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November 18, 2011 3:50:39 PM

Hello, long time lurker first time poster here.

I'm looking for a SUPER budget build, I'm going to list the components I have first, then ask for help there after.

I will primarily be browsing the internet, skyping and playing games. I play WoW/Skyrim/MW3/BF3/D3. I'd like to run these at ultra if I can.



Approximate Purchase Date: This week

Budget Range: $300-$500 MAX.

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Hardcore gaming(WoW/MW3/Skyrim/D3), browsing, skype, streaming

Parts Not Required: GPU, Harddrive, W7, Case, MAYBE PSU (See below)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, microcenter, any and all really.

Country:
USA

Parts Preferences: No preference, best performance for money

Overclocking:
Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

Monitor Resolution: 1366x768 OR 1900x1200

Additional Comments: Sound card is making fuzzy noises in my current pc, I think it's time to re-build!
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CURRENT SPECS:

MB: Foxcom MoBo (From 2006, only sataII ports.)
GPU: (Nvidia 550TI) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU: (AMD Phenom II x3 720 BE) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU: (Sigma 535w) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Ram: 3g Raptor Black Ram DDR2
OS: W7 32 bit
HDD: IDE 250g Hitachi
CASE: Antec 700


I can currently run most of those games on medium/some high except BF3 is on medium. My 32bit and IDE loads insanely slow, I lag sometimes and my sound card is going out I think. So it's time.

I plan on upgrading to 64 bit, if I can use my same keys and upgrading my drive to a sata 3gb 7200 rpm.

Thank you so much I really am in a bind about this. There are so many deals going on at Microcenter and Newegg, especially these deals: http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/AMDbundl...
Are the above boards (Micro/atx) bad for gaming? If not then I can get one of these bundles..


Thank you for your help
November 18, 2011 6:18:31 PM

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November 18, 2011 6:21:24 PM

For those games you cpu should be fine. You really should upgrade the weak gpu first and go from there. So you may have to upgrade the psu as well.
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November 18, 2011 6:28:22 PM

The GPU is that weak? I was told it was a decent card... : /
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November 18, 2011 6:41:20 PM

Yeah for modern games at 1080p it is a weaker card. It seems the starting point these days are 6870/560's.
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November 18, 2011 6:44:40 PM

Ah, okay. I don't really play at 1080p, more at 720p. It was the most recent thing I upgraded, but if it will be the biggest thing to upgrade I will do that.

I figured my HD, w7 and MB/CPU would be bigger, especially since I'm running on 3g DDR2
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November 18, 2011 6:49:16 PM

Parkwaydrive said:
Ah, okay. I don't really play at 1080p, more at 720p. It was the most recent thing I upgraded, but if it will be the biggest thing to upgrade I will do that.

I figured my HD, w7 and MB/CPU would be bigger, especially since I'm running on 3g DDR2


With around 500 dollars you can build a system to run these games even @ high and 1080p but the big problem is the hdd prices....if you can sell some of your old parts and with that money get a 500gb hdd ??
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November 18, 2011 6:49:43 PM

It would have been, 2 years ago
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November 18, 2011 6:59:04 PM

I have an HDD already, I have about 100 of them (Parents used to work for HP, so I kinda inherited them...) That's not the issue, I have several WD 500g+ Caviar blue/black 7200rpm 3g+, some sata II and some sata III.


"With around 500 dollars you can build a system to run these games even @ high and 1080p"

I'm interested, very interested. I have some parts that may be able to be re-used as well? At very least my case.. Could you elaborate on this? I try to price things out and set it up but I don't know the difference between AMD and Intel other than the brand...
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November 18, 2011 7:03:08 PM

Parkwaydrive said:

I'm interested, very interested. I have some parts that may be able to be re-used as well? At very least my case.. Could you elaborate on this? I try to price things out and set it up but I don't know the difference between AMD and Intel other than the brand...


That's great!! I will post the solution in a moment ;)  I will only use your old case from your old system!
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November 18, 2011 7:04:28 PM

I'm excited! Even though I shouldn't spend $500, I don't mind eating ramen for a while if it means I'll have a phresh new system!
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November 18, 2011 7:06:20 PM

I do wanna add that I play on a 36' TV, in HD and it runs normally at 1366x768 native. I play WoW at 1900x1200, for whatever reason no other game will run at that resolution, it just doesn't look right. I'm not sure if that is due to the HDMI cable or what, but just wanted to make that point.
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November 18, 2011 7:14:57 PM

Starting with a CPU - PSU combo. Quad Core CPU @ 3.4 GHz with Unlocked multiplier (mine went up to 4.2 with water cooling, but I did It to run some benchmarks. A stable O/C is around 3.7 - 4.0 GHz with a good heatsink) along with a good quality 80+ PSU from Corsair.

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX

bundled with

CORSAIR Builder Series CX600 V2 600W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

A great value AM3+ motherboard...Native USB & Sata & eSata III, support for 8X / 8X Crossfire, all solid caps and support for up to 140W TDP CPUs including AMD FX CPUs and why not maybe the next generation Pilledriver :) 

ASRock 870 Extreme3 R2.0 AM3+ AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

An 8GB kit of high speed RAM

Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For me, the best GPU price / perfomance speaking. AMD Radeon HD 6870

XFX HD-687A-ZDFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And to finish your build use your old case (be sure to clean it and remove dust) and a regular HDD (ideally a Caviar Black).


SUM 492$ WITHOUT MIR (30$)
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November 18, 2011 7:20:10 PM

$10 off w/ promo code EMCJJJC23, ends 11/22 OCZ Fatal1ty 550W Modular Gaming Power Supply compatible with Intel Sandybridge Core i3 i5 i7 and AMD Phenom ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V
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Now: $69.99
$44.99 with Rebate
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SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
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+ Free Gift: AMD Gift - Dirt3 Game Coupon (value:$49.99)
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SAPPHIRE 100314-3L Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

$179.99
$159.99 after mail-in rebate card Free Shipping
$10 off with promo code USSAP948, ends 11/30
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Seagate Barracuda ST250DM000 250GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

$89.99 $6.29 Shipping
TOTAL: $301.23 for the 6870 and if you get the rebates.
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November 18, 2011 7:21:46 PM

Michx build has the CPU and MB and is a pretty good deal.
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November 18, 2011 7:27:26 PM

Best answer selected by Parkwaydrive.
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November 18, 2011 7:28:51 PM

Parkwaydrive said:
Thank you so much! I really like the way that looks!

What about these MB's?
http://www.microcenter.com/specials/promotions/AMDbundl...

They are 'micro', but are they bad?


Nothing can compare to Asrock 870 Extreme 3..... It offers everything in a great price. mATX are bad for multi-GPU set up (I understand that you won't Crossfire now but it's great to have the option )
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November 18, 2011 7:40:15 PM

Thank you so much for help everyone.

I will look into that build Michxymi, hopefully that processor will be a big upgrade!

I was hoping those micro boards where usable as that's a great deal!
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November 18, 2011 7:41:18 PM

Parkwaydrive said:
Thank you so much for help everyone.

I will look into that build Michxymi, hopefully that processor will be a big upgrade!

I was hoping those micro boards where usable as that's a great deal!


Your case supports only mATX?
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November 18, 2011 7:49:43 PM

No, I don't think so. It's a 900, sorry. http://www.macconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.ht...

I didn't know if those micro boards where good or bad, they seem fine to me. I don't plan on running dual GPU's ever, or over clocking. If those boards aren't bad for gaming, then I'd run with that special (x4 970 maybe?) and save myself some cash to put towards the GPU.
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