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November 16, 2011 8:49:37 PM

Hello everyone, I will be building a new budget PC for myself. This is my first build, though, so I need a few tips.

Is it worth buying the Intel Core i3 2100 over a similarly priced AMD CPU?

i3 2100 - $125: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD FX-4100 - $120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I know it will perform better in some tasks, but I know it's a dual-core and it can't be overclocked. I am leaning more towards the FX-4100 for the overclocking ability, and the quad-core... I'm simply afraid that dual-core won't be enough in the next few years. Also, with a new cooler for the CPU I'm sure it'll overclock well.

Since this is a budget build, I need a few suggestions on the motherboard to be used.

For the AM3+ CPU, I was considering to purchase this: ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard- $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory (CORSAIR Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMZ4GX3M2A1600C9- $33)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GFX card (XFX HD-687A-ZHFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card- $150 after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power supply (PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 500W High Performance SLI CrossFire ready Power Supply- $50 after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And case (NZXT GAMMA Classic Series GAMA-001BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case- $35)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sub-total:
$473

I left out hard drives and dvd drives because I already have those... Everything else in my computer is so outdated it's useless!

Thoughts?

Also, what's the chance of getting an even lower price on black friday? I was thinking about heading over to Fry's that night..

EDIT:

Approximate Purchase Date: (Within the next two weeks)

Budget Range: ($400-500 after rebates)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, game developing via SDKs, internet browsing

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, speakers, monitor, hard-drive (OS installed), DVD-drive, CD-drive

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: AMD due to budget build

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1360 x 768, 1024 x 768 (second monitor)

Additional Comments: Noise level shouldn't be ridiculous, just want a fast PC to run modern games, especially Skyrim and its upcoming mods, and be future-proof if the funds allow it at all.

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November 16, 2011 8:53:28 PM

Info provided is good, but please fill this out.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic...

The FX-4100 is enough and overclocking is easy. The build looks pretty good, I'd get this Antec Neo Eco 520w though, it's only $40 after promo code great deal!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for the CPU, I'd bundle up with the Cooler to just get it now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

You can just buy this now, most likely Black Friday will not make offers to good compared to this. Mainly since hardware components don't usually go on to large of a sale. Whats for sure is I'd get the Neo Eco before it sells out. That is the cheapest PSU out right now.
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November 16, 2011 9:14:27 PM

aznshinobi said:
Info provided is good, but please fill this out.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advic...

The FX-4100 is enough and overclocking is easy. The build looks pretty good, I'd get this Antec Neo Eco 520w though, it's only $40 after promo code great deal!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for the CPU, I'd bundle up with the Cooler to just get it now
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

You can just buy this now, most likely Black Friday will not make offers to good compared to this. Mainly since hardware components don't usually go on to large of a sale. Whats for sure is I'd get the Neo Eco before it sells out. That is the cheapest PSU out right now.


Yeah I'll purchase the Neo Eco instead of the PC Power and Cooling PSU. I just remember reading complaints about how Antec's quality has gone down significantly, and I don't want to get a crap PSU, lol. But it seems consumer reviews are mostly all positive. But! The cooler has to come at a later time as funding won't allow for that.

And check OP for info pertaining to build
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November 16, 2011 9:33:55 PM

Antec's are fine still, still OEM'd by the same people. As for the cooler that's fine, I was just suggesting it since the Combo drops the price down a bit. As for anything else, I believe I answered in my prior post.
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November 16, 2011 9:40:02 PM

muffinman121 said:
Hello everyone, I will be building a new budget PC for myself. This is my first build, though, so I need a few tips.

Is it worth buying the Intel Core i3 2100 over a similarly priced AMD CPU?

i3 2100 - $125: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
AMD FX-4100 - $120: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I know it will perform better in some tasks, but I know it's a dual-core and it can't be overclocked. I am leaning more towards the FX-4100 for the overclocking ability, and the quad-core... I'm simply afraid that dual-core won't be enough in the next few years. Also, with a new cooler for the CPU I'm sure it'll overclock well.

Since this is a budget build, I need a few suggestions on the motherboard to be used.

For the AM3+ CPU, I was considering to purchase this: ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard- $85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory (CORSAIR Vengeance 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMZ4GX3M2A1600C9- $33)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GFX card (XFX HD-687A-ZHFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card- $150 after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power supply (PC Power and Cooling Silencer Mk II 500W High Performance SLI CrossFire ready Power Supply- $50 after rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And case (NZXT GAMMA Classic Series GAMA-001BK Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case- $35)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Sub-total:
$473

I left out hard drives and dvd drives because I already have those... Everything else in my computer is so outdated it's useless!

Thoughts?

Also, what's the chance of getting an even lower price on black friday? I was thinking about heading over to Fry's that night..

EDIT:

Approximate Purchase Date: (Within the next two weeks)

Budget Range: ($400-500 after rebates)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, game developing via SDKs, internet browsing

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, speakers, monitor, hard-drive (OS installed), DVD-drive, CD-drive

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: AMD due to budget build

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1360 x 768, 1024 x 768 (second monitor)

Additional Comments: Noise level shouldn't be ridiculous, just want a fast PC to run modern games, especially Skyrim and its upcoming mods, and be future-proof if the funds allow it at all.




IMO Neither of these CPUs will last a few years. In fact, you could get a 960T, or 955 for the same price, and it would be a "true" quad core, easy to overclock, and perform better in games. Just my opinion :)  the 4100 is interesting to me only because it is new, but the safe bet is the old architecture which will perform better.
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November 16, 2011 9:56:53 PM

Yes I agree get the 955.
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November 16, 2011 10:08:45 PM

So, don't go with the FX then?
Would it make a big difference if I bought the 970 rather than the 955? Only a $15 difference..
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November 16, 2011 10:15:16 PM

muffinman121 said:
So, don't go with the FX then?
Would it make a big difference if I bought the 970 rather than the 955? Only a $15 difference..


Get the 960T, same price (actually 15 cheaper today) than the 955 and has a 50/50 chance of unlocking to a 6 core... its the best deal right now for $110.
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November 17, 2011 12:23:42 AM

The Antec Neo doesn't come with a power cord. Make sure you buy one if you don't have a spare lying down.

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November 17, 2011 1:41:41 AM

Both are good the FX-4100 defiantly has positives, I think going with that would be a better choice after the next stepping. Atm as stated the 960T is a pretty solid chip for the price. If you want to overclock though, I might choose the FX-4100 though. As shown in this review, it boosts the CPU performance by 27% after a 1GHZ overclock which in the review it said was attainable with the stock cooler and just a decent motherboard.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1766/16/
It doesn't state temps or gaming performance after OC but just fruit for thought.
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