Deployment $ Gaming Rig

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Coolermaster HAF X case (got great ratings for airflow and it's large but other suggestions are welcome)

Coolermaster silent pro gold (80+ gold cert) 1000w Psupply (The bench marks for efficiency were great in the psupply articles section but let me know if you think this is too big for my set-up or if it will run efficiently)

Asus P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 mobo (Also considering the maximus series by asus and the P8Z68 Deluxe though the only thing I see extra on the deluxe is a better chipset cooler)
[I'm also down to hear debate between P67 and Z68 mobos and all that]

Intel i7-2600K CPU sandy-bridge 3.4GHz (2700K doesn't seem to be that big of a performance boost but let me know your thoughts)

G. Skill Ripjaws X Series DDR3 1866 RAM 9-10-9-28 @ 1.5V 4x4GB
(I'm wondering about the stability of 8GB sticks right now would it be faster to run 2x8GB sticks or stick with 4x4GB for stability? Also up for suggestions about timings and everything else though I will almost definitely stick with G.Skill for the brand)

WD Caviar Black 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6.0gb/s (do these do fine nowadays I haven't built a computer in a few years but it used to be better to partition larger drives for faster access times but I'm guessing thats a thing of the past, let me know.)

EVGA GTX 580 classified 3072MB vid card (seems to be the best bang for the buck for a single card but let me know what you think I was looking at the liquid cooled version but think I am sticking with air cooling for this rig, see below)

Creative sound blaster x-fi titanium fatal1ty championship series sound card

Couple Asus DVD multi drives.

Also considering more cooling solutions and LCS though I've never played with LCS and it seems like it might be a headache I don't necessarily want to undertake right now. If I can get good airflow (CPU coolers are open for suggestions).

Let me know if you want links. I am building a reasonable dream machine, basically everything I want minus having like 4 vid cards because I don't see the need I may end up with 2 eventually but for now 1 will easily do the trick. I am sitting around $2200 right now for this build but if the bang for the buck is worth it money is essentially not the most important part of this build, I'm building what I want after a nice mandatory vacation to Afghanland. [Also black friday / cyber monday deals thoughts? I won't be home til december from deployment anyways]Thanks guys! :) :lol:
 
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Fill your SSD with your most used apps and games put your OS in there first then fill it up with whatever else it is the use the most out of.
May I suggest the Cooler Master Trooper. It looks awesome! Check out the video on the newegg link below:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119245&Tpk=cooler%20master%20trooper

I don't think a 1000W power supply would be over kill if you plan to SLI two GTX580s at some point. Especially the Classified editions. However Cooler Master is not really an elite power supply manufacturer. They are with cases and fans but not PSUs yet even though they have made improvement over the past few years. I recommend Corsair, Antec, & Seasonic as they tend to be some of the better manufactures. However if JonnyGuru gives a good rating on that Cooler Master Version then I would say go for it.

Have you considered about getting a Solid State Disks? They are very popular right now due to the recent price increases in traditional spindle hard drives. Could give you a good speed boost with the load times of the operating system and games.

Far as the sound card...Not sure if I would invest in that. Intergrated sound is so good these days. Especially with Intel boards.

Have fun with your new build!
 

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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-psu-efficiency,2796-29.html is almost a year old when they tested that model of coolermaster psupply and it was a lower wattage version (wonder how similar the internals are on the 2 seperate models) they also tested an 850w corsair that scored arguably just as well (maybe a 1-2% behind in the efficiency benchmarks). It is available at newegg for about the same price as the 1000w coolermaster (maybe $30 cheaper). Of these 2 which is the best bet do you think? And I'm still open to other suggestions, I'm guessing 850w will be enough even with some extra case fans and external hard drives but I need SOME room for expansion as I will get SSD when they get cheaper and possibly a second vid card. Thanks for any info you can provide.
 

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If its for gaming drop the i7 down to the i5 2500k almost same exact gaming performance for $100 cheaper

Z68 hands down...

For RAM go with 8GB (2x4GB) G.Skill DDR3 1600 no need to go over that

For HDD I would advise a Samsung Spinpoint F3 or Seagate Barracuda, WD is good I just favor these 2 more.

Best bang for you buck would not be a 580, its the best GPU out right now though. If you got the money then go ahead

You do not need a sound card unless you are producing music or crap like that onboard is good enough save the money.

Yes you wil need a CPU cooler if you plan to OC your system
 

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Also you think 2x8GB sticks or 4x4GB sticks is better? CAS latency is slightly better on 4x4GB it seems but I'm wondering about the dual channel of 2 sticks (1dimm per slot) compared to dual channel 2 dimm per slot
and yeah it seems that DDR3 1600 is bout the same as 1833 so I might switch to 1600
 

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NEW MOBO CONSIDERATIONS:

ASUS P8Z68 DELUXE/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS (really great reviews but only like 8 total reviews) (seems it just has an upgraded chipset cooler over the non-deluxe version thought here may be more underneath, same amount of slots/ports etc.

ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Extended ATX Intel Motherboard (not bad reviews but looks like there have been a lot of DOA and problems with SATA and/or RAM ports being dead upon receipt)


Thanks guys.
 

Emelth

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Cant handle it anymore posting builds hard to see what your looking for, do you have a monitor?

This build will last throughout the next 5 years with only just adding a GPU to increase performance

Couple places to save:
1) Drop down CPU to i5 since there is not a big enough difference for the $100
2) You can go with the case you choosed doesnt matter I believe yours is cheaper
3) If you dont want to go into Water Cooling go with almost any $45 heatsink
4) Drop the PSU down to a 800 or 850 and it will still be able to handle Dual SLI

Corsair Graphite Series 600T CC600TM Mid-Tower Gaming Case - $160.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139007

Intel Core i7-2700K Sandy Bridge 3.5GHz (3.9GHz Turbo) - $370.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115095

ASRock Z68 PROFESSIONAL GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 - $255.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157263

CORSAIR H100 (CWCH100) Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler - $120.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181017

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM - $160.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Crucial M4 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) - $208.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 - $45.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428

MSI N580GTX Twin Frozr II/OC GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB - $500.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127567

ASUS 24X DVD Burner - $20.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RSA00-AMBAJ3-US 1000W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE - $176.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171049

Total: 2014.00
 

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yes I have 2 monitors and all the peripherals this computer is just replacing my last home build (which was about 3 years ago)

[[[[phenom x4 9950 BE, 8GB DDR2 RAM, geforce GTX 280, 1TB HDD]]] that's the bulk of my current computer just looking to build a new one it's been 3 years and deployment money is burnin a hole in my pocket ;) it's either this or a new car so I think this is a better choice for the long run of saving my money lol
 

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Yeah I'm planning on the classified version from EVGA it has 3GB RAM and little higher clock rates and better cooling.
what do you think about this for a RAM choice? and if 16GB becomes a thing later I can easily buy 2 more sticks on the cheap.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445

G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM
 

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And would it hurt to be at 16GB RAM (buying 2 of the 2x4GB kits) because I don't mind spending the money on it. I also do some audio and video compression and fruity loops stuff but mainly this will be for gaming like 90%.
 

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some recommendations.

dont have several monitors plugged in if your not going to be gaming on them. just because your not playing the game on the other monitor doesnt mean that the gpu doesnt have to output those pixels. thats a lose in performance.

also dual 580's would pretty much be a waste of money at the day and age. i mean a single 580 will play bf3 just fine at ultra settings at 1080p. but if you have the money and want to spend it then its all good but thats just an area that you could cut costs and if you want more performance after you buy then you can always buy another.
 

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I am usually listening to music or watching a movie on the 2nd one. FPS its usually music, games like wow or RPG type stuff that is less fast twitch I watch movies on monitor 2. I suppose I could unplug the other monitor and just play the music from the desktop with game on top though, hmmm.
 

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New build WITH LINKS:
This is from my wish list on newegg and only a couple things have changed but there are links now if you have time to check them out. I would appreciate any advice even though I didn't take some of it so far (didn't drop to i5, I see some small FPS increases from the i7 over the i5 which isn't really worth $100 but I don't mind it and like being able to say I have an i7) Also I kept sound card because I like to plug my MIDI keyboard into my computer and mess with fruityloops and such sometimes I like the front panel on that one but open to other suggestions. Everyone is saying 8GB RAM so I am trying to research what kind of difference I will see with 16GB and 8GB, I have always just tried to get as much RAM as possible lol don't know why but if there is a performance decrease to 16GB I wouldn't do it, I just can't find the information on the research behind it if it's gain, decrease or no difference. If it is even a small gain I am ok with paying the money now rather than later, software in the future will need more RAM so why not futureproof. The board has solid benchmarks from tomshardware and solid reviews from newegg I worry about the CM 212 EVO fitting on the board with all the heatsink around the processor area and the RAM but I figure I will try it out if it doesn't look like it'll fit I can send it back and try something else. I've made a lot of changes since I first started this process of building (started with AMD build) so it's come a long way and all of your advice has been extremely helpful, let's see if there is any last minute tweaking I can do to get a sweet new computer and hopefully the links help if you have time to read al this and check out links. Thanks guys!

My Wish List Details

Deployment Computer

Qty. Image Product Description Unit Price Savings Total Price

1 COOLER MASTER HAF X Blue Edition RC-942-KKN3 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case with Black Interior and Four Blue LED Fans-1x 140mm rear 1x 200mm top 1x 200mm side and 1x 230mm front
Model #:RC-942-KKN3
Item #:N82E16811119239
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock

$219.99
-$10.00 Instant
$209.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119239

1 ASUS P8Z68 DELUXE/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
Model #:p8Z68 DELUXE/GEN3
Item #:N82E16813131791
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock

$269.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131791

1 EVGA 03G-P3-1588-AR GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) Classified 3072MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Model #:03G-P3-1588-AR
Item #:N82E16814130732
Return Policy:VGA Standard Return Policy
Out Of Stock

$599.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130732

1 COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold Series RSA00-80GAD3-US 1000W ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Model #:RSA00-80GAD3-US
Item #:N82E16817171056
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock

$229.99
-$20.00 Instant
$209.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171056

1 Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I72600K
Model #:BX80623I72600K
Item #:N82E16819115070
Return Policy:CPU Replacement Only Return Policy
In Stock

$319.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

2 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM
Model #:F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM
Item #:N82E16820231445
Return Policy:Memory Standard Return Policy
In Stock

$64.99
$129.98
(I know you guys are saying 8GB is the sweet spot but I wonder if I should buy 1 set or 2 sets of this, will I see no performance gain with 16GB or only a little bit or a performance decrease? I wouldn't mind having it for future proofing so I don't have to worry about finding the same kit later to upgrade to 16GB if need be, I can't find any benchmarks on the 8GB vs 16GB difference) thanks guys.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445

1 Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Model #:WD2002FAEX
Item #:N82E16822136792
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock

$269.99 (might buy a smaller one til the prices drop on these but no one knows really when that'll be)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136792

2 ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
Model #:DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
Item #:N82E16827135204
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock

$19.99
$39.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

1 Creative PCI Express Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series Sound Card
Model #:70SB088600007
Item #:N82E16829102021
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock

$199.99
-$36.00 Instant
$163.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102021

1 COOLER MASTER R4-L2R-20AC-GP 120mm Blue LED Case Fan
Model #:R4-L2R-20AC-GP
Item #:N82E16835103060
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock

$7.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103060

1 COOLER MASTER Megaflow 200 R4-LUS-07AB-GP 200mm Blue LED Case Fan
Model #:R4-LUS-07AB-GP
Item #:N82E16835103073
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock
Mail in Rebate

$22.99
-$1.00 Instant
$21.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103073

1 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R1 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler Compatible with latest Intel 1366/1155 and AMD FM1/AM3+
Model #:RR-212E-20PK-R1
Item #:N82E16835103099
Return Policy:Standard Return Policy
In Stock

$34.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

Subtotal: $2,278.86

 

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pretty much just for the front panel lol though you're right the on-board sound has plenty of connections including fiber optic out, how does realtek stack up for sound quality? I mess around with some music editing and sound engineering stuff but maybe the on-board video cards nowadays can handle it just as well?
 

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gpu:
i am wondering why you choose one of the most expensive 580's out there...? i mean yeah its overclock from the factory but so is this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125379
and i garuentee that one has better cooling. oh and yours is out of stock.

hdd:
if you have a hard drive laying around dont buy that hard drive use a spare till prices come down. hell id sell you a hard drive i have laying around for much less.