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November 13, 2011 12:58:56 AM

For my computer science class i have to build a PC on a $1000 budget, then compare it to 2 pre builds and justify my reasons for building and why i used each component. I am allowed to use items i currently own and put them down as free (i own a mouse keyboard, HD monitor speekers headphones ect. dont need that stuff.)

My uses (if i was actually building) would be gaming, programming, and the usual internet surfing typing papers ect.

What i am asking for is any suggestions, help deciding a, tower, fans and help with making sure everything is actually compatable. I also want to make sure that i havent missed anything

The current components i have picked out are as follows
all items on Newegg

I am using microsoft which is $100

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAks 320gb 7200 RPM hardrive
$102.99
Item #: N82E16822136074
MSI N460GTX Cyclone 1gd5/oc geforce gtx 460 (fermi) 1gb 256-bit gddr5 pci express 2.0x15 $179.99
Item #: N82E16814127510
Crucial Ballistix 8DB (2x4GB) 240-pin DDR3 1600 (pc3 12800) desktop memory
$54.99
Item #: N82E16820148463
Antec BP550 Plus 550W
74.99
Item #: N82E16817371016
{
MSI 890FXA-GD70 AM3+ AMD 890FX
Item # N82E16813130274
AMD Phenom II x6 1100T BLack Edition Thuban 3.3ghz, 3.7ghz turbo socket AM3
Item #: N82E16819103913
} packaged together for 349.98

So far for a total of $862.93

Any help would be appreciated. If you would pick a different component please let me know why.

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a b B Homebuilt system
November 13, 2011 1:25:49 AM

I assume the goal is to get the most bang for your buck.

I would start by replacing the AMD processor with a Intel Sandy Bridge Core I-5 2500k. It is a significantly stronger processor despite having 2 less cores.

8GB of RAM is good but I think I would go with GSKILL as it is quality stuff and is most likely cheaper than Crucial

I think you could get more graphical horse power with a HD6870 for less money than the MSI N460GTX. Especially after rebate.

Far as a motherboard perhaps something like this (as it won tweak town's best value award):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The biggest savings you will get will be on combo packages and free shipping offers. That likely will help your chances of getting a good grade / winning the most.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 13, 2011 2:09:52 AM

This is the build I would recommend to you, I'll explain it later:

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K $215
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics: MSI N560GTX-Ti Twin Frozr II GeForce GTX 560 $230 ($210 w/ rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MoBo: ASRock Z68 PRO3 $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Antec EarthWatts EA-650 $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Antec Three Hundred $57
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB $150
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB $41
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Heatsink+Fan: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus $26
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD-ROM: SAMSUNG Model SH-222AL/BSBE $18
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS: Win7 Home Premium $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $1007

Explanation: The i5 is one of the best gaming CPUs to date, it is only surpassed by the i7 2600k, but only because of the 2600k's Hyperthreading abilities, which games never utilize. The 560TI is one of the better gfx cards out on the market, it is worth the money to buy, with it you can easily get high frame rates with a 1920x1080 monitor on High settings. MoBo is rwayne's, which is a great deal. The PSU is 650W, which is easily capable of holding 2 GTX560's incase you want to SLI in the future. The Antec 300 is a great case, although not too sexy...but still, GREAT CASE. Seagate is a very reliable company, and who doesn't like 1TB of storage space? I know I do. 8 GB of G.SKILL RAM, I have those, and it works amazingly. The Hyper212+ will allow you to Overclock the i5 to probably 4GHz and run stable. The rest at pretty self explanatory
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 13, 2011 2:47:15 AM

I don't think I could argue with r0aringdrag0n's mock build. That is a great set up. Should be easy to trim $7 'IF' needed to meet the $1,000 requirement if there is a hard cap on that.

Good job r0aringdrag0n
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November 13, 2011 3:07:32 AM

The only thing I would change if you don't mind another rebate would be buying this memory. It offers a faster speed and after the rebate it is significantly cheaper.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Another thing you could do to save money is to temporary get a hard drive that holds less and upgrade it in the future since the prices of hard drives have increased by so much recently.
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November 13, 2011 2:15:47 PM

I can easily trim $7 dollars just with cutting down the HD size. I dont ever use close to a terabyte, 250-300GB at the most. I thank you very much for helping with the build, it seems must better. I am gonna go with the Kingston memory that andrew recommended for the fact that it clocks at 1600Mhz and cut down the hard drive size as 1TB is unnecessarily large for me, currently.
I can defiantly agree with what you said about the core i5. The whole line up of processors has been amazing with performance and that chip in peticular seems nice. Coming close to some low end 6 core i7's. The GTX graphics card makes up for everything that the chip lacks and and excells.
Thank you guys very much. If you have any other info to add feel free to mention it. You're help so far has been fenominal.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 13, 2011 3:08:49 PM

I would really like to see you win this thing. Or get the best grade in the class.

Recommendations:

When explaining your logic for going with the Core i-5k show benchmarks between it and the Phenom II X4 and X6 processors.

Reason: If your competition picks an AMD processor then this immediately gives you an advantage.

Take a look at this comparison I drafted off the following website:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/the-sandy-bridge-rev...




Also reference this video that shows the Core I-5 beating out the AMD FX 8150 DESPITE having half the cores and have the # of transistors.

http://www.youtube.com/user/LinusTechTips?blend=2&ob=4#...

Your competition may think the more cores you have the faster but that is not the case.





Also you are going to want to highlight the STRONG advantage that the GTX560ti has over AMD in Direct X11 tessellation in games and that it beats out the more expensive HD6950 and HD6970 in some benchmarks.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-...

This video demostrates that:
http://www.youtube.com/user/NCIXcom#p/search/0/vcGe-Vmg...

You can also say that you did not go with a Western Digital Hard drive as their factories were hardest hit in the flood with as much as 75% of factories being shutdown. This would likely be to your benefit if the drive had to be replaced under warranty.

Source: http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/24706-hdd-shortage-to...

Far as trimming $7 I would look at either the case or finding a videocard on sale. Also go for combo deals as they will typically save you on product and shipping


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a b B Homebuilt system
November 13, 2011 3:15:52 PM

Correct! Higher number of Cores DOES NOT equal higher performance in games. Games rarely use more than 2 cores, and if you have an 8 core system, 6 cores are doing nothing. It's all about how fast one core itself is. That's why the 8 threaded i7 2600k isn't all that better than the i5, because the 6 extra threads are not used. Generally speaking any "gaming computer" under $800, I'll put the Phenom II x4, but anything higher, then i5 has to be in there. There really isn't a spot for the new AMD FX-8150... :??: 
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November 17, 2011 1:52:14 AM

I wanted to thank you all for your help, I got a 95% on my paper and presentation.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 17, 2011 8:58:19 AM

Awesome! Glad we helped
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