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November 19, 2011 4:09:06 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: November or December

Budget Range: 1000-1700

System Usage from Most to Least Important: gaming, surfing the net, movies

Parts Not Required: mouse, OS(I'm a student so I can get cheap)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg and amazon

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: I would prefer Intel and a 23.6" LED LCD 2ms response, and a full tower case

Overclocking: most likely

SLI or Crossfire: most likely

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 or 1920x1200

Additional Comments: I would like to have a great cooling potential, but it would be nice for it to be somewhat quiet as well

case: Antec Dark Fleet DF-85 Gaming Case
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003JH7MIO/ref=ox_sc_a...

memory: Kingston Technology Hyper X 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 DIMM (Kit of 2) XMP T1 Series KHX1600C9D3T1K2/8GX
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004K32QEG/ref=ox_sc_a...

processor: Intel Core i5-2500K Processor
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EBUXHQ/ref=ox_sc_a...

monitor: ASUS VS247H-P 23.6-Inch LCD Monitor - Black
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005BZNDS0/ref=ox_sc_a...

memory cooling: Kingston Cooling Fan for HyperX PC Memory KHX-FAN
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002DUKPN2/ref=ox_sc_a...

Power supply: Corsair Professional Series Gold 850-Watt 80 Plus Gold Certified High-Performance Power Supply - CMPSU-850AX
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003PJ6QW4/ref=ox_sc_a...

CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler (RR-212E-20PK-R1)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005O65JXI/ref=ox_sc_a...

Graphics card: EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti Superclocked 1024MB GDDR5 PCI-Express 2.0 Graphics Card - Lifetime Warranty 01G-P3-1563-AR
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004KZHRAM/ref=ox_sc_a...

Motherboard: ASRock MB-Z68X4G3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005FE52X6/ref=ox_sc_a...

Hard drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop Hard Drive Bulk/OEM - WD1002FAEX
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036Q7MV0/ref=ox_sc_a...

Along with the list I have a few questions.

1. memory, will I be able to buy 2 dual kits and effectively run 16gb of ram? Also, is the ram I picked a bit tall? will it interfere with the 212evo?
if so would http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... be better? I also notice this kit runs 1.65v but a different kit runs 1.5v, is there a big difference? and finally, can i OC these or is 1600 the highest? if i need to buy 2133 ram to OC then i will stick with 1600

2. Any advantages to buying a 2600k over the 2500k? besides the .1gh

3. Will a memory cooler fit with the 212 evo?

4. is this psu better? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5. Is there any better air cooler that isn't to much more expensive? if you recommend the 212 evo then what 2nd fan should I add to get a push pull setup?

6. 560ti or 570? I plan to run one graphics card for the moment, then later upgrade to a 580 and possibly sli it, or should i just get a 580 now?

7. I have heard bad things about ASrock customer support, any other brand recommended? potentially matching the case?

8. With hdd prices going up with the flooding, I have a external 250gb to use as an internal for the moment, do you think it will last? I dont really want to pay $187 on one hdd when I could buy 2 for cheaper before the flooding

9. one last thing, sorry everyone, should I worry about replacing the case fans? if so, any recommendations? what about the optional side fan? will i have clearance issues?

A HUGE THANKS IN ADVANCE. I really appreciate any responses that I get.

EDIT: forgot a cd-rom drive, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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November 19, 2011 6:25:06 AM

first of all build is awesome...

1.get 2x8 in dual stick g.skill no matter its 1.6 or 1.5 don't worry about that if your psu has more voltage then it's fine.oc'ing the ram gives 10 to 15 percent performance it great idea but 1600 can do the job don't think even if your rams are tall and block the cpu cooler your mobo is atx so it's fine here.

2.for gamming stay with 2500k gettin 2600k gives you the similar performance of 2500k 100mhz is 2600k faster but this won't makes games faster therefore 2500k is perfect choice.

3. I'm pretty sure it will fit

4.psu is awesome don't think to change it.

5.evo is outstanding for overclocking now.

6.it's better to get 580 in starting it can maxed every game 100% sure here.

7.asrock are good but if you don't like it then get asus p8z68-vdeluxe or pro.

8.you have already select a good hdd.

9.what about ssd the main component you missed. If you can take my advice look for 120gb for OS and some heavier games now your system is final and done.
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November 19, 2011 6:25:17 AM

first of all build is awesome...

1.get 2x8 in dual stick g.skill no matter its 1.6 or 1.5 don't worry about that if your psu has more voltage then it's fine.oc'ing the ram gives 10 to 15 percent performance it great idea but 1600 can do the job don't think even if your rams are tall and block the cpu cooler your mobo is atx so it's fine here.

2.for gamming stay with 2500k gettin 2600k gives you the similar performance of 2500k 100mhz is 2600k faster but this won't makes games faster therefore 2500k is perfect choice.

3. I'm pretty sure it will fit

4.psu is awesome don't think to change it.

5.evo is outstanding for overclocking now.

6.it's better to get 580 in starting it can maxed every game 100% sure here.

7.asrock are good but if you don't like it then get asus p8z68-vdeluxe or pro.

8.you have already select a good hdd.

9.what about ssd the main component you missed. If you can take my advice look for 120gb for OS and some heavier games now your system is final and done.
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November 20, 2011 1:21:36 AM

pro-gamer said:
first of all build is awesome...

1.get 2x8 in dual stick g.skill no matter its 1.6 or 1.5 don't worry about that if your psu has more voltage then it's fine.oc'ing the ram gives 10 to 15 percent performance it great idea but 1600 can do the job don't think even if your rams are tall and block the cpu cooler your mobo is atx so it's fine here.

2.for gamming stay with 2500k gettin 2600k gives you the similar performance of 2500k 100mhz is 2600k faster but this won't makes games faster therefore 2500k is perfect choice.

3. I'm pretty sure it will fit

4.psu is awesome don't think to change it.

5.evo is outstanding for overclocking now.

6.it's better to get 580 in starting it can maxed every game 100% sure here.

7.asrock are good but if you don't like it then get asus p8z68-vdeluxe or pro.

8.you have already select a good hdd.

9.what about ssd the main component you missed. If you can take my advice look for 120gb for OS and some heavier games now your system is final and done.



1. going with the g.skill is pretty expensive, since having 2 pairs of 8gb (4x4gb) wont speed it up, ill just stick 2x4gb. this should be plenty for now. its just a question of should i get corsair vengeance or if i should go with the kingston hyper x.

If I choose the kingston hyper x should i go with the t1 or the x2? the t1 is more for oc right? which i dont plan to do much of with the ram, and if i understand correctly, i cant do with a stick rated at 1600(i would need sticks rated at 1866 or higher to oc off the mb right?)

6. if i go with a 580, then what do you think of this one? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
From the few reviews no one really complains, and it seems to be a stock 580 with someones brand name on it, but who really needs to oc a 580? for the time being it should be plenty powerful for games and if i need more then i can just sli them later, thoughts opinions?

8. I have a good hdd selected but its incredibly expensive due to the flooding that occurred(was $84-89 depending where you looked) thats an extra $100. So would I be able to run an external drive as the primary for now? or does it have to be hooked up in the case? if it needs to be hooked up in the case i could always dismantle it and use it as an internal for the time being. but do you think it would be reliable that way? or do you think it would burn out shortly after being made into an internal(i can live with slow speeds for now)

9. I am leaning away from ssd for now, i have heard to many horror stories about them being unreliable(not sure if its brand related or interface related) plus the thought of spending $1+/gb, in my opinion, is a bit outrageous

Of course with current hdd prices i suppose i could cut out the hdd for now and buy a good reliable 128gb ssd(hopefully) and use the external as a backup, then at a later date when the prices for hdd goes back to normal i can but the wd caviar black 1tb

thanks for anyone who reads and replies.
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