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November 12, 2011 6:04:42 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Over The Next Couple Days/Weeks (Just received a copy of Elder Scrolls V Skyrim and my older Intel CPU socket 775 said "isnt going to happen" when I placed the DVD disk in to install) *tears run down cheeks as I hold bonus premium map*

Budget Range: $500-600 US

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Moderate Gaming, Internet, Netflix, Watching Movies (DVD)

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, Speakers, Storage Drive

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg

Country: US

Parts Preferences: AMD Phenom II CPU, AM3 ATX mobo, ATX Mid Tower Case

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: Current Monitor is Compaq FS7600 (1,280 x 1,024 max resolution)
http://www.amazon.com/HP-FS7600-Compaq-Monitor/dp/B0007...

Additional Comments: This is my first time build and was wanting to use the $500 Gaming PC from September System Builder Marathon. I couldnt find the "seagate barracuda st500dm002 500 gb" listed in build on newegg and wanted to know if it would be possible to use a "older" hard drive out of another computer (I have listed it below) and/or list a similar hard drive as the seagate that could be purchased from newegg. Also if there is anything that needs changed or wouldnt be compatible? All comments, suggestions, help are welcome and greatly appreciated. Thank you for taking the time to view my post

MoBo: ASRock M3A770DE AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics: SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical: SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: NZXT GAMMA Classic Series GAMA-001BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power: Antec EarthWatts Green EA-430D Green 430W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS 12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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November 12, 2011 6:25:06 AM

Good solid build already, what games are you planning on playing
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November 12, 2011 6:29:10 AM

I suggest spending $15 more to get a PSU that'll allow you to CF in the future. You may say you don't plan to now but it'll be better than buying a single card since CF 6870 gives you about 10-20% better performance than a GTX 580, plus the wattage will future proof you.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Currently just $70 after promo code and before rebates a solid buy.

For the motherboard, get this just to have AM3+ as an option and 8x/8x for Crossfire, plus you get USB 3 and SATA 6gb/s (SATA 3)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 12, 2011 6:31:59 AM

A 40gb hdd? Are you serious? An OS would take half the space of that.
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November 12, 2011 6:36:06 AM

Oh incase you didn't know OP, HDD prices have been inflated so much that a 500GB costs about 100 bucks. I'd suggest getting a larger one in the house if you can or this one.
http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Barracuda-3-5-Inch-Intern...

As stated 40GB won't really cut it, you can try to fit it in but even the OS + Skyrim would cover about 25-30GB.
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November 12, 2011 7:07:55 AM

mmm http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/skyrim-performance-benchm...
Specifically for skyrim i5 is king. For everything else too :D 
Let's get building!
i5 2400 (190$) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Gigabyte z68ma-d2h (111$) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Case Gamma Classic (36$) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Xfx 6950 (240$) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair 2x4gb (40$ (for real??)) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The same dvd-rw (19$) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair cx430 (45$) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Some rebates apply but i didn't count them in.
Total: 681$

We got way out of the budget eh? But it is a good computer :( 
OK then! Let's shave off.
i3 2100 (125$ saving 65$) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
sadly the 6950 has to go too :( 
xfx 6870 (175$ saving 65$) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 12, 2011 7:14:28 AM

aznshinobi said:
I suggest spending $15 more to get a PSU that'll allow you to CF in the future. You may say you don't plan to now but it'll be better than buying a single card since CF 6870 gives you about 10-20% better performance than a GTX 580, plus the wattage will future proof you.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Currently just $70 after promo code and before rebates a solid buy.

For the motherboard, get this just to have AM3+ as an option and 8x/8x for Crossfire, plus you get USB 3 and SATA 6gb/s (SATA 3)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I don't know about Xfire 6870s. With the microstuttering and the powerdraw demanding that he now needs more watts, it kind of equalizes the price he would pay for a 6950 that will xfire splendidly later on, with the appropriate change of the psu. I am worried though, that the juice in the amd will not be enough to sustain the 2x6950.
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November 12, 2011 7:16:42 AM

I am going to have to doubt the 6950 and i5 2400 running on that CX430 even if it did you can expect a short life of the CX430.
You're looking at a rough 158w TDP for the 6950
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-6950-6970-review/1...
Then a 95w TDP for the i5 2400, that's already about 250w. The 430 is rated 80% gives it roughly 344w on average. That's a little close for comfort since the 250w is not even including the rest of the system under load yet. But that's just me.

IMO, CPU doesn't matter that much in gaming, those benches show that at 1080P the 2500K is only 9 Frames faster than a roughly stock 965 (easily achieved by upping the multiplier on the 955, don't even need to adjust voltages). At that little tiny difference you're looking at $70+ increase in price. You're better of getting a better GPU than spending that on the CPU.

As for the i3 2100, I think the 955 is sufficient, specially since you can overclock with the 955 giving it the little boosts that clock speed seems to show in Skyrim. IMO OP's build is fine.
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November 12, 2011 7:21:09 AM

Microstuttering is made a huge deal when it is hardly. It's not a big notice, when I microstutter it lasts maybe a second, that's pretty bearable. With current driver updates I've barely noticed any if at all of stuttering during BF3 prolonged sessions.

Also 6870 CF is only requiring a power draw of 300w. Since 1 6870 only need 151w at max load. 750w is plenty.

If anything 6950 1gb shouldn't be running on the CX430w you recommended. I just rechecked TDPs, and the 6950 1GB has a TDP of 200, that would put the 6950 1GB + i5 2400 at a total of 300w which is very close to the CX430's average output. You're basically torturing the CX430 every time system's at load.
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November 12, 2011 7:33:05 AM

Yes, all this is true. I still wouldn't get amd for gaming.
And yeah, probably a 500watt psu. A little more here and a little more there and i guess i concur, either up the budget or go amd. It is still a shame getting old tech. Might as well go completely cheap with H61 or 780amd microboards
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November 12, 2011 8:00:23 AM

aznshinobi said:
I am going to have to doubt the 6950 and i5 2400 running on that CX430 even if it did you can expect a short life of the CX430.
You're looking at a rough 158w TDP for the 6950
http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-6950-6970-review/1...
Then a 95w TDP for the i5 2400, that's already about 250w. The 430 is rated 80% gives it roughly 344w on average. That's a little close for comfort since the 250w is not even including the rest of the system under load yet. But that's just me.


That's not what efficiency means. A 430W can (or should be able to, and I'm sure Corsair's a brand you can trust) output 430W. 80% Effiency means it's drawing 430/.8 = ~540W from the wall doing so!
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November 12, 2011 8:41:17 AM

Indeed that is what efficiency means, the percentage of the power drawn from the wall transfered to the system. Still it sounds odd having a 6950 on a 430watt psu. It will work regardless, but aging factor kicks in after some years and that is what concerns me. Out of the box all will play, after 4 years, i don't know. Corsair should pull through, then again, were it my own system i would put a 500 ocz, or i would never have picked these parts and i would end up with an enermax monster.
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November 12, 2011 9:20:59 AM

I definitely see your point about the 40GB HDD, I had not given thought to the amount of space the OS would take up. I had a Toshiba Laptop that went out on me over the summer and held on to it, I just opened it up and this is what I came up with Toshiba HDD2H24 250 GB 5400 RPM 2.5-Inch 8 MB Cache SATA Internal Hard Drive
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-HDD2H24-2-5-Inch-Cache-In...
I would be going with a slower drive but this work with an adapter plate to mount into the Internal 3.5 Drive Bay of the case till I could budget in for a new one? Also would I be able to reinstall Windows 7 OEM and use the same key code onto a new HDD at a later date if I went the above route?
I also like the idea of going with a better PSU and having a system or at least some components that would be future proof or could be used in a build down the road. I dont see myself going with the crossfire option or upgrading to a AMD FX series anytime in the near future due to budget constraints so not sure that I would benefit from the 8x8x crossfire support and AM3+ on the ASRock mobo
As far as PC games that I'm wanting to play!!! I'm so ready to F5 on this old computer and jump into some great looking games like Crysis 2, Dead Space 2, Deus Ex, B3, CoD MW3, might even give Rift or Blizzards Cataclysm another go
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November 12, 2011 9:32:47 AM

I didn't see your monitor. The resolution is too small.

Get a 6670 or 6770. it's pretty much crazy getting a 6870. Use the money saved to get a 500gb hard drive.

Get rid of the cooler if you must. There's a $90 HDD at amazon. Seagate barracuda 500gb.

Found a Seagate $50 at Office Depot. not sure where it is as i am not in the states.
http://www.officedepot.com/a/products/830749/Seagate-Ba...;jsessionid=00000KtupQ7KQ9lZTKMuKtOf3xq:1659q37ia
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November 12, 2011 10:19:32 AM

I know the AMD Phenom II has been out for a few and its not the latest nor best out on the market. As I type this i'm running on a P4 3.2 Prescott with 800 FSB placed into a Foxconn mobo, I get CPU hiccups just using the forums and browsing the internet. I have given a good deal of thought to going with an intel and a 1155 mobo but because of build restrictions due to cost a i5 2500K was out of the picture and when I compare the AMD to intel's budget CPU (i3) I decided to go with the Phenom II X4 955BE. Not only because the cost seems higher for the quality intel parts but also because I would have four cores over the i3 duel that was locked and even though they seem to benchmark the same in games I have to factor in that I will have other programs running in the background
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November 12, 2011 10:50:19 AM

swedelander said:
I know the AMD Phenom II has been out for a few and its not the latest nor best out on the market. As I type this i'm running on a P4 3.2 Prescott with 800 FSB placed into a Foxconn mobo, I get CPU hiccups just using the forums and browsing the internet. I have given a good deal of thought to going with an intel and a 1155 mobo but because of build restrictions due to cost a i5 2500K was out of the picture and when I compare the AMD to intel's budget CPU (i3) I decided to go with the Phenom II X4 955BE. Not only because the cost seems higher for the quality intel parts but also because I would have four cores over the i3 duel that was locked and even though they seem to benchmark the same in games I have to factor in that I will have other programs running in the background


Yes of course, good thinking. Those where my thoughts when i proposed the i5 2400. Not too expensive but not as cheap as the AMD, but core to core it will wipe the floor with the phenom. I got another suggestion to you, wait for cyber monday, it is not that far away. Have both systems on trigger, come cyber monday see how much they cost, or consult for other parts that will be on sale, you pull the trigger on one of them.
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November 12, 2011 10:56:10 AM

-That is a very strange HDD.

-40gb and it's sata and not ide is pretty rare.

-If looks like some sort of oem replacement drive. The specs are not typical of 40gb era hdd's that packed 5 platters to get only 40gb.

150 MB/sec transfer rate
4.17 ms average latency
10.0 ms seek time
Lightweight and slim design

The specs actually are respectable.

-Use the 40gb as the boot drive "C". Install your program folder and steam install to drive "D". (you could make it drive x or something if you want)
Try and remember to install games/programs/media folders to this larger drive so your 40gb boot drive does not fill up.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$109.99 Western Digital Elements 1.5TB USB 2.0 External Hard Drive
"Cons: Slow USB 2.0 interface
Ran very hot, but this is easily explained by the fact my drive contained a Caviar Black drive."

-find a unpopular external drive model like this, with a useless usb 2.0 interface,
inside is usually just a 3.5" desktop sata drive.

-The 2.5" ones are usually laptop drives inside.

-Most use the cheaper/slower "green" 5200rpm models.

-There is no guarantee they use a regular hdd in these externals, you will have to look at some comments for that drive model.


-Later on buy a new sataIII ssd drive, use the software for the drive to copy your os install 40gb drive to the new ssd drive. This way the second drive can stay the same.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$129.99 Seagate Expansion 2TB USB 2.0 External Hard Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$199.99 Seagate Barracuda Green ST2000DL003 2TB 5900 RPM
-there is a good chance the external 2tb has this drive inside it.
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November 12, 2011 1:35:49 PM

Are you guys serious? Just look at his monitor res! A Phenom II x 4 would be plenty for him.
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November 12, 2011 2:00:16 PM

For me all this amd planning with old tech is a lost cause. You can probably scrap one up and hardware recycle and make this for 200$. It will take time though...
You can find 50$ phenom 2 on the ads forums and so on. A decent monitor for like 90$.
All this debate for old tech being sold 3 years after for prices compared to new tech. Might as well get a used phenom ii x4 840 and a cheapo a5m78l le eh?
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November 12, 2011 3:11:02 PM

Well just to be clear guys OP DOESNT NEED A NEW HDD! Swedelander, you can just can an adapter for your old laptop HDD to save some money on the spot. Also still i suggest going for the 955 mainly because at lower res the skyrim benchmarks show that the 955 and the 2500k show minimal differences in frames so just stick with the 955 and save money. Id suggest sticking with the 6870 to future proof.
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November 12, 2011 3:52:53 PM

Thats great news to hear I can use the HDD out of the old laptop and save some money least till the prices drop back down some. Was wanting to stick with the 6870 as well and pick up a new monitor at some point. I know this build centers around some older tech but it's just to get my "foot in the door" as I gain more confidence, better understanding and the ability to bring more parts to the table for future builds (i.e case, fans, PSU, monitor ect.)
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November 12, 2011 4:24:29 PM

Here is something I would consider for $600
operating system of course ($99.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116986
DVD/CD drive the cheaper the better ($17.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827135204
I have personally built a computer with this case had no problems with it but you can substitute another. ($64.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811147145
Yet another product I have used and would use for a motherboard. ($79.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813138316
thermal paste ($12.98)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 35-100-007
Depending what case you get I would get different CPU coolers if you were to get a large case I would use a 120mm cooler ($29.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233082
but the case I chose I would go with a 92mm cooler due to the side fan the case has ($24.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835233081
keyboard ($15.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6823109077
mouse ($7.99) it is cheap but I own one and I like it
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6826664015
Phenom ll X4 processor at 3.2 that overclocks great if you ever want to ($124.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103808
Power supply I have in my computer good power usage at low loads ($54.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817194038
Don't know why hard drives went up in price so much I got a 750gb WD black 2 months ago for $55 but this should be good ($51.99) I believe it is the same one you picked out too.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136979
memory at 4gb this is fine and can be upgraded in the future ($26.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231425
Lastly graphics a 6750 for $104.99 but with rebate come to ($74.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150572
Total price is $603.87
If you don't mind spending more you can get a better graphics card.
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November 12, 2011 4:36:58 PM

Andrewcarr thank you for your reply and I'm curious to see the components you listed for the build but the links for newegg posted do not seem to work.
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November 12, 2011 8:34:10 PM

^+1

Can you also list the part names instead of explaining the choice for htem?
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November 12, 2011 9:03:59 PM

the initial build is fine, except for the PSU. If you want to overclock anything more power is a must. just use the stock AMD cooler on the cpu for now, put the money from the CPU cooler toward a better psu and get the cooler later on. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... get a newer chipset mmotherboard like this. you wont need crossfire especially with that monitor. When you need a better gfx card later just buy a whole new one. I would recommend an intel core i3 setup, at least then you can upgrade the cpu to something really good later, AMD has nothing better than a phenom II for gaming, and likely never will for the am3+ socket.
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November 12, 2011 9:07:56 PM

I know this isn't a amd build but considering the price and components i suggest you look at this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?I...
or even other diy combos
+ graphics
and later on, an ssd when you run into some extra cash


look at next post, great build
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November 12, 2011 9:16:37 PM

whats this 100$ hdd i keep hearing, i see 500gb at 45-65 all over newegg
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November 12, 2011 9:47:42 PM

Paz, still need an OS.
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November 12, 2011 10:00:11 PM

Paz, he needs OS too.

Dontcrostthe streams why don't you look at Newegg and tell us the prices you see we are talking internal not external.

As for the Combo, terrible combo. The build gives you a crappy MB a worse GPU although overall the combo isn't bad, you're better off buying parts separately. Good find nonetheless.
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November 13, 2011 12:30:18 AM

Great advice so far!! I have been able to compare some system components and even check out some reviews for items I had previously overlooked. I'm set at this point on the build and think the only parts I would consider changing would be the PSU and/or mobo. Then adding a larger HHD (when prices lower) and better monitor over time
The alternative recommended mobo listed above (ASRock 880GM-LE AM3 AMD 880G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard) Had a good amount of DOA's on the reviews, They either loved it or was DOA (that part scares me) Doesnt seem like a bad mobo, but it only has 2 x 240 memory slots and it is rather small in size. What I really liked most about it was the fact that it had onboard video chipset. My thoughts on this was I could order most the parts I needed this week so I could get up and running then deposit a paycheck or two back into the bank to cover the initial price of the build before adding the 6870 GPU this would also allow me to purchase a better PSU
When it comes to selecting the PSU, I would feel more comfortable if I was pointed in the right direction as to what would be compatibile and best? The OCZ ZS Series 750W that aznshinobi mentioned looks really nice and I'm honestly tempted to go ahead and buy it tonight as the sale ends soon http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 13, 2011 12:41:03 AM

Why get a 750w if you don't plan to SLI? Just get a 500w and you'll be fine. Oh that sale. Go for it it's pretty good.
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November 13, 2011 1:08:06 AM

^ Why not, it's only $70 which is pretty close to any 500w PSU seeing as the OCZ is only $70 not yet including rebates it'll future proof him and give him the option if he ever wanted to. I'd just suggest getting this MB instead Swed.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 13, 2011 1:34:09 AM

Yeah. I forgot about the sale. I would grab it too.
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November 13, 2011 2:31:45 AM

Sorry about my links not working this is what I would buy. The hard drive is only temporary and I would upgrade it once prices become reasonable.
operating system of course ($99.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
DVD/CD drive the cheaper the better ($17.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I have personally built a computer with this case had no problems with it but you can substitute another. ($64.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Yet another product I have used and would use for a motherboard. ($79.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
thermal paste ($12.98)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Depending what case you get I would get different CPU coolers if you were to get a large case I would use a 120mm cooler ($29.99) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
but the case I chose I would go with a 92mm cooler due to the side fan the case has ($24.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
keyboard ($15.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
mouse ($7.99) it is cheap but I own one and I like it
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Phenom ll X4 processor at 3.2 that overclocks great if you ever want to ($124.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Power supply I have in my computer good power usage at low loads ($54.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I wouldn't spend too much on a hard drive now because of prices. 250GB should hold most of the information you need for the time until prices come back down ($51.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
memory at 4gb this is fine and can be upgraded in the future ($26.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Lastly graphics a 6750 for $104.99 but with rebate come to ($74.99)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Total price is $603.87
some things I would consider changing if you would go over this price is the motherboard so it can be CF/SLI and the graphics to get a better one. If you don't mind spending another $100 you can get better parts and then get that money back in rebates. The parts I chose are parts I have used so that I know they work and wouldn't mind getting them again.
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November 13, 2011 2:45:11 AM

Actually one change in my list would be getting that 750w power supply.
With the rebate and the sale that power supply goes from $90 to $45. Although if you don't do any future upgrades the efficiency of that power supply would remain worse than that of a 500w power supply.
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November 13, 2011 2:47:37 AM

Just placed the order for the OCZ ZS Series 750W PSU, NZXT GAMMA ATX Mid Tower Case, and SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner. Three components down now for the costly ones *grins* remind me to hide the check book from the wife for the next couple weeks before I order them
Also I took a look at the ASRock 870 Extreme3 that aznshinobi suggested
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
And it's not bad but was wanting something with a onboard chip set, what about this Foxconn A7DA-S 3.0 AM3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I know the onboard graphics are not needed if I add the 6870 GPU but if I went this route couldnt hold off on buying the GPU right away?! This would help me out for the thanksgiving holidays
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November 13, 2011 3:48:47 AM

Now that I think about it the new AMD processors will not be compatible with the AM3 socket so you will want to chose an AM3+ board. The one listed above looks great for the price. If you want to keep this a budget build you should consider the parts I previously listed but if you want to make a better computer for future upgrades you will have to spend about $50-100 extra. Another thing you may want to consider it upgrading the memory from 4GB to 8GB memory is so cheap right now the price difference is only $15.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 15, 2011 12:19:13 AM

Yes. Just get the 965 since it's cheaper right now.
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November 15, 2011 12:43:16 AM

Since I have to leave for work in a few and the sale for 965BE ends tonight, I did a little digging around here on the forums and reading reviews, and went ahead with ordering
I still need a mobo for this build all other parts have been ordered (besides memory) this could be a go by this weekend but I honestly do not have the necessary experience and confidence to pick one out without some help!!!
There has been some good recommendations and the one I honestly gave the greatest thought to going ahead and ordering is not in stock
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I would prefer ATX in size, Onboard Video Chipset and DVI Video Port is a must!!!(least I think thats the plug in for the older monitor I listed as using)
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November 15, 2011 12:53:11 AM

The 880G that I suggested and you just posted is probably your best bet.
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November 20, 2011 6:50:24 PM

Have been waiting for newegg to stock the 880G as recommended but it is starting to look like thats not going to happen, it been a little over a month since someone has posted feedback on this board and i'm afraid i will continue to check newegg every morning after work just to see it "deactivated" a month down the road or something.
The ASRock 890GX PRO3 seems to stock more often as the buyers have listed feedback around the first part of november but is currently out of stock as well
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I can only find these boards available for shipping on two other sites (ebay and amazon) and have concern from ordering from either site

Here is another board I have given some thought to ordering and could use some input on it MSI 880G-E45 AM3 AMD 880G
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

*I know it doesnt offer support for the AM3+ CPU's and has only one PCIe lane*
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November 20, 2011 7:45:32 PM

Amazon would probably be a better bet, the MSI is a bit expensive and odesn't have am3 support as you stated.
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November 27, 2011 6:32:35 PM

Upped the ante on the build!!! Ordered a mobo with a newer chipset for this build, liked the idea of having 2-16x pcie lanes. I have not had much time since my last post to work on it and the ATX mid tower case I had ordered was RMA'd due to damage from shipping. Also some more "key" components along with Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound, and some Cable Ties for wire management.
ASRock 990FX Extreme3 AM3+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
I should have everything I need now to get up and running, then over the next month will add a full HD monitor and SSD for the OS.
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