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December 25, 2012 9:04:06 PM

I have an antec aria case (http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Cases/Micro+A...) which I would like to keep but am looking to replace my very old mobo.

The case only fits micro atx. I have no budget for separate graphics cards either, even if they could fit and I am not a gamer. I would however like as powerful computer as possible as I do some scientific computing at home.

What would people recommend? Does http://uk.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4... make sense and what about the CPU options?
a c 154 V Motherboard
December 25, 2012 9:33:25 PM

Are you looking to upgrade your CPU and ram also, if not, what CPU do you currently have. If yes, what CPU are you looking to purchase?
December 26, 2012 6:52:36 AM

Yes absolutely I would like to replace both. I don't have fixed ideas on AMD versus Intel but I suppose would just like the max processing power for my money. My budget can stretch to a few hundred pounds for the mobo/cpu and RAM combination.
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a c 154 V Motherboard
December 26, 2012 12:45:16 PM

I'll come up with an AMD option in a bit (a little harder for your needs) but this is the most powerful options I could throw together within a reasonable price (IMO)
CPU: Intel i7 3770 at AriaPC for 215.50
MOBO: MSI H77MA-G43 at Scan.co.uk for 56.12
RAM: 8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz at AmazonUK 40.50
Total: 312.12
The problem I'm having for the AMD build is the i7 3770 just outclasses everything AMD has to offer, I feel as though I'm compromising and not getting the value I'm looking for... I'll get something to propose though
December 26, 2012 6:16:59 PM

C12Friedman said:
I'll come up with an AMD option in a bit (a little harder for your needs) but this is the most powerful options I could throw together within a reasonable price (IMO)
CPU: Intel i7 3770 at AriaPC for 215.50
MOBO: MSI H77MA-G43 at Scan.co.uk for 56.12
RAM: 8GB Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz at AmazonUK 40.50
Total: 312.12
The problem I'm having for the AMD build is the i7 3770 just outclasses everything AMD has to offer, I feel as though I'm compromising and not getting the value I'm looking for... I'll get something to propose though



Thanks! This might be obvious but will it be ok with the 300W power supply or would it need more?

a c 154 V Motherboard
December 26, 2012 6:43:44 PM

^ A valid question but I'm taking all that into consideration to try and ensure you don't have to get anything other than the ram/mobo/CPU. If there is any variation, such as additional power needs, I'll include that info
Which brings me to another possible issue I hadn't previously considered... are your current drives (hard and optical) IDE or SATA?
December 26, 2012 7:32:26 PM

C12Friedman said:
^ A valid question but I'm taking all that into consideration to try and ensure you don't have to get anything other than the ram/mobo/CPU. If there is any variation, such as additional power needs, I'll include that info
Which brings me to another possible issue I hadn't previously considered... are your current drives (hard and optical) IDE or SATA?


I am embarrassed to say I can't remember. The DVD drive is this one http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Specific.aspx?A... and I think it is IDE.

For the hard drive hdparm -I /dev/sda gives me

/dev/sda:

ATA device, with non-removable media
Model Number: SAMSUNG SP2004C
Serial Number: S07GJ10Y513741
Firmware Revision: VM100-33
Standards:
Used: ATA/ATAPI-7 T13 1532D revision 4a
Supported: 7 6 5 4
[...]
a c 154 V Motherboard
December 26, 2012 7:43:15 PM

Okay, that would be IDE which is being phased out as an interface, in fact if wanting to keep your IDE hardware, AMD may prove to be easier. It'll take a little more time to get that into the works...
As a side note, a SATA DVD/CD burner costs very little, HDD's aren't too outrageously expensive either
December 27, 2012 6:54:47 AM

C12Friedman said:
Okay, that would be IDE which is being phased out as an interface, in fact if wanting to keep your IDE hardware, AMD may prove to be easier. It'll take a little more time to get that into the works...
As a side note, a SATA DVD/CD burner costs very little, HDD's aren't too outrageously expensive either



I think I may just have to swallow upgrading those too. This does however make my budget for the mobo/cpu/memory a little tighter I suppose.
a c 154 V Motherboard
December 27, 2012 7:26:48 AM

One more thing you may not have taken into account... an Operating System. Except for the full retail version, the OS (if Microsoft) is tied to the motherboard, so upgrading the motherboard also requires a new license (new OS). Linux is of course free...
December 27, 2012 7:40:57 AM

C12Friedman said:
One more thing you may not have taken into account... an Operating System. Except for the full retail version, the OS (if Microsoft) is tied to the motherboard, so upgrading the motherboard also requires a new license (new OS). Linux is of course free...


Thanks again. I am a linux person so that should be OK.


I see the AMD is 8-core (!) but the motherboard doesn't have a great graphics card. That's probably the right compromise for me. I may just go for this combination. I assume I don't have to buy a separate CPU heat sink or fan?

a c 154 V Motherboard
December 27, 2012 8:34:49 AM

The HSF is included with the CPU but some Piledriver CPU's have been reported to run 'hot' - you may want to monitor your temperatures during the first week or so just to be sure all is well.
December 27, 2012 1:32:42 PM

C12Friedman said:
The HSF is included with the CPU but some Piledriver CPU's have been reported to run 'hot' - you may want to monitor your temperatures during the first week or so just to be sure all is well.



Purchased. Thanks for your help!
May 13, 2013 11:11:51 AM

C12Friedman said:
The HSF is included with the CPU but some Piledriver CPU's have been reported to run 'hot' - you may want to monitor your temperatures during the first week or so just to be sure all is well.


My setup worked well but just died. When I start the computer, although the fan starts up I don't get anything on the monitor at all and I don't think the hard drive starts up for example. I asked online and someone mentioned the cpu is not on the supported list at http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/880GM-LE%20FX/?cat=CPU . Do you think that could have made it fail after so many months?
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