical) HDD.
>snip
>
>It could be bought separately in Japan. And there were external Firewire
>harddrives released for it in Japan; the first Japanese PS2s could not
>use the internal HDD.
Anonymous
March 22, 2005 12:43:41 PM

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Hell I j ust want to be able to save games on a USB pen drive. Champions of
Norrath are eating up almost 6mb alone. This would have be the killer option
from Sony, allow USB pen drives as memory save devices. The PS3 should kick
the "memory cards" and just allow USB pen drives.



"Asterix" <amd@intel.com> wrote in message
news:p tku31hqard3a9g99rqtlpb0tpioroas7d@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:42:53 +0800, Matthew Gunn
> <matthewgunn_au@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I was looking at getting one of the new PS2 slimline consoles. I wanted
>>to know do they have an external hard drive or can you use any USB hard
>>drive? I haven't seen any playstation ones advertised. If they do not
>>have a hard drive option, is there any way I could network it to a
>>computer and use the hard drive from the computer. Mainly all I want is
>>to be able to save game data onto a hard drive instead of the memory
>>cards.
>>The next question is, are tehy going to make games so they pick the
>>soundtrack for the game from off the hard drive, like xbox. this is a
>>very cool feature of xbox as well as then making the game console into
>>your own jukebox.
>>And finally, why is it playstation (and xbox for that matter) don't
>>actually advertise their peripherals. In the years that PS2 has been
>>here, I have NEVER ONCE seen an ad for the hard drive, and except for
>>the PSLive (I think it's called) advertising (pamphlet) that comes with
>>a few games I have never seen an ad for the network adapter. Even still
>>I don't know if you are meant to use a crossover cable and only connect
>>two PS2's together or if you can use a netwrok hub/switch/router, let
>>alone any PC connectivity that may exist.
>>Any help/advice appreciated
>>
>>Matthew
>
> Not really much you can do. Only the official Sony HDD accessory for
> the original style PS2 systems will allow you to copy your save games
> onto and off of it via the PS2's Browser screen. There is a hack of
> the HD Loader coming out soon that uses the USB port, but in all
> honesty I can't imagine why anyone would want it. The ports on the
> PS2 are not USB 2.0 HiSpeed so running anything off of a USB hard
> drive would actually be slower than an original game disc.
>
Anonymous
March 22, 2005 2:27:10 PM

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Doug Jacobs wrote:

> You can, however, use the USB port on the PS2 to copy/move saves from the
> memory card to a thumb drive, which you can then copy onto your PC's hard
> drive. Unfortunatly I don't remember the name of the product (ARS Max?)
> but I'm sure someone will chime in with the name. I have seen the product
> in stores, so I know it exists.

Android says USB Max Drive from Datel. I had a look at it and it looks
like a good option. I already have a USB MP3 player/thumb drive. Could
I use that or does it have to be specifically designed for playstation?
I'll get one if I have to but I always like to save money.

Matthew
Anonymous
March 22, 2005 2:27:11 PM

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"Matthew Gunn" <matthewgunn_au@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:423f8fca$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> Doug Jacobs wrote:
>
> > You can, however, use the USB port on the PS2 to copy/move saves from
the
> > memory card to a thumb drive, which you can then copy onto your PC's
hard
> > drive. Unfortunatly I don't remember the name of the product (ARS Max?)
> > but I'm sure someone will chime in with the name. I have seen the
product
> > in stores, so I know it exists.
>
> Android says USB Max Drive from Datel. I had a look at it and it looks
> like a good option. I already have a USB MP3 player/thumb drive. Could
> I use that or does it have to be specifically designed for playstation?
> I'll get one if I have to but I always like to save money.
>
> Matthew

You can use any USB flash drive, but the problem is that you need software
to configure your PS2 to work with it...and the software only comes with the
Max Drive. It comes with two disks--one you place into the PS2 that launches
the management screen allowing you to transfer data between the memory cards
and the USB flash drive, and the other you place into your PC to allow it to
read the USB flash drive. The latter isn't really necessary, however. Your
PC should be able to see the drive as an added device, and you can simply
drag and drop files. The Max Drive software has some other features,
however, such as connecting to Datel's Web site to download game saves. It
also comes preloaded with game saves, IIRC. I bought mine at Best Buy for
~$29. I use it to send game saves back and forth to my employer.
Anonymous
March 22, 2005 3:28:48 PM

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Android wrote:
>
> You can use any USB flash drive, but the problem is that you need software
> to configure your PS2 to work with it...and the software only comes with the
> Max Drive. It comes with two disks--one you place into the PS2 that launches
> the management screen allowing you to transfer data between the memory cards
> and the USB flash drive, and the other you place into your PC to allow it to
> read the USB flash drive. The latter isn't really necessary, however. Your
> PC should be able to see the drive as an added device, and you can simply
> drag and drop files. The Max Drive software has some other features,
> however, such as connecting to Datel's Web site to download game saves. It
> also comes preloaded with game saves, IIRC. I bought mine at Best Buy for
> ~$29. I use it to send game saves back and forth to my employer.
>
Cool. I'll have to get one. I wonder what the chances are of being
able to use my MP3 player as well. I suppose I would need to have the
drivers on the Max Drive disk. Maybe they will be universal enough. I
might have to ask the makers of MAX drive if it is compatible with any
other USB storage devices.
Anonymous
March 22, 2005 5:02:10 PM

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lonesw0rdsman wrote:
> "Matthew Gunn" <matthewgunn_au@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:423f72a1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>
>>lonesw0rdsman wrote:
>>
>>>Look up usb extreme.
>>
>>Found a few things about it but could not find where to get it.
>>www.usbextreme.com is where they said it would be released but when I use
>>that address I end up at
>>http://apps5.oingo.com/apps/domainpark/domainpark.cgi?c...
>>It says the site is under construction and is coming soon. Has it already
>>been released anywhere else?
>>
>>Matthew
>>
>
> I was looking into it today and came across a message board talking about
> this and how it sounds like vaporware. As far as I know it hasnt been
> released and doesnt look like it will anytime soon. Thats what I got from
> the discussion anyway. I was hoping this was real.
>
> They mentioned the usb ports only being 1.1 so it wouldnt be ideal for a
> hdd. Im not to sure though. I wouldve thought the ps2 had 2.0 by now.
>
>
I would've thought so too.
March 22, 2005 9:21:30 PM

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Sarah wrote:
>
> You can get it at BB video stores, ours has it for $99

A new internal PS2 HDD by itself, or a PS2 external HDD?

A: Because it disrupts the flow of logic.
Q: Why is top posting problematic?
Anonymous
March 22, 2005 10:08:35 PM

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Matthew Gunn <matthewgunn_au@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > They mentioned the usb ports only being 1.1 so it wouldnt be ideal for a
> > hdd. Im not to sure though. I wouldve thought the ps2 had 2.0 by now.
> >
> >
> I would've thought so too.

The slimline only has USB 1.1 ports, like the older models. I'm guessing
this was done deliberately by Sony to discourage people from using
unauthorized HDDs with the Slimline - in other words, no HDLoader.

Since the USB ports were offically intended to support things like a mouse
and keyboard and Eyetoy(?) USB 1.1 is plenty.
Anonymous
March 22, 2005 10:12:02 PM

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Matthew Gunn <matthewgunn_au@hotmail.com> wrote:

> That's no good. I want to be able to pick from a large selection of
> music not just one CD.

May I reccomend patching your computer through your stereo mixer so you
can have access to your mp3 library? ;) 

In all honesty, I never understood the buzz about this feature. Even on
XBox, you have to enter in the names of the tracks yourself - it won't do
it for you. Yes, I know about numerous hacks to get around this, but I'm
talking about just a vanilla, out-of-the-box Xbox here.
Anonymous
March 23, 2005 12:21:54 AM

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In article <1140rg2oo8kdo02@corp.supernews.com>,
Doug Jacobs <djacobs@shell.rawbw.com> wrote:
>Matthew Gunn <matthewgunn_au@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That's no good. I want to be able to pick from a large selection of
>> music not just one CD.
>
>May I reccomend patching your computer through your stereo mixer so you
>can have access to your mp3 library? ;) 
>
>In all honesty, I never understood the buzz about this feature. Even on
>XBox, you have to enter in the names of the tracks yourself - it won't do
>it for you. Yes, I know about numerous hacks to get around this, but I'm
>talking about just a vanilla, out-of-the-box Xbox here.

I agree, for me, I play a lot of RPGs/adventures which often have a "real"
soundtrack so in theory the music is supposed to set the mood and what not.

For sports/fighters, I guess the BGM is just noise so it might make more
sense. Of course, in those cases I just turn on the stereo. ^_^

==========
Steve Liu
"I know I should not eat thee... Mmm, sacrilicious..." - Homer Simpson
Anonymous
March 23, 2005 12:35:37 AM

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In article <cIY%d.302547$0u.252728@fed1read04>,
Kenner Costen <kenner.costen@cox.net> wrote:
>Hell I j ust want to be able to save games on a USB pen drive. Champions of
>Norrath are eating up almost 6mb alone. This would have be the killer option
>from Sony, allow USB pen drives as memory save devices. The PS3 should kick
>the "memory cards" and just allow USB pen drives.

I imagine it would be memory sticks instead like the PSP. Unfortunately,
if full backwards compatiblity is in, those memory card slots will probably
be there and Sony will probably just go the lazy route again.

I can't imagine why they don't just create a reader though.
==========
Steve Liu
"I know I should not eat thee... Mmm, sacrilicious..." - Homer Simpson
Anonymous
March 23, 2005 12:35:38 AM

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> In article <cIY%d.302547$0u.252728@fed1read04>,
> Kenner Costen <kenner.costen@cox.net> wrote:
>>Hell I j ust want to be able to save games on a USB pen drive.
>>Champions of Norrath are eating up almost 6mb alone. This would have
>>be the killer option from Sony, allow USB pen drives as memory save
>>devices. The PS3 should kick the "memory cards" and just allow USB pen
>>drives.
>
> I imagine it would be memory sticks instead like the PSP.
> Unfortunately, if full backwards compatiblity is in, those memory card
> slots will probably be there and Sony will probably just go the lazy
> route again.
>
> I can't imagine why they don't just create a reader though.
> ==========
> Steve Liu
> "I know I should not eat thee... Mmm, sacrilicious..." - Homer Simpson
>
>

I am not a coding expert, but couldn't a simple feature of the PS3 OS
redirect the save request of PS2 games to whatever location it wants,
couldn't it?
Anonymous
March 23, 2005 11:43:49 AM

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TheLightsAreOn wrote:
>>In article <cIY%d.302547$0u.252728@fed1read04>,
>>Kenner Costen <kenner.costen@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Hell I j ust want to be able to save games on a USB pen drive.
>>>Champions of Norrath are eating up almost 6mb alone. This would have
>>>be the killer option from Sony, allow USB pen drives as memory save
>>>devices. The PS3 should kick the "memory cards" and just allow USB pen
>>>drives.
>>
>>I imagine it would be memory sticks instead like the PSP.
>>Unfortunately, if full backwards compatiblity is in, those memory card
>>slots will probably be there and Sony will probably just go the lazy
>>route again.
>>
>>I can't imagine why they don't just create a reader though.
>>==========
>>Steve Liu
>>"I know I should not eat thee... Mmm, sacrilicious..." - Homer Simpson
>>
>>
>
>
> I am not a coding expert, but couldn't a simple feature of the PS3 OS
> redirect the save request of PS2 games to whatever location it wants,
> couldn't it?

If they wanted it to it could be done way too easily.

Matthew
Anonymous
March 23, 2005 11:46:16 AM

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Steve Liu wrote:
> In article <1140rg2oo8kdo02@corp.supernews.com>,
> Doug Jacobs <djacobs@shell.rawbw.com> wrote:
>
>>Matthew Gunn <matthewgunn_au@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>That's no good. I want to be able to pick from a large selection of
>>>music not just one CD.
>>
>>May I reccomend patching your computer through your stereo mixer so you
>>can have access to your mp3 library? ;) 
>>
>>In all honesty, I never understood the buzz about this feature. Even on
>>XBox, you have to enter in the names of the tracks yourself - it won't do
>>it for you. Yes, I know about numerous hacks to get around this, but I'm
>>talking about just a vanilla, out-of-the-box Xbox here.
>
>
> I agree, for me, I play a lot of RPGs/adventures which often have a "real"
> soundtrack so in theory the music is supposed to set the mood and what not.
>
> For sports/fighters, I guess the BGM is just noise so it might make more
> sense. Of course, in those cases I just turn on the stereo. ^_^
>
> ==========
> Steve Liu
> "I know I should not eat thee... Mmm, sacrilicious..." - Homer Simpson
>
I agree about seting the mood in most games. I mainly like it for the
driving games. Like actually having control of the car stereo.
Also with the Xbox you can set up playlists of your favourites and most
games will let you pick from there soundtrack or any of the playlists
you have setup.

Matthew
Anonymous
March 23, 2005 11:47:31 AM

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Ted wrote:
>
> A: Because it disrupts the flow of logic.
> Q: Why is top posting problematic?

Yet I can still understand it.

Matthew
Anonymous
March 23, 2005 8:30:07 PM

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In article <Xns96219BDF8EB5Ffakethisaddresscom@216.196.97.136>,
TheLightsAreOn <fake@thisaddress.com> wrote:
>>
>> I imagine it would be memory sticks instead like the PSP.
>> Unfortunately, if full backwards compatiblity is in, those memory card
>> slots will probably be there and Sony will probably just go the lazy
>> route again.
>>
>
>I am not a coding expert, but couldn't a simple feature of the PS3 OS
>redirect the save request of PS2 games to whatever location it wants,
>couldn't it?

If Sony was thinking ahead, it would be simple. I imagine that they
weren't and the memory card access routines are low level things (like the
days of DOS where each publisher wrote their own drivers). It might be
possible if they don't provide PS1 support, who knows?

==========
Steve Liu
"I know I should not eat thee... Mmm, sacrilicious..." - Homer Simpson
Anonymous
March 24, 2005 3:24:29 AM

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Steve Liu <koalatek@radix.net> wrote:

> For sports/fighters, I guess the BGM is just noise so it might make more
> sense. Of course, in those cases I just turn on the stereo. ^_^

Yeah, I had to wonder why more people didn't do this...

Though I guess the big thing about the XBox is that you can rip tracks to
the HDD, then tell the Xbox to use your track #01, instead of track #01
from the game. So, for instance, your football game could start up with
'Welcome to the Jungle', and play your school's marching song when you
make a touch-down ;) 

Assuming that's how it works (I haven't tried it on my xbox yet) that'd be
kind of amusing for awhile... In fact I'm sure a friend of mine would
spend hours of time just coming up with his own soundtracks for games -
some serious, some silly. For instance, why not have your favorite
fighter game play "Beat It" for the theme song? And I think many of the
levels from Katamari would go great with They Might Be Giants ;) 
Anonymous
March 24, 2005 4:04:05 AM

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Ok I saw a mod'ed PS2 Slim today that had a HD wired into it! Now this was
AWESOME. All the points are on the mother board its just no external access,
almost like they planned to allow a 2.5" drive (laptop) but changed their
mind.


I talked to the guys who make the AR Max, if they could make a "work around"
that would direct to a pen drive/zip drive, they said they had been working
on one. This would be AWESOME.


"Sarah" <SarahT@trip.net> wrote in message
news:ifl0411qg65a6i6qlgnn0qiu4k1g80oqb7@4ax.com...
>
> You can get it at BB video stores, ours has it for $99
>
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:47:04 GMT, Ted <nospamforted@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Doug Jacobs wrote:
>>snip
>>> The HDD that was released for the older models of the PS2 came with
>>> Final
>>> Fantasy XI - and was the *only* way to get the (offical) HDD.
>>snip
>>
>>It could be bought separately in Japan. And there were external Firewire
>>harddrives released for it in Japan; the first Japanese PS2s could not
>>use the internal HDD.
>
March 24, 2005 1:13:41 PM

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Don't need it, hdadvance, USB is out:
http://www.hdadvance.com/usb_extreme_whatis.htm




On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 01:04:05 -0800, "Kenner Costen"
<kenner.costen@cox.net> wrote:

>Ok I saw a mod'ed PS2 Slim today that had a HD wired into it! Now this was
>AWESOME. All the points are on the mother board its just no external access,
>almost like they planned to allow a 2.5" drive (laptop) but changed their
>mind.
>
>
>I talked to the guys who make the AR Max, if they could make a "work around"
>that would direct to a pen drive/zip drive, they said they had been working
>on one. This would be AWESOME.
>
>
>"Sarah" <SarahT@trip.net> wrote in message
>news:ifl0411qg65a6i6qlgnn0qiu4k1g80oqb7@4ax.com...
>>
>> You can get it at BB video stores, ours has it for $99
>>
>> On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 03:47:04 GMT, Ted <nospamforted@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Doug Jacobs wrote:
>>>snip
>>>> The HDD that was released for the older models of the PS2 came with
>>>> Final
>>>> Fantasy XI - and was the *only* way to get the (offical) HDD.
>>>snip
>>>
>>>It could be bought separately in Japan. And there were external Firewire
>>>harddrives released for it in Japan; the first Japanese PS2s could not
>>>use the internal HDD.
>>
>
Anonymous
March 24, 2005 4:41:38 PM

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Kenner Costen wrote:
> Ok I saw a mod'ed PS2 Slim today that had a HD wired into it! Now this was
> AWESOME. All the points are on the mother board its just no external access,
> almost like they planned to allow a 2.5" drive (laptop) but changed their
> mind.
>
>

Another power modder..... I posted a solution for the ps slim to allow
a harddrive. All the points for the 40 pin cable is described. A USB
solution is in the works

Reference:

http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000950031560/

Support/Forums:

http://www.ps2-scene.org/forums/showthread.php?t=32800&...
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