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November 15, 2011 6:15:50 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: First week of december.

Budget Range: 500 or less as cheap as possible

System Usage from Most to Least Important: (for girlfriend, webbrowsing, word processing, movies, streaming, music, no real gaming. just want it to be very fast in opening up programs and webpages.. etc)

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS, ram, possibly a case (but if cheap would ike a new one),

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com just to see the specs and items, i can shop around after i get specifuc build parts.

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: by brand or type I was looking and i saw that the AMD athlon x4 640 is a good bang for the buck dont know about the mother board, i also just got some ram Kingston Hyper X X1 Black Series 8GB DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) 240-Pin SDRAM Dual Channel Kit XMP LE with Free World of Tanks Premium Upgrade KHX1600C9D3X1K2/8GX hope i can use this with it.

Overclocking: dont htink i will be overclocking for her, so wont need a after market cpu cooler?

SLI or Crossfire: no

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: would like it to be a quiet pc. as queit as possible preferably.

Thanks in advance!!

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a b B Homebuilt system
November 15, 2011 8:19:29 PM

CPU: Intel Core i3-2100 $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics: Onboard $0

MoBo: ASRock H61M-VS $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: COOLER MASTER Elite 460 $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Rosewill Blackbone $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: HITACHI HDS721050CLA362 (0F10381) 500GB $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G.SKILL 4GB Model F3-10600CL9D-4GBNT $23
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Heatsink+Fan: STOCK $0

DVD-ROM: SAMSUNG Black 12X Blu-ray $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $443

The i3 is one of the best budget CPUs, which has hyperthreading technology, which allows it to run 4 threads (like a 4 core CPU). Since this isn't a gaming computer, you don't need any video card, the integrated graphics is more than enough for simple games such as farmville and the such.
November 15, 2011 8:52:12 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
CPU: Intel Core i3-2100 $125
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics: Onboard $0

MoBo: ASRock H61M-VS $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: COOLER MASTER Elite 460 $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Rosewill Blackbone $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: HITACHI HDS721050CLA362 (0F10381) 500GB $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G.SKILL 4GB Model F3-10600CL9D-4GBNT $23
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Heatsink+Fan: STOCK $0

DVD-ROM: SAMSUNG Black 12X Blu-ray $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: $443

The i3 is one of the best budget CPUs, which has hyperthreading technology, which allows it to run 4 threads (like a 4 core CPU). Since this isn't a gaming computer, you don't need any video card, the integrated graphics is more than enough for simple games such as farmville and the such.


Now the ram i got already woudl it work with that motherboard ok (Kingston Hyper X X1 Black Series 8GB DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) 240-Pin SDRAM Dual Channel )? Also i think i may get a SSD just so it boots ultra fast. I realize i havecd/dvd drive, and the ram if it work ok with that motherboard.

Also you dont like the AMD athlon x4 645? i3 is still better bang for buck?
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 16, 2011 10:37:06 AM

k1ngkev1n1 said:
Now the ram i got already woudl it work with that motherboard ok (Kingston Hyper X X1 Black Series 8GB DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) 240-Pin SDRAM Dual Channel )? Also i think i may get a SSD just so it boots ultra fast. I realize i havecd/dvd drive, and the ram if it work ok with that motherboard.

Also you dont like the AMD athlon x4 645? i3 is still better bang for buck?


http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/289?vs=188
As you can see, the i3, while having 2 less physical cores then the Athlon, performs significantly better. The i3 can also hyperthread to have 4 threads (meaning it acts like a 4 core CPU). Since you have a 1600Mhz RAM, I would not recommend the motherboard I said earlier, because it only supports 1333Mhz, although most higher RAM can be used but running at lower speeds. As for the Disk Reader, I put a blu-ray drive, which allows it to play blu-ray videos. Only buy that if you or your girlfriend watches blu-ray videos.
a b B Homebuilt system
November 16, 2011 11:23:53 AM

k1ngkev1n1 said:
Now the ram i got already woudl it work with that motherboard ok (Kingston Hyper X X1 Black Series 8GB DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) 240-Pin SDRAM Dual Channel )? Also i think i may get a SSD just so it boots ultra fast. I realize i havecd/dvd drive, and the ram if it work ok with that motherboard.

Also you dont like the AMD athlon x4 645? i3 is still better bang for buck?
You'll not be able to fit in a SSD on a 500 dollar budget. Basically, it'll save you ~30 seconds of boot time. Is it worth the money? You be the judge.

The above build looks pretty alright to me, but if you want an AMD build - as you say you do - here it is:

CPU: $140 AMD Phenom II X4 970 - Much faster than the 645 for just a few bucks extra.

Mobo: $45 GIGABYTE GA-M68MT-S2 AM3+ - Used the Rev 1.0 AM3 version of this one in my cousins' build earlier in the year with the Athlon IIX4 640. This is the Rev 3.1 AM3+ version - Hence more upgrade friendly.

RAM: You already have some :) 

HDD: $100 HITACHI 500GB 7200 RPM (K1ng's link). The prices have gone through the roof in the last few weeks. You could have gotten a 1TB one for $60 a few weeks back.

ODD: $20 SAMSUNG 22X DVD Burner SATA with LightScribe Support - OEM

PSU: $35 CORSAIR Builder Series CX430 V2

Case: $50 COOLER MASTER Elite 430 - This case was $40 till yesterday. Seems like demand has pushed the price up. Get the Blackbone in K1ng's link to save 10 bucks, or this one if you want a sexier case with the plexiglass side window.

Total: $390+ shipping after rebates.

Pretty much as strong as the Intel build. Quad-Core for cheaper. Also, better upgrade options with the board to newer AMD chips in the coming years.

P.S: You can mix and match components from the 2 builds. Just make sure to check for compatibility :) 
November 16, 2011 11:34:03 AM

110$ left for gpu lol get the 8xxx or 9xxx GS i have one it runs like charm on full load only 60C with 1 fan on the case and heat sink under it mobo heat sink XD if u want plus the build my 8400 GS run 720p stuff but no 1080P :(  i think the 9xxx is FHD IDK :ouch: 


but i can say u seem that u dont need GPU only if ur watching HD vid get one will be good price range from 110$ and below i think like 30-40$ on amazone !

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a b B Homebuilt system
November 16, 2011 6:04:48 PM
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http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/186?vs=289

Similar performance for the 970 (a little less) for $15 more. Remember the i3 can hyperthread, meaning it can run 4 processes at once. Also If you take out the RAM and Blu-ray drive from my build, it'll cost around the same price. HOWEVER if you do wish to go with an AMD build, you can go with the new AMD FX-4100, 4 core FX CPU, which is $5 less than the i3 AND if you order before 11/21/11 you can get it for $95, which IMO is a FANTASTIC DEAL.

New AMD (using similar parts):


CPU: AMD FX-4100 $120 ($95 before 11/21/11)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Graphics:

MoBo: GIGABYTE GA-M68MT-S2 AM3+ $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: COOLER MASTER Elite 460 $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Rosewill Blackbone $40
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: HITACHI HDS721050CLA362 $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: OWN $0

Heatsink+Fan:

DVD-ROM: OWN $0

Total: $340

As for your questions:
1. I would say both are about same for multi-tasking, maybe the FX is better because it is using the 32nm process and has 4 physical cores, but if it is, it isn't big...it'll be barely noticeable.
2. Hyperthreading will be automatically enabled when you turn the computer on, I believe you can turn it off in the BIOS.
November 16, 2011 6:15:51 PM

r0aringdrag0n said:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/186?vs=289

Similar performance for the 970 (a little less) for $15 more. Remember the i3 can hyperthread, meaning it can run 4 processes at once. Also If you take out the RAM and Blu-ray drive from my build, it'll cost around the same price. HOWEVER if you do wish to go with an AMD build, you can go with the new AMD FX-4100, 4 core FX CPU, which is $5 less than the i3 AND if you order before 11/21/11 you can get it for $95, which IMO is a FANTASTIC DEAL.


Sorry last questions appreciate your help. Which cpu the i3 or the AMD FX-4100 for multitasking. like opening tons of firefox windows and streaming videpos while browsing at the same time. whihc would you prefer? and to open up the i3 and hyperthread it like a 4 core processor is it easy?
a b B Homebuilt system
November 16, 2011 6:53:18 PM

k1ngkev1n1 said:
Sorry last questions appreciate your help. Which cpu the i3 or the AMD FX-4100 for multitasking. like opening tons of firefox windows and streaming videpos while browsing at the same time. whihc would you prefer? and to open up the i3 and hyperthread it like a 4 core processor is it easy?

As for your questions:
1. I would say both are about same for multi-tasking, maybe the FX is better because it is using the 32nm process and has 4 physical cores, but if it is, it isn't big...it'll be barely noticeable.
2. Hyperthreading will be automatically enabled when you turn the computer on, I believe you can turn it off in the BIOS.
November 16, 2011 7:25:15 PM

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