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December 15, 2010 1:57:19 AM

Hello,
i m stanley. i would like to track what website was my friend visited. i would like to track him by using my computer.We are sharing the same router. any software can do so? for example, i would like to know what website is he currently search. how can i check it with my computer. thx

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December 15, 2010 11:52:49 AM

This is illegal. Unless you are the network administrator and hand him a terms of use agreement stating that you have the right to snoop all network traffic you are breaking the law. I won't help you.
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December 15, 2010 7:38:07 PM

I don't think it's illegal, as you are both on the same network and router, as long as this is a privately owned device. It's like going though your wifes phone to check who she's calling. If this was a official investigation and you just did this, then it's illegal and evidence could not be valid. Privite snooping, eh.

Does not sound very nice, and it's easy enough to find out how to do this in many places.
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December 16, 2010 12:13:41 PM

Psychoteddy said:
This is illegal. Unless you are the network administrator and hand him a terms of use agreement stating that you have the right to snoop all network traffic you are breaking the law. I won't help you.


hi psychoteddy,
i think there is some misunderstanding over here.
okay~. let me tell you the real situation that i m having now.

actually i m the person in charge in an orphanage house. There are some rules had been set.
1. No download is allowed.
2. No pornography site is allowed.
3. No online games is allowed.
and so on
May be you will advise me to block all those website so that they cannot visit those website. however, this is not I and my management want. what we want were to monitor which website they are visited. So that we can know them better and figure out what they want and what is the problem they are facing and eventually come out with the solution to consult them one by one.

freakly speaking, it is not easy to handle such a huge number of children. i really hope that u can help me..
thx u so much.
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December 16, 2010 12:25:36 PM

bakacupid said:
hi psychoteddy,
i think there is some misunderstanding over here.
okay~. let me tell you the real situation that i m having now.

actually i m the person in charge in an orphanage house. There are some rules had been set.
1. No download is allowed.
2. No pornography site is allowed.
3. No online games is allowed.
and so on
May be you will advise me to block all those website so that they cannot visit those website. however, this is not I and my management want. what we want were to monitor which website they are visited. So that we can know them better and figure out what they want and what is the problem they are facing and eventually come out with the solution to consult them one by one.

freakly speaking, it is not easy to handle such a huge number of children. i really hope that u can help me..
thx u so much.


Ah alright, that sounds much better. :sol:  I also forgot that there are some implied terms of use that can be applied to public networks. Easiest route is to setup a DynDNS account and do the blocking that way, you can also go through your router's settings to block certain services and keywords, but this isn't quite as effective. I would also setup a block on HTTPS traffic so that they can't bypass the DynDNS block by using encrypted traffic.

I hope you'll accept this mental patient as a component of my apology: :pt1cable: 
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December 16, 2010 1:11:17 PM

Actually you should handle this in not just your way. One, set up a written and posted policy, you probably have a central bulliten board, tape it up there and make sure you get the info to them to look at it, and maybe leave a copy with each of the staff/residents.

Two, setup a router with blocks to certain keywords, or a firewall which in your case may be better. If you contact some IT vendors and consultants in your area, seeing the organization you are working in (orphanage) I am willing to bet that you will have all you need donated to you, including the work to get it configured and the hardware.

Three, THEN you monitor for breaches and attempted breaches. Your idea to just let people do whatever and then talk to them is not the best idea to use in your case, or in any oranized system. Even at home I tell my kids "these sites are off limits" then I put in a hard block to them anyway (as what kids listen to anything adults say), and I check the router's log once in a while.

You should lighten up a bit on the online games rule though, almost all entertament these days is online, just setup some safe sites to go to, and maybe some online games that are OK to play. WoW for one is OK for almost any age over 10, some other non-war type ones. Look at all the puzzle games on MSN and such, perfectly harmless stuff, yet it's technically an online game.
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December 16, 2010 1:37:49 PM

hang-the-9 said:
Actually you should handle this in not just your way. One, set up a written and posted policy, you probably have a central bulliten board, tape it up there and make sure you get the info to them to look at it, and maybe leave a copy with each of the staff/residents.

Two, setup a router with blocks to certain keywords, or a firewall which in your case may be better. If you contact some IT vendors and consultants in your area, seeing the organization you are working in (orphanage) I am willing to bet that you will have all you need donated to you, including the work to get it configured and the hardware.

Three, THEN you monitor for breaches and attempted breaches. Your idea to just let people do whatever and then talk to them is not the best idea to use in your case, or in any oranized system. Even at home I tell my kids "these sites are off limits" then I put in a hard block to them anyway (as what kids listen to anything adults say), and I check the router's log once in a while.

You should lighten up a bit on the online games rule though, almost all entertament these days is online, just setup some safe sites to go to, and maybe some online games that are OK to play. WoW for one is OK for almost any age over 10, some other non-war type ones. Look at all the puzzle games on MSN and such, perfectly harmless stuff, yet it's technically an online game.


Well the laws (at least in my area, they may be completely different elsewhere) generally don't prevent network administrators from blocking services and websites SO LONG as they are not inspecting packet data and retaining it for other purposes. Blocking the services outright is not illegal and can be done at will so long as you're a network admin.
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December 16, 2010 1:56:00 PM

Psychoteddy said:
Well the laws (at least in my area, they may be completely different elsewhere) generally don't prevent network administrators from blocking services and websites SO LONG as they are not inspecting packet data and retaining it for other purposes. Blocking the services outright is not illegal and can be done at will so long as you're a network admin.


Right, I was not commenting that they should not do what they want, but rather their idea of not blocking first but just watching what people do is not a good idea in my view.
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December 16, 2010 2:04:30 PM

hang-the-9 said:
Right, I was not commenting that they should not do what they want, but rather their idea of not blocking first but just watching what people do is not a good idea in my view.


Oh I see what you mean now. Yes, I agree, I'm not a fan of the idea of monitoring network traffic instead of blocking services and sites. It ultimately serves no purpose because if they're accessing unauthorized materials then you are going to block the sites anyways. Why not just skip the foreplay and setup the blocks?

I realize that these are children but you are still invading their privacy by doing this. It's a question of ethics IMO and I don't think that this is an ethical way of going about this. Either setup the blocks or don't, but inspecting ALL of their network traffic is a huge invasion of privacy, regardless if the law entitles them to it or not.
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