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November 19, 2011 11:11:02 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: Around Black Friday and Cyber Monday

Budget Range: 500-550$

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Screen Capture, Editing, Streaming, Multitasking, Skype

Parts Not Required: Keyboard, Monitor, Mouse, Speaker, OS, MAYBE hard drive (Waiting for price to drop)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg, NCIX, Microcenter

Country: USA

Parts Preferences: Since I'll be multitasking and I've been hearing bad stuff about AMD, I would prefer an Intel Quad Core Processor. As for graphics card, doesn't really matter.

Overclocking: Nope

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080, though I have a lesser resolution monitor.
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Hey guys, long time lurker on tomshardware, first post. This is my first build. I know my budget's low, so I'm trying to use the incoming holidays to maybe find some deals. Here is what I have so far.

Motherboard

BIOSTAR H61MGC LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - 50$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processors

i5 2400 - 150$
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...

OR

i5 2320 - 175$
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63959&promoid=1282

Graphics Card

HIS H677FN1GD Radeon HD 6770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 - 105$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM

No idea yet, but I want a 4gb RAM. Not sure which one to get.

PSU

Corsair 430w - 35$
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60345&promoid=1282

DVD
Samsung 22x OEM- 17$
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=60344&promoid=1282

Case

Coolermaster Elite 370- 32$
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55447

FINAL (Without Rebates): 419-444$

And that's what I have so far. I haven't found a hard drive yet.
Thanks for reviewing!

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November 19, 2011 11:41:32 AM

First: Get the i5-2400. If you are buying at microcenter, get your motherboard there at the same time -- they offer an MSI H61 board for $10.

Use the savings to upgrade to an HD 6850 for about $150.

with an H61 board, you only need DDR3-1333, which runs about $25 right now for 4 GB (2x2GB) or $41 for 8 GB (2x4gb). Get a dual channel kit, it's about 5% faster than a single chip with the same amount of memory.
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November 19, 2011 11:56:02 AM

ScrewySqrl said:
First: Get the i5-2400. If you are buying at microcenter, get your motherboard there at the same time -- they offer an MSI H61 board for $10.

Use the savings to upgrade to an HD 6850 for about $150.

with an H61 board, you only need DDR3-1333, which runs about $25 right now for 4 GB (2x2GB) or $41 for 8 GB (2x4gb). Get a dual channel kit, it's about 5% faster than a single chip with the same amount of memory.


Thanks for the recommendations, but how do I go about doing this? Do I purchase the processor and the MOBO at the same time, and then a guy there will give me a discount? How did you find out, and how can I do this?




Thanks for the reply, but the point is I don't want an HDD over 100 (yes, I know, that won't happen) so I'll probably let that slide and get it later. I only need a 500gb.
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November 19, 2011 12:10:40 PM

there are some sweet motherboard/cpu combo deals at microcenter right now. you might be able to swing a 2500k in your budget with the stock cooler and a reasonably priced z68 motherboard. that would let you OC in the future greatly extending the life of your system.
herers the link to the advertised specials: http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/33e9daac#/33e9daac/...

this combo stands out:
http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?...
after combo savings and rebates its $220 but it gives you the ability to improve the performance of your pc while also using quicksync and switchable graphics to save power.

everything else looks solid. remember you will need a hard drive which might cost a bit right now due to price increases.
do you already have an OS? if not you will need that as well so add on another $100
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November 19, 2011 12:11:22 PM

yeah if you buy the two combo items they will automatically give you the discount
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November 19, 2011 12:32:30 PM

Radeon HD 6770 won't run all new games at 1920x1080 on max/high/ultra settings.
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November 19, 2011 1:40:08 PM

^agreed, in the $500 range if you are looking for quad core go with amd so you can get a beefier gpu.
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November 19, 2011 1:54:16 PM

IceTee said:
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Screen Capture, Editing, Streaming, Multitasking, Skype

Parts Preferences: Since I'll be multitasking and I've been hearing bad stuff about AMD, I would prefer an Intel Quad Core Processor. As for graphics card, doesn't really matter.
What type of multi tasking? The stuff you've mentioned? That's basically child's play for any modern dual core processor - Intel OR AMD. You don't need to sweat over Intel/AMD if that's your multi-tasking :) 

You can get a much better graphics card if you're willing to either get an AMD quad or Intel dual core CPU. I'll go with a Phenom II quad with a 6870 (I think I'll be able to fit that in your budget).

CPU+Mobo: $140 AMD Phenom IIX4 970+Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P AM3+

RAM: $32 CORSAIR XMS3 8GB

HDD: $95 Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s. I'm trying hard not to recommend 320GB drives at $100 :ouch: 

GPU: $160 SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870

PSU: $65 SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W

Case: $32 COOLER MASTER Elite 370 - In your link.

TOTAL: $524 after rebates+Shipping. This will pawn any of the other proposed builds by a factor of a million to one. What's more, some amount of OC'ing comes as a bonus :bounce: 

EDIT: GR8 GPU, 8GB RAM, HDD included and what's more, I've only included the very best brands in the industry today :) 

Corsair, Gigabyte, Cooler Master, Sapphire, Western Digital. Don't think you're gonna better that for either FPS or reliability at the price point, I don't think :) 
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November 19, 2011 2:25:10 PM

calguyhunk said:
What type of multi tasking? The stuff you've mentioned? That's basically child's play for any modern dual core processor - Intel OR AMD. You don't need to sweat over Intel/AMD if that's your multi-tasking :) 

You can get a much better graphics card if you're willing to either get an AMD quad or Intel dual core CPU. I'll go with a Phenom II quad with a 6870 (I think I'll be able to fit that in your budget).

CPU+Mobo: $140 AMD Phenom IIX4 970+Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P AM3+

RAM: $32 CORSAIR XMS3 8GB

HDD: $95 Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s. I'm trying hard not to recommend 320GB drives at $100 :ouch: 

GPU: $160 SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870

PSU: $65 SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W

Case: $32 COOLER MASTER Elite 370 - In your link.

TOTAL: $524 after rebates+Shipping. This will pawn any of the other proposed builds by a factor of a million to one. What's more, some amount of OC'ing comes as a bonus :bounce: 

EDIT: GR8 GPU, 8GB RAM, HDD included and what's more, I've only included the very best brands in the industry today :) 

Corsair, Gigabyte, Cooler Master, Sapphire, Western Digital. Don't think you're gonna better that for either FPS or reliability at the price point, I don't think :) 


i3 2100 will run circles around that CPU when overclocked, and a 6950 definitely makes a laughing stock of 6870 - especially at the price points.

Why would you go AMD/6870 when you could have Sandy Bridge and 6950 flashed to 6970?
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November 19, 2011 2:27:17 PM

calguyhunk said:
What type of multi tasking? The stuff you've mentioned? That's basically child's play for any modern dual core processor - Intel OR AMD. You don't need to sweat over Intel/AMD if that's your multi-tasking :) 

You can get a much better graphics card if you're willing to either get an AMD quad or Intel dual core CPU. I'll go with a Phenom II quad with a 6870 (I think I'll be able to fit that in your budget).

CPU+Mobo: $140 AMD Phenom IIX4 970+Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P AM3+

RAM: $32 CORSAIR XMS3 8GB

HDD: $95 Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s. I'm trying hard not to recommend 320GB drives at $100 :ouch: 

GPU: $160 SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870

PSU: $65 SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W

Case: $32 COOLER MASTER Elite 370 - In your link.

TOTAL: $524 after rebates+Shipping. This will pawn any of the other proposed builds by a factor of a million to one. What's more, some amount of OC'ing comes as a bonus :bounce: 

EDIT: GR8 GPU, 8GB RAM, HDD included and what's more, I've only included the very best brands in the industry today :) 

Corsair, Gigabyte, Cooler Master, Sapphire, Western Digital. Don't think you're gonna better that for either FPS or reliability at the price point, I don't think :) 


Thanks for the new build. Well I originally got this build from elsewhere, and this person told me Phenoms are trash and that to stream and play smoothly I should get an i5. But this looks good, I guess (I'm not really that good)
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November 19, 2011 2:32:46 PM

IceTee said:
Thanks for the new build. Well I originally got this build from elsewhere, and this person told me Phenoms are trash and that to stream and play smoothly I should get an i5. But this looks good, I guess (I'm not really that good)


Phenom's aren't 'trash' but, for instance - I just replaced my Phenom II X4 @ 3.6GHz with an Intel i5 and I couldn't be happier with the results. I didn't realize my Phenom was so sluggish.
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November 19, 2011 3:19:10 PM

ch3rok33jo3 said:
Phenom's aren't 'trash' but, for instance - I just replaced my Phenom II X4 @ 3.6GHz with an Intel i5 and I couldn't be happier with the results. I didn't realize my Phenom was so sluggish.


So what do you recommend? Should I continue with my old build, switch to a Phenom, do something to open up budget for a better graphics card?

Is the 6770 really THAT bad? It seems to be able to run BF3 at medium-high settings, and I primarily need it for SC2 and BF3.
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November 19, 2011 6:43:39 PM

6770 is a 5770 with tweaks. The 6770 isn't bad, but it will struggle over 1650x1050
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November 20, 2011 12:44:28 AM

So what do you guys recommend?
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November 20, 2011 1:25:01 AM

I already posted my suggestion with the i5-2400 and HD 6870, thsi will do games for at least the next 2 years at high/ultra setting at 1920x1080
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November 20, 2011 5:16:36 AM

ch3rok33jo3 said:
i3 2100 will run circles around that CPU when overclocked, and a 6950 definitely makes a laughing stock of 6870 - especially at the price points.

Why would you go AMD/6870 when you could have Sandy Bridge and 6950 flashed to 6970?
I'd like to see you propose a quality build with SB/6950 at this price point.

And we'll get to the 6950 flashing part once you post your imaginary build that will supposedly run circles round my build.
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November 20, 2011 5:39:16 AM

ch3rok33jo3 said:
i3 2100 will run circles around that CPU when overclocked, and a 6950 definitely makes a laughing stock of 6870 - especially at the price points.

Why would you go AMD/6870 when you could have Sandy Bridge and 6950 flashed to 6970?
Also, forget 'bout my last post, I'd love to see you overclock an i3-2100. LMFAO!!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol: 

Troll much?
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November 20, 2011 8:59:34 AM

ScrewySqrl said:
I already posted my suggestion with the i5-2400 and HD 6870, thsi will do games for at least the next 2 years at high/ultra setting at 1920x1080


Can you give me a link for the 10 dollar MOBO that you mentioned? After all this is cleared up I'll update my build. Also you mentioned an 6850, which one should I get?

BY THE WAY I found a deal on microcenter with buying a second gen i (x) processor. It's outdated, by the way.

Also should I consider calguyhunk's build?
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November 20, 2011 10:32:59 AM

ch3rok33jo3 said:
i3 2100 will run circles around that CPU when overclocked, and a 6950 definitely makes a laughing stock of 6870 - especially at the price points.

Why would you go AMD/6870 when you could have Sandy Bridge and 6950 flashed to 6970?

Can't tell if trolling or just doesn't know what they are talking about.
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November 20, 2011 1:39:25 PM

So which build do you guys think is best? I'm thinking of starting to buy these days. Going to make the final build soon after you guys put your input and which one of the recommended ones are the best.
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November 20, 2011 1:56:39 PM

IceTee said:
Can you give me a link for the 10 dollar MOBO that you mentioned? After all this is cleared up I'll update my build. Also you mentioned an 6850, which one should I get?

BY THE WAY I found a deal on microcenter with buying a second gen i (x) processor. It's outdated, by the way.

Also should I consider calguyhunk's build?



look ast the online advertisement flier for your store. If you buy an i5 processor, they generally have an MSI H61 motherboard for $9.99 -- you just have to also buy the proc at the same time. In general, there are several motherboards sold at deep discounts if bought at the same time as the processor
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November 20, 2011 1:58:42 PM

Obviously, I've a very clear idea about which build is the better one for your gaming+Multitasking build, that's why I posted it :) 

Do something, on the one hand wait for the other posters on this thread to give you an answer, on the other hand also start another thread with both the builds copied and pasted with the links exactly as they are and PM that link to some of the mods (if that's allowed) - I don't remember which one, but one of them has a "PM me" on his sig.
IceTee said:
... I've been hearing bad stuff about AMD, I would prefer an Intel Quad Core Processor.
The bad stuff that you've been hearing 'bout AMD is in reference to their very latest bulldozer range. Ironically, that's only because Mhz for Mhz, they are not as fast as the Phenoms. So basically, Phenoms are indeed the way to go at this price range either for multitasking of any sort and/or for running multi-threaded apps of any sort. Not to mention these things OC like crazy if you're ever so inclined :) 

P.S. - I have no idea 'bout sqrl's build. Maybe that's 'coz he PM'ed that to you? If that build actually includes an i5-2xxx with a 6870, that is obviously the way to go provided all the recommended vendors are quality ones.
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November 20, 2011 5:50:37 PM

calguyhunk said:
Obviously, I've a very clear idea about which build is the better one for your gaming+Multitasking build, that's why I posted it :) 

Do something, on the one hand wait for the other posters on this thread to give you an answer, on the other hand also start another thread with both the builds copied and pasted with the links exactly as they are and PM that link to some of the mods (if that's allowed) - I don't remember which one, but one of them has a "PM me" on his sig.The bad stuff that you've been hearing 'bout AMD is in reference to their very latest bulldozer range. Ironically, that's only because Mhz for Mhz, they are not as fast as the Phenoms. So basically, Phenoms are indeed the way to go at this price range either for multitasking of any sort and/or for running multi-threaded apps of any sort. Not to mention these things OC like crazy if you're ever so inclined :) 

P.S. - I have no idea 'bout sqrl's build. Maybe that's 'coz he PM'ed that to you? If that build actually includes an i5-2xxx with a 6870, that is obviously the way to go provided all the recommended vendors are quality ones.


Alright, thanks then for the advice. Best answered.
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November 20, 2011 5:50:59 PM

Best answer selected by IceTee.
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November 21, 2011 4:50:42 AM

Cheers. Hopefully you'll have a kicka$$ gaming rig once you're done :) 
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