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$1000+ moderate gaming rig

pproximate Purchase Date: this week, as soon as i get a complete part list

Budget Range: around 1000 to 1200

System Usage from Most to Least Important: some gaming(want to get some new games) watching movies(want to get a blue ray player to watch blue rays, i have 2 asus vs247 monitors), the usual internet and word processing

Parts Not Required: monitors, keyboard, mouse, speakers, ram, already have windows 7 pro 64bit
I already have corsair 16gb xms3 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233190]


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg, amazon

Country: (e.g.: India) we need to know where these parts are being assembled

Parts Preferences: by brand or type want to use one of these two cases
Corsair Special Edition White Graphite Series 600T
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139005

or
Thermaltake Level 10 GT Black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133188

leaning towards intel i7. want this computer to last for a while so i figured an i7 would be better and i possibly want to look into overclocking.


also not sure if i should just use a regular fan cooler for the cpu or go for the corsair h60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181015&Tpk=corsair%20h60
Overclocking: maybe

SLI or Crossfire: maybe

Monitor Resolution:2 monitors at 1920x1080

Additional Comments: want something that will keep up with the standard for a couple of years. dont need a top of the line graphics card, just something to handle the blueray and games. want this to be a moderate build, not an extreme gaming rig.
This is my first build so im not too sure about which processor and motherboard to use, thats my main concern.

Thanks, iappreciate your help
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  1. how come nobody is answering my post?
  2. hopefulhype said:
    how come nobody is answering my post?


    Just be patience and give it some time...
  3. hey can you fix your urls... dont post urls in code, forget the code and just copy the urls in the text...
    This...(no )
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139005
    not...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139005
  4. Delirious788 said:
    hey can you fix your urls... dont post urls in code, forget the code and just copy the urls in the text...
    This...(no )
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139005
    not...
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139005



    fixed
  5. CPU: i7-2500K $215
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070
    MB: GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 $150
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128512
    CPU Cooler: Good:
    COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus $26
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
    or Great:
    Scythe SCMG-3000 CPU Cooler $50
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185168
    GPU: GeForce GTX 560 Ti $215
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363
    SSD: Crucial M4 2.5" 64GB SATA III MLC $115
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441
    HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 RPM $160
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
    ODD: SAMSUNG Black SATA Internal Blu-ray Combo $60
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151222
    PSU: If future Crossfire or SLI:
    CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W $90
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021
    or
    If no future Crossfire or SLI:
    CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W $75
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020
    Case: Corsair Special Edition White Graphite Series 600T $170
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139005

    Total: $1186-$1225

    I have the i5 instead of the i7 because you probably dont need the hyperthreading, even if you want this to last a long time. Ivy bridge, the next intel cpu only has 4 cores, and it was just released that haswell, intels cpu after Ivy Bridge, will also only have max 4 cores, so thats 2 future generations, I think you will be good.
    The CPU Coolers listed are good, there might be better, check out frostytech charts. If you are not going to be a serious overclocker(maxing it out/Prime95 and so on...just looking for like 4.0GHz), you don't need but like a $50 cooler at most. I wouldn't get a Corsair H60/H80/H100 because they are over priced compared to big air coolers ~$80 that can do better then them...plus then you dont have to worry about leaks, keeping water in it, and all of that.
    Also, I have a 1TB HDD, but with the price of HDDs right now, I would get 500GB at $90 until 1TB come down to like ~$80.

    That should get a decent start for others to modify and get you the best thing...

    Added PSU and fixed other parts...
  6. hopefulhype said:
    fixed


    thanks!
  7. AHH dang I forgot the PSU...no wonder why it was a nice pc for so little...my bad...
    In all honestly, I would get like $100 case and a PSU for like $80 or less. If you want to do SLI or Crossfire in the future, get a 750watt psu. If not then get 550watt.
  8. Delirious788 said:
    CPU: i7-2500K $215
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070
    MB: GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3P LGA 1155 Intel Z68 $170
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128506
    CPU Cooler: *Thermaltake Frio $53
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106150
    or
    **COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO $35
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
    GPU: *Radeon HD 6870 $170
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150521
    or
    **GeForce GTX 560 Ti $215
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363
    SSD: Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC $210
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442
    HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 1TB 7200 RPM $160
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
    ODD: SAMSUNG Black SATA Internal Blu-ray Combo $60
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151222
    Case: Corsair Special Edition White Graphite Series 600T $170
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139005

    Total: $1208* or $1235**

    I have the i5 instead of the i7 because you probably dont need the hyperthreading, even if you want this to last a long time. Ivy bridge, the next intel cpu only has 4 cores, and it was just released that haswell, intels cpu after Ivy Bridge, will also only have max 4 cores, so thats 2 future generations, I think you will be good.
    The CPU Coolers listed are good, there might be better, check out frostytech charts. If you are not going to be a serious overclocker(maxing it out/Prime95 and so on...just looking for like 4.0GHz), you don't need but like a $50 cooler at most. Definitely don't get a Corsair H60/H80/H100 because they are over priced compared to big air coolers ~$80 that can do better then them...plus then you dont have to worry about leaks, keeping water in it, and all of that.
    Also, I have a 1TB HDD, but with the price of HDDs right now, I would get 500GB at $90 and then get a CPU cooler around $50 and the GTX 560 Ti

    That should get a decent start for others to modify and get you the best thing...


    Nice attempt but what you propose is unbalanced in many ways and for many reasons. I will post a build later when i got the time unless you already get help.
  9. vx53c said:
    Nice attempt but what you propose is unbalanced in many ways and for many reasons. I will post a build later when i got the time unless you already get help.


    Yeah I was thinking I could get a lot more out of it, since he had some stuff but I as remembered I forgot some things, the build isnt going to really work...
  10. Best answer
    Delirious788 said:
    Yeah I was thinking I could get a lot more out of it, since he had some stuff but I as remembered I forgot some things, the build isnt going to really work...

    Don't get me wrong, i liked your style and sure they will work, it is just that they are not all at the same tier. Devil is in the details.
    I will make a build and tell you why i deviate from each of your choices.

    Case - Any of these, just personal taste ~ 65$
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233&Tpk=cooler%20master%20912
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133190&Tpk=thermaltake%20commander
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129066&Tpk=antec%20illusion
    They offer pretty much the same as your choice for a lot less buck allowing that sum to go into the users needs. (Depending on the use of the system)

    Mobo - Asrock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen3 - 125$
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271
    Sadly the mobo scene is totally unbalanced. Asrock offers the best bang for buck without compromising quality or power phases. Gigabyte doesn't futureproof as much as they could (they refuse to make true gen3 boards for the budget range), MSI is so expensive followed with their terrible reputation of DOA boards and uncomfortable layouts, Asus offers top quality for pretty much everything but i only propose their products to people hell bent on OCing close to 5ghz because simply the difference between Asrock z68 e3 gen3 and p8z68v-pro/gen3 (or the vanilla gen3) is close to 100$!

    CPU - i5 2500k - 215$
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
    The horsepower behind the i7 2600k is unneeded. Only if the user needs intense hyperthreading and crazy video editing should they seek the i7 2600k. For gaming and power usage of the computer the i5 2500k is more than enough and won't start bottlenecking your gpu until some SLI 580s or more.

    GPU - Asus 580 - 500$
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121429
    (If you can afford it, anything less might not be adequate for your two monitor setup)

    or if you cannot

    Gigabyte 570 OC - 345$
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125384

    Depending what the user needs the computer for, you give it all the money you saved here taking into consideration variables like monitor resolution and performance of each card. Big cards with small psu's offer the best performance/price off the bat. Bigger PSUs and cards that play everything now and will require a twin in a year or two (always resolution in mind) offer best futureproofing.


    RAM - Patriot 2x4gb - 45$
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220570
    Totally low profile memories to accommodate bulky heatsinks. 1.5v if you can help it, or lower. 1.65v is fine too but that is the limit.
    If you are not going for unlocked CPU and you won't be using aftermarket cooler, then fine just get whichever profile.

    PSU - Antec earthwatts 650watts - 70$
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371044
    Now that you know what kind of power draw our user will have and if they want futureproofing or not, you chose the cheapest credible psu at the needed range.

    Cooler - Corsair A70 - 39$
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181011&Tpk=Corsair%20A70
    Better than the CM 212, more silent with the decelerator diodes while not compromising performance, comes with all you need including awesome thermal paste.

    Grand Total: 1059$ without HDD

    For HDD try to find a better deal on a local store that might have pre-floods stock prices. Look for WD Caviar Black/Samsung Spinpoint F3/Seagate barracuda 7200.12. Aim for 60$ and the best gb you can get (more than 500gb if you can help it).

    Optical drive: Get whatever cheapo that can burn dvds starting at 15$

    SSD - I usually propose an ssd of 120-128gb for any build that goes above 1k$.
    Because of the 580 and the uniqueness of the 2monitor setup an ssd will throw us off budget. Anyhow:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227726
    User's budget met
  11. vx53c said:
    Don't get me wrong, i liked your style and sure they will work, it is just that they are not all at the same tier. Devil is in the details.
    I will make a build and tell you why i deviate from each of your choices.

    Did you just decide to throw all of his preferences out the door and go with your own because you know all and what is better for him? I am sorry, but you managed to not keep a single thing from his preferences...even said to buy different RAM, something he already has. His RAM was already low profile and at 1.5v, both of your points. Did you even read his first post? And yes his preferred cases are expensive, but IMO the looks of a case are huge personal preferences. I say just give the man what he wants. His choices are fine, and you really can make a solid build with those choices. I'm sorry and I don't want you to think that I'm attacking you, but it seems like you really just put a build together that "fits in the budget" and completely ignored what he wanted. I updated my build before you posted this one, and I think it is still a better fit for him.

    Hopefulhype,
    You could take the ASRock motherboard and CPU Cooler and swap it out for my new updated build that now includes a PSU to further lower the cost of the total build. I know my build is on the higher end of your budget, but I believe it will set you up with a decent build for your wants that will last you a long time. The only upgrade would be adding in another GTX 560 Ti later down the road, when you need more graphics power.
  12. Ah you are right about the memory, it will do. I missed that part. Keep the ram.
    As for the case, sure it's good and for some people it matters. It is a pity to sacrifice money for the case and not put it into horsepower but as you said it is a personal opinion. In the end it is how everybody prefers their computer, eyecandy being on the screen or on the the exterior of the case.
    As for the 560ti, he has dual monitor setup. The card will struggle under the load and all this will have been for nothing (or he will be forced to use just one monitor).
    I spoke out of pure hardware part and sorry if i offended anybody. Certainly not my intention. Only wanted to help in both cases.
  13. I took both of your posts into consideration and looked into some more parts. This is what ive come up with, let me know what you think about it. i went for a modular power supply mostly for the ability to use what cables i need and not have extras, I want to stick with the corsair for looks(i want this to perform good and look good at the same time), I'm still not sure about what graphics card to get. i want something that performs well and will also look decent, The gtx 580 is a little bit too pricy but looks good. is there something a level down that will still perform well and have some sort of enclosure to make it look good?

    This is what i came up with

    Case: Corsair Special Edition White Graphite Series 600T
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139005

    Processor: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

    Mobo: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271

    CPU Fan: Thermaltake Frio
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106150

    or
    COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

    HDD: I think im just going to use a WD 500gb green drive until the prices of hard drives come down

    SSD: I forgot i have a Corsair Nova Series 2 that i want to try out
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233188

    Ram: The Corsair xm63 16gb that i have

    PSU: CORSAIR Professional Series HX650 or if you have a better suggestion for a modular psu
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139012

    ODD: LG Black 12X BD-ROM
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136232

    GPU: Something that has an enclosure and is a little less than the 580
    saw an msi 560Ti, is that decent?
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127608

    I calculated a price of $1119.91 if i used the 560Ti so i could probably spend $100 more on a graphics card if needed. i dont really want to go over $1200

    Thanks
  14. for 2 monitors the 560ti won't be enough. Your other option is the crossfire 6950 which will require more psu power and will increase your budget significantly. Maybe get better psu and a 6950 and then crossfire it later on? Don't know what to suggest really, i only know that if you plan to use more than one monitor for gaming at the same time then a 560ti won't do.
  15. vx53c said:
    for 2 monitors the 560ti won't be enough. Your other option is the crossfire 6950 which will require more psu power and will increase your budget significantly. Maybe get better psu and a 6950 and then crossfire it later on? Don't know what to suggest really, i only know that if you plan to use more than one monitor for gaming at the same time then a 560ti won't do.



    i wouldnt necessarily be using both monitors to play a game, I think one monitor to play a game will do just fine
  16. Well then a 6950 will do fine and you will have the option to (if you ever run out of juice) xfire it and get on top of things again. How about that?
  17. vx53c said:
    Well then a 6950 will do fine and you will have the option to (if you ever run out of juice) xfire it and get on top of things again. How about that?


    which 6950?
  18. any! :D
    well, since you got dual monitor get a 2gb one (the only reason anybody should get a 2gb 6950)
    The cheapest credible you can find. Sapphire, Evga, HIS, Gigabyte, powercolor, MSI
  19. vx53c said:
    any! :D
    well, since you got dual monitor get a 2gb one (the only reason anybody should get a 2gb 6950)
    The cheapest credible you can find. Sapphire, Evga, HIS, Gigabyte, powercolor, MSI


    Thanks, I think i might go with an xfx, I have an older one in my current computer now and it handles 2 monitors fine.

    What would you recommend if i wanted to go with nvidia instead of amd?
  20. wait, wait...how can you say the 560 Ti wont be enough? I am sorry for disagreeing on like everything you say...

    Hopefulhype
    If you can afford a 6950 then awesome, but hold on just a little bit.
    First, do you plan on gaming using both screens? Personally, I have a HD5770, dual monitors, both 1920x1080, and I get decent fps(I run games in window at 1680x1050), but I don't game on dual because the split of the screens is right in the middle, so it just makes for horrible game play. At least that's what I think. If you are running dual monitors like me, it is for multitasking. You game on the main screen, and have internet, music, movies/videos, or whatever else going on on the other screen. Is this what you were thinking of doing? No?

    Now if you were doing 3 screens, well that is a whole different story, the center is actually in the middle of the screen, so you game on all 3. It is best to game on odd number of screens...1,3,5 is what you hear about, not 2 and 4.

    I am also sorry I didn't check the post more recently to bring this up sooner.

    Your build is looking good.

    vx53c, I honestly agree with a lot you are saying, it is just that he wants specific things. The case really is out of budget compared to everything else. Your build is a really rock solid build for the budget.

    fyi...1680x1050 in window allows for easy switching to other apps, and the 1050 with a border is the perfect height to fit in 1080.
  21. Delirious788 said:
    wait, wait...how can you say the 560 Ti wont be enough? I am sorry for disagreeing on like everything you say...

    Hopefulhype
    If you can afford a 6950 then awesome, but hold on just a little bit.
    First, do you plan on gaming using both screens? Personally, I have a HD5770, dual monitors, both 1920x1080, and I get decent fps(I run games in window at 1680x1050), but I don't game on dual because the split of the screens is right in the middle, so it just makes for horrible game play. At least that's what I think. If you are running dual monitors like me, it is for multitasking. You game on the main screen, and have internet, music, movies/videos, or whatever else going on on the other screen. Is this what you were thinking of doing? No?

    Now if you were doing 3 screens, well that is a whole different story, the center is actually in the middle of the screen, so you game on all 3. It is best to game on odd number of screens...1,3,5 is what you hear about, not 2 and 4.

    I am also sorry I didn't check the post more recently to bring this up sooner.

    Your build is looking good.

    vx53c, I honestly agree with a lot you are saying, it is just that he wants specific things. The case really is out of budget compared to everything else. Your build is a really rock solid build for the budget.

    fyi...1680x1050 in window allows for easy switching to other apps, and the 1050 with a border is the perfect height to fit in 1080.


    so you run games at a lower resolution?
    and youre right, the dual monitors is mostly just for multitasking
  22. Yeah, but it isn't for better fps, it is so switching between other programs and the game is a lot easier and quicker, and the 1680x1050 size allows for the full window to fit on the 1920x1080 screen perfectly(in window mode, the monitors still are at 1920x1080, the original setting).

    But dont get me wrong. The 560Ti is powerful and might be all you need, but in reality put as much as your budget allows towards the GPU. See how much you have left and are willing to put towards the GPU and check out... http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fastest-graphics-card-radeon-geforce,3067.html
  23. Best answer selected by hopefulhype.
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