New Gaming Build, what do you think?

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Wantabettercomp

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Hi, I want this computer to be able to play most games on max settings smoothly.
I also want it to be very very upgradable, and I've maxed out my budget on this. $1900- $300(sold laptop) $1600.
I will be using the SSD as the Boot drive. Any ideas of equally priced but better components on any of these?


Also what's the difference between these two:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233144
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428

Which is better? it seems like the second one is better to me because of the low Cas.

Any suggestions, critiques, or knowledge somebody wants to throw down?

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Final Computer Build "Ol'noname
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CPU:
$214.99 Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

Motherboard:
$174.99 ASRock Z68 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128512

Harddrive:
$159.99 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185
$3.99 Rosewill 18" Serial ATA Black Flat Cable w/ Locking Latch Support 6 Gbps, 3 Gbps, and 1.5 Gbps transfer rate Model RC-18"-SA2-BK
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812119230

SSD:
$209.99 Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=16hj5itznrck4

Video Card:
$369.99 MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr III PE/OC GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127582&Tpk=msi%20gtx%20570&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=4176827&SID=1v9c16t5zht1q

Memory:
$44.99 G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428

Case:
$99.99 Rosewill BLACKHAWK Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case, come with Five Fans, window side panel, top HDD dock
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107

Extra Fan:
($9.99x2=19.98) COOLER MASTER R4-L4S-10AB-GP 140mm Blue LED Case Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103077
$12.99 Scythe SY1212SL12L 120mm Case Fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185137

Optical Drive:
$20.99 LG CD/DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238

Heat Sink:
33.99 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

Power Supply:
89.99 Thermaltake TR2 RX 750W Bronze W0382RU ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153136
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Total:1481.85
W726(max OC)
W565(Stock)
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Display:
$179.99 ASUS VH236H Black 23" 2ms Full HD Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ Speakers 300 cd/m2 20000 :1 (ASCR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236059

Wall Mount:
$134.99 atdec SD-AT-DW-BK Spacedec Acrobat Articulated Wall Arm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824998211

Keyboard:
$39.99 Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109148

Mouse:
$59.99 Logitech G500 10 Buttons Dual-mode
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104318

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Total:414.96
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Total:1898.81
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-300 (Sold Laptop)
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Total:
1598.81
 
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A Thermaltake TR2 RX 750 was poorly reviewed at Hardwaresecrets
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/902
It does not have the same model number as the one on newegg, but apparently they are both built by HEC and all other specs seem very similar to me, so I think they probably are the same. In which case you shouldn't get it if you can avoid it.

XFX Pro 750W Core Edition 80Plus Bronze $95 ($30 rebate)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59617&vpn=P1750SNLB9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1190

This looks like a good combo to me:
Intel i5-2500K & Asus P8Z68-V (225 + 170 = 395)
Combo price $375
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.763035

They also have the motherboard you picked in a combo with the i5-2500K ($380)...

r0aringdrag0n

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The Ripjaws is cheaper and basically the same as the Vengeance, in fact it is exactly the same (spec wise). I would also not recommend you buy to a SSD because it really doesn't boost the performance of games, it will only boost your boot time by a few seconds. With that money you can add about $100 more and buy another gtx 570 and SLI it for a Kicka** gaming system.
 

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cas is the same on both so its whatever brand you like. as far as ssd goes its a good idea unlike what the other guy said. load times are night and day on games vs regular hard drive. you need to install the games on it as well though obviously. in battlefield 3 i get to snag the tanks before some people are even done loading so i would say it helps gaming performance.
as for the cpu heatsink i have the hyper 212 evo and the fan is junk i would get the cheaper ram and get a good noctua cooler.
coolermaster fan is loud and buzzy noctua makes really good fans.
 

Wantabettercomp

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I think I want to keep the SSD and I've thought about it and I think the Noctua coolers are too expensive for my needs. I can deal with a noisy computer with noise cancelling headphones. Thanks for the advice though. Gave me something to ponder about.
 
A Thermaltake TR2 RX 750 was poorly reviewed at Hardwaresecrets
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/902
It does not have the same model number as the one on newegg, but apparently they are both built by HEC and all other specs seem very similar to me, so I think they probably are the same. In which case you shouldn't get it if you can avoid it.

XFX Pro 750W Core Edition 80Plus Bronze $95 ($30 rebate)
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59617&vpn=P1750SNLB9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1190

This looks like a good combo to me:
Intel i5-2500K & Asus P8Z68-V (225 + 170 = 395)
Combo price $375
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.763035

They also have the motherboard you picked in a combo with the i5-2500K ($380):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.763037

If you do want a quieter heatsink then you don't necessarily have to spend more:
Xigmatek Gaia SD1283 $30 ($10 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233082

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-cooler-heatsink-roundup,2788-9.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/lga-1156-heatsink,2535-14.html
These are the results page from two heatsink roundups. They used the same testing equipment and methodology in both so the results should be comparable. It shows the Gaia being within a few degrees of the Hyper 212 Plus yet its fan only spins at 1500RPM at full speed.

There is also the Xigmatek Dark Knight-S1283V REV.W $35 ($15 rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233029
Which as far as I can tell is the same as the Gaia but with nickel plated heatpipes and a faster fan. So with the faster fan I would assume that it would get better temps than the Gaia.
 
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