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September 20, 2011 4:21:41 AM

I currently have enough money to get any one of these cards. Which one would be the best? I generally like nvidia better, but the radeon series seems like a good bang for the buck.

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September 20, 2011 4:31:07 AM

the 560 is faster than teh 6870 and 6850, has better support in 3d rendering programs such as CS5 and 3dmax, the 3d tech is better and generaly the dual GPU is also better. however ati seems to have finally figured out there cross fire after 15 years of getting stomped. the 5870's beat the 6870's in most bench marks even with there upgraded tessellation hardware.
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September 20, 2011 4:32:26 AM

So get the 560ti?
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September 20, 2011 4:38:14 AM

There's no comparison. The GTX 560Ti is a step above the 6870. Generally price would be the deciding factor. But I've seen GTX 560Ti's for $183 lately. Those can't be beat if they undercut 6950 1GB's by more than $15 or so.

Quick reference: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-performance-...
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September 20, 2011 4:38:57 AM

Hm so should i get the 560ti or the radeon 6950?
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September 20, 2011 4:46:03 AM

the 2GB 6950 is a hairs breath over the 560ti in normal conditions. The 6950 helps when you need more ram than the 560 has, large resolutions, very high end games with maxed filtering settings and high rez textures.
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September 20, 2011 5:15:44 AM

amuffin said:
Hm so should i get the 560ti or the radeon 6950?
How much do you want to spend? Typically, (assuming we include rebates) the prices are as follows: $150 6850, $165 6879, $200 GTX 560Ti, $210 6950 1GB, $250 6950 2GB. If you're into unlocking, you can pay a premium and go for one of the reference 6950 2GB's that people say unlock.

I'd just buy a GTX 560Ti whenever a sale comes up on one. Btw, they say that you shouldn't go below a 6950 for Crossfiring Radeons due to microstuttering...but that depends on how much microstuttering bothers you.
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September 20, 2011 5:24:05 AM

amuffin said:
I currently have enough money to get any one of these cards. Which one would be the best? I generally like nvidia better, but the radeon series seems like a good bang for the buck.


For "good bang for the buck" then Radeon HD 6950 1GB is the card i recommends which has a small performance edge over GTX 560ti and same time consumes lesser power. Both Gtx560ti and Radeon HD 6950 are good powerful cards. You should select the one which is cheaper..... :) 
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September 20, 2011 5:45:42 AM

560 Ti is 5% faster than the 6870 and 8% slower than the 6950 by techpowerup's 16 game benchmarks.



The 6950's lead stretches to 14% at higher resolution.
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September 20, 2011 5:59:49 AM

Correction: 6950 2GB cards pretty much don't unlock anymore. So don't get too excited tryign to do that. Like the benchmark above shows, the 6950 1GB is probably the best bang for your buck.

Newegg has one for $210 AR.
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September 20, 2011 6:02:41 AM

dalauder said:
Correction: 6950 2GB cards pretty much don't unlock anymore. So don't get too excited tryign to do that. Like the benchmark above shows, the 6950 1GB is probably the best bang for your buck.

Newegg has one for $210 AR.

+1 with your budget and situation, the 6950 is the card to get. no need for the 2gb unless you are playing on multiple monitors or resolutions exceeding 1920x1080
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September 20, 2011 6:37:56 AM

So is the extra 10 dollars worth it for the 8% performance differnece? Between the 560ti and the 6950 that is. So they got rid of unlocking to 6970 right?
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September 20, 2011 9:56:18 AM

amuffin said:
So get the 560ti?





i prefer thinking by use cfx compared to if u have to buy 560, u can buy saphire 5850 at price $150 only. and the performance is close if not same with gtx 580 at default speed! 5850: http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1490182
GTX 580: http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1558017 GTX 570: http://3dmark.com/3dm11/1833422 but you must consider this too ! even if gtx 580 is faster (but the gtx580 is overclocked on extreme condition and i belive that the owner can't be that crazy to use that clock on regular use on his computer) but its price 4x than saphire hd 5850 so if you buy 5850 for cfx u really got performance faster than 570 and close to 580! keep in mind that the 5850 is the first card that amd make it realy serious and at good quality both performance and thermal.
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September 20, 2011 10:02:06 AM

NB: I you want to buy single card today keep in mind that icy bridge soon released (intel tick tock) and the new technology of graphic that much faster soon will follow. just wait and be patient for 4 month. for now just buy cheapest abut powerfull hd 5850! :>
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September 20, 2011 10:37:51 AM

amuffin said:
So is the extra 10 dollars worth it for the 8% performance differnece? Between the 560ti and the 6950 that is.


Umm... TEN dollars. Just pay it.

starlabs said:
NB: I you want to buy single card today keep in mind that icy bridge soon released


Lol, IVY Bridge. Icy Bridge... heh... that's kind of a cool name.

OP, the 560 Ti is great, but the 6950 is a bit more powerful for a bit more, so it depends on what you want to spend. I personally have the 560 Ti and don't regret it at all, it's great for 1080p and maxes out almost everything, and I plan to SLI eventually. 6950 vs. 560 Ti is an on-going argument and it looks like 6950 always beats the 560 Ti by a bit (like the 8% on the benchmark above) on resolutions up to 1080p, after which the 6950 is further ahead. However, it looks like the OC'd 560 Ti's easily compare with the 6950. Here's a standard 560 Ti benchmark, where it's always behind the 6950: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/331?vs=330 and here's the MSI 560 Ti 880 MHz Twin Frozr II OC, which is ahead of 6970 2GB (!) http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_560_Twin_Fro... - look at the other pages too, this one is only FC2; the 880 MHz 560 Ti often wins in other pages, as well.

But then again, who knows what happens when you OC the 6950? :D  In the end, I'd say that it depends which version of which card you get, how OC'd it is and how much it costs.
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September 20, 2011 12:02:48 PM

@Starlabs--he's talking about a $200 card and you're talking about the GTX 580. Nobody but you has even mentioned the 5850. The point being, go ahead and make some suggestions, but slow down a bit and read what's ahead of you to make sure that you're helpful. For example, ICY BRIDGE does not exist and IVY BRIDGE is made by Intel, not NVidia or AMD so it probably won't directly affect graphics cards. Besides, Ivy Bridge won't be out until 2012 off of current time charts.

OP...amk-aka-phantom said it well. Either card will do well. The GTX 560Ti is probably more heavy OC capable, based off of what I've heard.

In my experience, Fermi OC's like a beast (25% core, 8% mem) on the GTX 460's and 470's I've tried. My friend's GTX 460 768MB beats a stock GTX 470 after 30 minutes of OC'ing w/ Afterburner (w/ Kombustor & Witcher 2 for stability testing).
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September 20, 2011 3:07:04 PM

dalauder, it's good to know someone has the same opinion... too many people dismiss the 560 Ti due to the 6950 being more powerful (at stock) despite the 560 Ti's lower price. After all, you don't even need to get the pre-OC'd version... get the cheapest available (just make sure it's good - I think the cheapest right now is like $190?) and OC by yourself, if the cooler allows.

Actually, finding the benchmarks I linked above restored my happiness with the purchase (not that it ever let me down) - it's a clear win over the 6950, provided the price difference (especially in my area, lol).

OP, I'd say take the 560 Ti for 1080p and OC it a bit, if it's not pre-OC'd; and even a stock 560 Ti is not that far behind the 6950. And regarding the original question, 560 Ti is better that either 6850 or 6870.
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September 20, 2011 5:04:34 PM

It could also be said that the 6870 is closer to the 560 Ti than the Ti is to the 6950. I'm sure the 6870 is the best "bang for buck" by a long shot.
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September 20, 2011 5:10:04 PM

eyefinity said:
It could also be said that the 6870 is closer to the 560 Ti than the Ti is to the 6950. I'm sure the 6870 is the best "bang for buck" by a long shot.


Lol, no way. 6870 is $170-190 (and some even go for as high as $220, believe it or not) and the 560 Ti blows it away in all benchmarks, OC'd or not. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/290?vs=330
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September 20, 2011 5:42:23 PM

From what I can tell

6870 - $149.99 + free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
560 Ti - $197.55 after shipping + free Batman game http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
6950 - $220.98 after shipping + free Dirt 3 game http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
6950 - $209.99 + free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So clearly the 6870 is the best "bang for buck" as it's far cheaper than the 5% performance difference between it and the 560 Ti. You'd only buy the 560 Ti or the 6950 if you really wanted either Batman or Dirt 3.

At almost $50 cheaper the 6870 is 25% less expensive and 5% slower so it is clearly the best value of any of the cards.
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September 20, 2011 5:59:55 PM

ncc74656 said:
the 560 is faster than teh 6870 and 6850, has better support in 3d rendering programs such as CS5 and 3dmax, the 3d tech is better and generaly the dual GPU is also better. however ati seems to have finally figured out there cross fire after 15 years of getting stomped. the 5870's beat the 6870's in most bench marks even with there upgraded tessellation hardware.


Crossfire and SLi have not been available for 15 years. :heink:  More like 6 1/2 to 7 IIRC.
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September 20, 2011 6:28:18 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Crossfire and SLi have not been available for 15 years. :heink:  More like 6 1/2 to 7 IIRC.



ati still use crossfire and nvidia still use SLI, to debate this is getting into semantics. they have both gone through many versions and changes. up through 2008 nvidia cards running in parallel were consistently beating out dual ati cards of comparable single GPU speeds. hell ati even caused some programs to loose performance when enabling crossfire. it has only been recently that ati has had performance increases across the board and holding even or beating out the nvidia equivalent cards performance.
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September 20, 2011 6:43:12 PM

eyefinity said:
From what I can tell

6870 - $149.99 + free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
560 Ti - $197.55 after shipping + free Batman game http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
6950 - $220.98 after shipping + free Dirt 3 game http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
6950 - $209.99 + free shipping http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So clearly the 6870 is the best "bang for buck" as it's far cheaper than the 5% performance difference between it and the 560 Ti. You'd only buy the 560 Ti or the 6950 if you really wanted either Batman or Dirt 3.

At almost $50 cheaper the 6870 is 25% less expensive and 5% slower so it is clearly the best value of any of the cards.


Greaaat... so you took the cheapest cards; $48 is 50% to you instead of 33% and you again disregarded OC potential of 560 Ti. No, I'd buy a 560 Ti or a 6950 over the 6870 any day... screw Batman and Dirt 3, I don't like either :p 
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September 20, 2011 6:46:36 PM

ncc74656 said:
ati still use crossfire and nvidia still use SLI, to debate this is getting into semantics. they have both gone through many versions and changes. up through 2008 nvidia cards running in parallel were consistently beating out dual ati cards of comparable single GPU speeds. hell ati even caused some programs to loose performance when enabling crossfire. it has only been recently that ati has had performance increases across the board and holding even or beating out the nvidia equivalent cards performance.

What do you mean semantics? You're blatantly wrong about SLi and Crossfire having been around for fifteen years and that's a fact.
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September 20, 2011 6:49:34 PM

ncc74656 said:
ati still use crossfire and nvidia still use SLI, to debate this is getting into semantics. they have both gone through many versions and changes. up through 2008 nvidia cards running in parallel were consistently beating out dual ati cards of comparable single GPU speeds. hell ati even caused some programs to loose performance when enabling crossfire. it has only been recently that ati has had performance increases across the board and holding even or beating out the nvidia equivalent cards performance.


Oh, so doubling the actual date CF/SLI have been out is "semantics" to you... okay, fine. But who the hell cares what was before? That was then, this is now. Now is the fact that AMD cards often beat nVidia for the same price and less power consumption. Lol, you remind me of this guy on Tom's who keeps saying that Macs are great because they used to have better hardware than Wintel (can't remember such a time, though) - you both are stuck in the past.

And for Emperor's sake, it's lose, not loose. I'm sick of seeing that mistake all over the place. To lose is a verb; loose is an adjective and means "not fixed, shaky". I'm so glad English isn't my mother tongue and my English teacher hammered the most common mistakes (lose-loose, affect-effect) into my head... sorry for the rant, but spellcheckers and common sense are available world-wide nowadays.
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September 20, 2011 6:54:34 PM

amk-aka-Phantom said:
Oh, so doubling the actual date CF/SLI have been out is "semantics" to you... okay, fine. But who the hell cares what was before? That was then, this is now. Now is the fact that AMD cards often beat nVidia for the same price and less power consumption. Lol, you remind me of this guy on Tom's who keeps saying that Macs are great because they used to have better hardware than Wintel (can't remember such a time, though) - you both are stuck in the past.

And for Emperor's sake, it's lose, not loose. I'm sick of seeing that mistake all over the place. To lose is a verb; loose is an adjective and means "not fixed, shaky". I'm so glad English isn't my mother tongue and my English teacher hammered the most common mistakes (lose-loose, affect-effect) into my head... sorry for the rant, but spellcheckers and common sense are available world-wide nowadays.

So are calenders! [:mousemonkey]
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September 20, 2011 6:59:52 PM

In the spirit of getting this thread back on track, OP asked which is the better card. That would be the 560ti. Happy gaming
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September 20, 2011 7:05:22 PM

Mousemonkey said:
So are calenders! [:mousemonkey]


Sorry for being the Grammar Nazi again, but... it's actually calendars :whistle:  And yes, you have a point.

FlintIronStagg said:
In the spirit of getting this thread back on track, OP asked which is the better card. That would be the 560ti. Happy gaming


We've figured that out already.
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September 20, 2011 7:11:26 PM

amk-aka-Phantom said:
Greaaat... so you took the cheapest cards; $48 is 50% to you instead of 33% and you again disregarded OC potential of 560 Ti. No, I'd buy a 560 Ti or a 6950 over the 6870 any day... screw Batman and Dirt 3, I don't like either :p 


Yes you do understand what "bang for buck" means right?

Also, most 6950's overclock by 15%+ without touching voltages (They are just 6970's without some shaders after all). Most 560 Ti's only do the same 15%.

http://techgage.com/article/amd_hd_6950_1gb_vs_nvidia_g... shows how far ahead an OC'd 6950 is vs an OC'd 560 Ti.
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September 20, 2011 7:14:03 PM

amk-aka-Phantom said:
Sorry for being the Grammar Nazi again, but... it's actually calendars :whistle: 

I've got the flu at the moment so sue me! But if you like I could always pull up some your past mistakes, like this one for instance :-
amk-aka-Phantom said:
I don't know what temps are safe for AMD, but for nVidia max temps are 100C, so my GTX 560 Ti's max 72C don't trouble me. I advise against Crossire: you have a great card and it should max out pretty much everything for now... so unless you have some games you're desperately trying to max out and it doesn't work, wait for a while. I know I won't be getting a second GTX 560 Ti for quite a while, since all the games I play are mostly console ports and I can't see a difference between Ultra and High detail, except for the drop in fps for Ultra (though even then, it's still smooth).

Where's the f and why the colon?
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September 20, 2011 7:16:56 PM

its good to keep in mind this is a forum on the Internet, not a collage dissertation paper. when broken speech, lack of grammar, or spelling mistakes interferes with the message attempting to be conveyed then i will concur with your assessment of the English language. in the context of this forum and the posts in this thread i do not believe we have reached that point.

as for multi gpu techs, both nvidia and ati hit main stream in 05 and 06 however they along iwth 3dfx had dual gpu system back in 1996, 1999 and 2000. so yes my 15 years is 1-6 years off.
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September 20, 2011 7:20:17 PM

aside from raw gpu power you need to consider compatibility with the programs you want to use. if you are going to be doing any 3d modeling or rendering then i would go nvidia as there cuda is better supported compared to ati stream tech. also Nvidia has better 3d tech but if you dont care about that then spending another 20 or 30 bucks to get 30% boost in fps thats a no brainier. people spend 100.00 to gain a 3% boost in there computers...
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September 20, 2011 7:22:55 PM

ncc74656 said:
its good to keep in mind this is a forum on the Internet, not a collage dissertation paper. when broken speech, lack of grammar, or spelling mistakes interferes with the message attempting to be conveyed then i will concur with your assessment of the English language. in the context of this forum and the posts in this thread i do not believe we have reached that point.

as for multi gpu techs, both nvidia and ati hit main stream in 05 and 06 however they along iwth 3dfx had dual gpu system back in 1996, 1999 and 2000. so yes my 15 years is 1-6 years off.

Not quite, 3DFX were bought by Nvidia who prior to that didn't have a dual GPU solution IIRC.
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September 20, 2011 7:25:03 PM

the 6870 is cheaper than the 560ti and about equal to its performance in DX11 however in DX10 the 560 is a fair amount faster than the 6870. make your choice
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September 20, 2011 7:49:14 PM

Mousemonkey said:
I've got the flu at the moment so sue me! But if you like I could always pull up some your past mistakes, like this one for instance :-
Where's the f and why the colon?


WHAT! You actually dug up my past posts and found a typo? :D  Lol, 1:1.

ncc74656 said:
aside from raw gpu power you need to consider compatibility with the programs you want to use. if you are going to be doing any 3d modeling or rendering then i would go nvidia as there cuda is better supported compared to ati stream tech. also Nvidia has better 3d tech but if you dont care about that then spending another 20 or 30 bucks to get 30% boost in fps thats a no brainier. people spend 100.00 to gain a 3% boost in there computers...


If you're doing what you said, you're better off with a FirePro or a Quadro. 560 Ti, 6950, 6870 and 6850 are GAMING cards. And ATI Stream stuff is recent, that's why there're less applications that support it, but there will be more.

eyefinity said:
Yes you do understand what "bang for buck" means right?

Also, most 6950's overclock by 15%+ without touching voltages (They are just 6970's without some shaders after all). Most 560 Ti's only do the same 15%.

http://techgage.com/article/amd_hd_6950_1gb_vs_nvidia_g... shows how far ahead an OC'd 6950 is vs an OC'd 560 Ti.


I call BS on this benchmark. My 560 Ti averages 35 fps, kind of in accordance to what the benchmark says:



However, the benchmark does NOT say what kind of OC'd 560 Ti or 6950 it is - it just says they TRIED to OC the 560 Ti to 1000 MHz and OC'd the 6950 to 950, explicitly stating that their 560 Ti sample was worse than expected and the 6950 was better. And TechPowerUp's benchmark shows OC'd 560 Ti ahead of 6970 at times. Whom to trust? :D  The way I see it, 560 Ti wins in some games and is on par with 6950 or 6870 in others - depends whether the game favors nVidia or AMD.
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September 20, 2011 8:02:58 PM

I would like to get the msi twin frozr 560ti and I was wondering if this oced would be better than the 6950. I have seen this card go to 1ghz easily and later on, I would like to get this card in sli. But what about the 6950? Crossfire on 6950 or sli on 560ti?
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September 20, 2011 8:11:33 PM

Check the benchmarks of the specific games you want to play, or other applications you will run. For example, a "mere" GTX460 beats the HD6950 in Civilization V, but a HD6790 outperforms a GTX560Ti at bitcoin mining. Do you care about PhysX? That means nVidia. Three-monitor support? ATi. Consider the general case of course, but don't forget YOUR specifics.
And then, make sure your PSU can handle whatever you decide to get.
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September 20, 2011 8:13:13 PM

amk-aka-Phantom said:
I call BS on this benchmark. My 560 Ti averages 35 fps, kind of in accordance to what the benchmark says:


You know different setups and test conditions can give different results. The most important thing is the comparison and in that one the 6950 is streets ahead, almost 40% faster.

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However, the benchmark does NOT say what kind of OC'd 560 Ti or 6950 it is - it just says they TRIED to OC the 560 Ti to 1000 MHz and OC'd the 6950 to 950, explicitly stating that their 560 Ti sample was worse than expected and the 6950 was better. And TechPowerUp's benchmark shows OC'd 560 Ti ahead of 6970 at times. Whom to trust? :D  The way I see it, 560 Ti wins in some games and is on par with 6950 or 6870 in others - depends whether the game favors nVidia or AMD.


Actually it's more like the 6950 wins all of them except those games that heavily favour Nvidia, ie HAWX 2, Dirt 2 and Lost Planet.

Nvidia have gone on record to say that the average 560 Ti overclock is 900 Mhz. http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/nvidia-geforce-gtx-560-ti...

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Nvidia confirms that core clocks around 900 MHz are fairly typical from what it has seen so far.


Now sure the more expensive cards with better VRM's and cooling will clock higher, but the average reference card will not go much further than 900 Mhz, which incidentally is less than 10%.
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September 20, 2011 8:18:30 PM

amuffin said:
I would like to get the msi twin frozr 560ti and I was wondering if this oced would be better than the 6950. I have seen this card go to 1ghz easily and later on, I would like to get this card in sli. But what about the 6950? Crossfire on 6950 or sli on 560ti?


6870 crossfire is basically the same as 560 Ti sli over a large selection of 15 games.





6950 crossfire is equal to 570 sli.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/crossfire-sli-3-way...

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Superior scaling allowed two mid-priced Radeon HD 6950s to approximate the performance of two higher-cost GeForce GTX 570s, while three HD 6950s took the performance win over three GTX 570s.


560 Ti is a bit slower single-card and a lot slower in sli compared to the 6950.
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September 20, 2011 8:34:21 PM

And also 560 Ti wins in FC2, Civilization V and basically half of the games there :D 
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September 20, 2011 9:10:39 PM

its worth noting some differences in drivers between the two companies as well. last i checked nvidia did not have any integrated over clocking tools while ati does make an attempt at such a feature.

in my experience ati's CCC crashes more frequently than nvidia's nview. thats not to say it happens alot but just more frequently.

my main issue with nvidia is in its drivers vs any hardware issues. i believe it was in November of 09 that they launched a new driver which changed how they handle over-scan on large screens. prior to this launch it functioned the same way as ati's in that you could move sliders to change the direct scale with out changing the resolution however with there new drivers it forces a direct resolution change vs a scaling. i.e. a 1920X1080 display which goes slightly past the edge of the physical display; once resized will have a resolution of 1872X1061 or some other odd number. this caused me many issues in games and movies while full screen and in the end forced me to buy the 5870's that i use in my computer today. i am not certain if nvidia has changed this but such things are wise to take into consideration when selecting your components.

I have used a 46" samsung since 2007, i have not encountered such over scan issues on any computer monitors; only on TV's. also only through HDMI, DVI and VGA connections to large TV's have never had any over scan issues for me.
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September 20, 2011 9:16:23 PM

ncc74656 said:
its worth noting some differences in drivers between the two companies as well. last i checked nvidia did not have any integrated over clocking tools while ati does make an attempt at such a feature.

If you mean CCC then that is not part of the driver but then neither is Nvidia System Tools but they can both be used to OC their respective GPU's.
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September 20, 2011 9:27:56 PM

both CCC and nview are used in part with there drivers and there packages. while yes you can install just the drivers and still use the cards you loose many features by not installing each companies respective control centers. i would submit that the vast majority of computer users will have such control centers installed and thus it is worth comparing the two to select the best manufacturer for your particular application.

The last time i used a nvidia system tool i do not recall seeing a OC feature but i am glad they have now added it. is it like ati's or more robust?
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September 20, 2011 9:41:12 PM

ncc74656 said:
both CCC and nview are used in part with there drivers and there packages. while yes you can install just the drivers and still use the cards you loose many features by not installing each companies respective control centers. i would submit that the vast majority of computer users will have such control centers installed and thus it is worth comparing the two to select the best manufacturer for your particular application.

The last time i used a nvidia system tool i do not recall seeing a OC feature but i am glad they have now added it. is it like ati's or more robust?

I don't know, like most people who use Nvidia cards I've always used third party software to OC. ;)  Oh and Nview is for Quadro cards.
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September 20, 2011 9:50:33 PM

They both are good cards.

If you have a desire for 3D, go for the Nvidia card.

If you want to use 3 monitors off one GPU, go AMD.

As far as unlocking the shaders on 6950's go, I have seen a few recent successes with HIS 6950 IceQ Turbos. You'll want to use the bios edit version, not the 6970 flash.
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September 20, 2011 9:51:36 PM

Mousemonkey said:
I don't know, like most people who use Nvidia cards I've always used third party software to OC. ;)  Oh and Nview is for Quadro cards.


All the people I know use MSI Afterburner :) 
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September 20, 2011 9:53:06 PM

i use msi afterburner, evga precision, ati tray tools, and power strip (i think thats what its called). depending on card and os. all are great tools
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September 20, 2011 9:56:29 PM

ncc74656 said:
i use msi afterburner, evga precision, ati tray tools, and power strip (i think thats what its called). depending on card and os. all are great tools


Lol, that's a lot of tools. Funny thing is, the only thing I've used the Afterburner for so far was fan control... no need to OC - the 560 Ti can max out anything at 1080p, it's even sad... what's the point of higher cards? :) 
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September 20, 2011 9:59:20 PM

well if your going to use 3D or an eyefinity style display then a higher card may be needed but your right that for a normal computer higher cards are not required for even a high end gamer. ive been running my 5870's for awhile and i have yet to find anything i can not totally max out and still get perfect game play. i do not run them in crossfire as i run many monitors but if i ever do find a game i cant run ive got the option.
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