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November 16, 2011 7:07:13 PM


This is to be used for general use and occasional gaming, and any help would be appreciated. This is my first time doing anything like this.

APEVIA X-Dreamer ATXB3KL-BK/420 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 420W Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seagate Barracuda ST3250312AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

BIOSTAR A55MH FM1 AMD A55 (Hudson D2) HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GV-R545D3-1GI Radeon HD 5450 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Value Series 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL9S-4GBNT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Phenom II X4 830 Deneb 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor HDX830WFK4DGM - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Nippon Labs Sleeve Bearing Crystal LED Fan in Blue color 80mm 4 LED Case Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



This is more expensive than this barebones kit I found on Tigerdirect, but what I'm really interested in which one is better. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

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a b B Homebuilt system
November 16, 2011 7:16:12 PM

WAIT! YOUR MOTHERBOARD AND CPU IS NOT COMPATIBLE!!!!!! You're trying to put an CPU (socket AM3) into a socket FM1 Motherboard. NO CAN DO.
Also if you read the reviews for the case/psu, the psu doesn't apparently have a SATA power line, which you need for a hard drive.

As of now, it looks like the barebones is better than your build, just due to the RAM and HDD size.


Also, what do you want to do with this computer? Games? Internet/e-mails? Videos? Each will be a different setup.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 16, 2011 7:18:56 PM

I would go for a Llano build. Get an A4, A6, or A8. They have built in distrete level graphics good for some gaming. Saves you the money of buying a discrete card. Also, the mobo isn't compatible with the CPU. Keep the mobo the same but take out the gpu and get a FM1 APU.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 16, 2011 7:21:49 PM

samuelspark said:
I would go for a Llano build. Get an A4, A6, or A8. They have built in distrete level graphics good for some gaming. Saves you the money of buying a discrete card. Also, the mobo isn't compatible with the CPU. Keep the mobo the same but take out the gpu and get a FM1 APU.

Correct, something such as:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 16, 2011 7:26:58 PM

Oh wow, I didn't even know they made combined ones like that. If I were to get that, what would be a good motherboard in the $60-$80 range? And if I have to get other stuff to get my power supply to work with everything, should I get the case on the barebones kit instead?

Thank you for all the help, I really need it.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 16, 2011 7:29:28 PM

koleya said:
Oh wow, I didn't even know they made combined ones like that. If I were to get that, what would be a good motherboard in the $60-$80 range? And if I have to get other stuff to get my power supply to work with everything, should I get the case on the barebones kit instead?

Thank you for all the help, I really need it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 16, 2011 8:44:49 PM

Okay so how about this?

Cooler Master Computer Case Cooling R4-L2R-20AC-GP
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0026ZPFCK/ref=ox_sc_a...

Biostar USA AMD FM1 Socket, A55 Chipset, Micro ATX Motherboard DDR3 1800 (A55MH)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005SAVI6W/ref=ox_sc_a...

Diablotek Elite ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - CPA-0280
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004Z0NZNK/ref=ox_sc_a...

AMD A6-3650 APU with AMD Radeon 6530 HD Graphics 2.6GHz Socket FM1 100W Quad-Core Processor
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0055ZCXUK/ref=ox_sc_a...

Seagate Barracuda 7200 500 GB SATA 6.0 Gb-s 16 MB Cache 3.5-Inch Internal Bare Drive
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005CT56R6/ref=ox_sc_a...

Corsair Vengeance Blue 8 GB (2 X 4 GB) PC3-12800 1600mHz DDR3 240-Pin SDRAM Dual Channel Memory Kit
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004QBUL1C/ref=ox_sc_a...

Would this work? If so, what else would I need?

I have an OS, monitor, keyboard, and mouse already. I plan to use this for general gaming (no running everything on High/Ultra) and Internet/homework.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 16, 2011 10:03:12 PM

koleya said:
Forgot this too:

GIGABYTE Radeon HD6850 1 GB DDR3 DVI/D-SUB/HDMI Low Profile Graphics Card
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005E81W32/ref=ox_sc_a...

That is not the 6850....This is a Radeon 6850:
http://www.amazon.com/XFX-Radeon-6850-820M-DDR5/dp/B004...
Also, I wouldn't play games unless I have this card:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
unless, of course, by games you mean farmville...
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November 16, 2011 10:11:42 PM

Sadly, that's out of my price range. If there is already a graphics unit in the AMD APU, do I need another one? Also, is there a decent graphics card for around $70? I know it's low, but I'm on a pretty small budget.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 16, 2011 10:23:59 PM

koleya said:
Sadly, that's out of my price range. If there is already a graphics unit in the AMD APU, do I need another one? Also, is there a decent graphics card for around $70? I know it's low, but I'm on a pretty small budget.


Well, it depends on your resolution and what games are we talking about? The onbaord graphics that come with the APUs are decent gamers-within reason. If you want to game at 1080p, then you will want to take a look at a discrete graphics card. I too would recommend the HD5670, its a powerful card that has limited power requirements and certainly would be great for gaming.
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November 16, 2011 10:28:23 PM

Okay so it says it needs a 6000 series to keep the other graphics cores on. Even though this one is a 5000 series, would it still work?

"Unlike the competition, AMD A-Series APUs discrete-level graphics cores stay on when paired with select AMD Radeon HD 6000 series graphics cards."

Sorry, I hope this isn't getting annoying
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 16, 2011 10:33:15 PM

koleya said:
Okay so it says it needs a 6000 series to keep the other graphics cores on. Even though this one is a 5000 series, would it still work?

"Unlike the competition, AMD A-Series APUs discrete-level graphics cores stay on when paired with select AMD Radeon HD 6000 series graphics cards."

Sorry, I hope this isn't getting annoying


Probably, but not effectively...You see, the APU (the graphics in the CPU), when matched with a discrete 6000's series graphics card acts like a Crossfire system. So the GPU in the CPU (nice string of words eh?) will work with the gfx card you put in and work together to make "one" single card that performs better.
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November 16, 2011 10:34:44 PM

Hmm...So that gigabyte one I listed is in the 6000 series, would it work?
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 16, 2011 10:37:35 PM

I don't think that is a 6850...TBH, I don't even know what card that is. Could be a 5000 or even a 4000 series card for all we know
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 16, 2011 10:50:14 PM

I say you'd have better graphics with a single 5670.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 16, 2011 10:52:43 PM

buzznut said:
I say you'd have better graphics with a single 5670.

Aye Aye!
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November 16, 2011 10:57:33 PM

I thin I'll got with the Sapphire one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

That way it would work with the graphics cores in the A6 APU. It's in my price range, and it says on the box on Amazon it works with 6570 cards.

Thank you for the help, now I just have to order/build it.
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 16, 2011 10:59:34 PM

Good luck!
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November 16, 2011 11:01:10 PM

Best answer selected by koleya.
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November 16, 2011 11:07:27 PM

Do you have another hard drive? if so just reuse it. Buying a hard drive now-a-days with the flooding in Thailand isn't an appealing option (my 60 dollar 1tb drive is now 150+ shipping)

Also, what about just going with 4g for now and putting the other 20 bucks into a faster gpu, games can't use (or 99% of the time won't) more then 4g anyways :) 
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a b B Homebuilt system
November 16, 2011 11:34:29 PM

Whoa up! Do NOT use a Diablotek PSU-shaped object to power your rig! They are system-killing disasters just waiting to happen. Competent technical reviews of them can be found at www.jonnyguru.com and www.hardwaresecrets.com. They are absolute junk. Apevia really isn't any better. At the low end, look for a 380W Antec Earthwatts or 400W Corsair Builder or Xigmatek.
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