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November 20, 2011 11:00:10 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: One Month (Have 400$ ready now, for good Cyber Monday deals if anyone has any early info)

Budget Range: $800 (Before Rebates would be best)

System Usage: Gaming, Media (Encoding/Converting for PS3, Android iOS), School

Websites: Walmart.com (Employee Discount), Newegg, Amazon, Microcenter (Only if the part is SHIP-ABLE), any reputable sellers honestly

Country: USA

Overclocking:
- CPU, Prob not
- GPU, Yes nTunes

SLI: Will do in the future. This is definitive.

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1600 (Normal Usage) & 2560x1600 (Gaming Usage)

I dont expect 45-60 fps (2560x1600) until I SLI
Before sli it'd be nice for 720p resolution and 30fps. With low AA/AF

Parts Not Required:
-Monitor: Dell 21" 2560x1600 from 2009
-Optical Drives (Old Computer, Hopefully they are SATA...)
-PSU: XFX PRO750w Core Edition

-Mouse/Keyboard
-OS/MS Office
Arctic Silver (Hopefully mine hasn't dried out. Its been sealed in a baggy with the cap on for 2 years since last use)

Games I plan to play: Minecraft, Skyrim, Arkham (City&Asylum), Rage, Maplestory


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Spent
$95 (PSU)
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=$95

Rebates
$30
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=$30

Total Spent
$95
-$30
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=$65
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Preferences: Intel, Gigabyte, ASUS, Foxconn, Kingston

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Current Choices:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2ufm
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Sentey Burton Extreme
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Current Price: $1000

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Questions for the experts

1136 vs 1155: Price/Performance
Should I change to a different platform?

CPU:
Is the 2500k too much since I dont plan to OC it. I want quad core, but is there a lesser Intel Quad Core that will work for me. Im not an Enthusiast. But I do want my games to run at:

2560x1600, 45-60fps, Modest AA&AF

GPU:
I plan on SLI in the future. But Price/Performance, can I get away with a less expensive card. I will only do Nvidia because I dislike ATI Catalyst Control Center and ATI Drivers.
I know the 560 is GREAT for Price/Performance. But I was wondering if I can get away with less.
I would consider ATI (Once again Price/Performance) if someone gave me proof that they have fixed their terrible driver issues that I read about during the 4k series. (I have been out of pc modding for a long time guys/gals)

RAM:
Seems like G. Skill is good. I have a soft spot for Kingston though. Oppinions?

PSU:
Since I plan on SLI, I want a PSU good for the future upgrade in mind, however. Am I going overkill?
I plan on running a small Minecraft server on this comp (10 or less people) so the computer is going to run 24/7. But I want to be power efficent too.... Seems contradictory. Im at a loss on what to chose on PSU.

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November 20, 2011 11:18:40 AM

At such resolution CPU does nothing, so throw a lot of money to GPU! And GTX 560 is terrible perfomance / price speaking... I would shoot for atleast a Radeon HD 6970 2GB. I'll try to make you a build in a moment
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November 20, 2011 11:20:49 AM

If you don't plan to OC you could get an i5-2500 or even a i5-2400, AND get a cheaper mobo (H67 chipset).

But I don't think it hurts to have OC enabled. i5-2500k + Z68 it would be the way to go.
And these PSU from your selection, it would be good to get a beefier one for the SLI.
750W PSU within almost all these power in 12v rails would be the bare minimum.
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November 20, 2011 11:24:49 AM

@michxymi
I look forward to your build recommendations :) 

***EDIT***
The 6970 is a full 100$ more then I have picked out already :s, and I am 200$ over my budget... so Im already out of wiggle room....
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@vitornob
The antec isnt enough?
34amp per 12v rail (2 rails) isnt enough for SLI?
I have never SLId b4, but it seems from my old research it should be enough.
I dont mean to sound contradictory. just trying to flush out some more info :) 
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November 20, 2011 11:41:39 AM

I looked and saw that a system with SLI GTX 570 OC would consume about 600w.
Pay attention that these PSU you selected can deliver 34A in each 12v rail, but can't deliver AT THE SAME TIME.

Just to check: if it was delivered at same time, we would have combined 68A in 12V -> 68A times 12V = 816W only considering 12v rails
Clearly this isn't the case since this PSU delivers at maximum, combining ALL the rails from ALL voltages, 650W.
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November 20, 2011 11:42:46 AM

It's quite impossible to get playable FPS at such resolution with this budget :/ 
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November 20, 2011 11:44:34 AM

To avoid future problems, evade multirail PSU, go for 1 rail PSU so you have the exact idea of 12v amperage.

Just an idea: considering GTX 570 consumption similar to GTX 470 consumption.
Go for this website: http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_build_psu.html
And look for certified PSU for GTX 470 SLI. Any one of these is capable of your config.
I myself have a XFX 750W PSU, that is a nice PSU that could handle your system.
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November 20, 2011 11:45:30 AM

vitornob said:
I looked and saw that a system with SLI GTX 570 OC would consume about 600w.
Pay attention that these PSU you selected can deliver 34A in each 12v rail, but can't deliver AT THE SAME TIME.

Just to check: if it was delivered at same time, we would have combined 68A in 12V -> 68A times 12V = 816W only considering 12v rails
Clearly this isn't the case since this PSU delivers at maximum, combining ALL the rails from ALL voltages, 650W.


I didnt know how to do math on PSUs. That is good info, I can see now that this PSU isnt enough.
Do you have a personal recomendation?

this was the PSU i was looking at b4 the antec earthwatts

RAIDMAX RX-850AE 850W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 20, 2011 11:47:05 AM

michxymi said:
It's quite impossible to get playable FPS at such resolution with this budget :/ 


I dont expect 45-60 fps until I SLI

Before sli it'd be nice for 720p resolution and 30fps. With low AA/AF
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November 20, 2011 11:49:19 AM

vitornob said:
To avoid future problems, evade multirail PSU, go for 1 rail PSU so you have the exact idea of 12v amperage.

Just an idea: considering GTX 570 consumption similar to GTX 470 consumption.
Go for this website: http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_build_psu.html
And look for certified PSU for GTX 470 SLI. Any one of these is capable of your config.
I myself have a XFX 750W PSU, that is a nice PSU that could handle your system.


what about

XFX Core Edition PRO650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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November 20, 2011 11:49:26 AM

sazyario said:
I dont expect 45-60 fps until I SLI

Before sli it'd be nice for 720p resolution and 30fps. With low AA/AF


If you play at 1920 x 1080 or even at 1920 x 1200 you will be OK even without SLI, with either a 560ti or 6950 2GB. But for higher res is kind of impossible.
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November 20, 2011 11:51:41 AM

michxymi said:
If you play at 1920 x 1080 or even at 1920 x 1200 you will be OK even without SLI, with either a 560ti or 6950 2GB. But for higher res is kind of impossible.


Even if I SLI/CX I cant 2560x1600 w/o a card higher then 560ti or 6950?!
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November 20, 2011 11:54:55 AM

sazyario said:
Even if I SLI/CX I cant 2560x1600 w/o a card higher then 560ti or 6950?!


single GPU (560ti or 6950) --> playable fps with all filters on @ 1920 x 1080 & 1920 x 1200

SLI or Crossfire --> playable fps @ 2560 x 1200

That's what I mean
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November 20, 2011 1:22:54 PM

By any way is possible to raise the bar a little bit? Look for the XFX 750W or any other PSU 750W (or more) it will give you room for the OC parts.
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November 20, 2011 1:53:55 PM

vitornob said:
By any way is possible to raise the bar a little bit? Look for the XFX 750W or any other PSU 750W (or more) it will give you room for the OC parts.


Its hard to pass up a 60$ PSU that is known for quality though.
Going up to the 750w is expensiveeee. lol.

imma look to see if i can find another single rail PSU at 750w.

What should the amp on the rail be? 60+?
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November 20, 2011 2:01:05 PM

50+A would be a good one (450W VGAs + 125w CPU=575W total->divided by 12v=48A in 12V rails)
You gonna work in the limit through (the latest PSU gives 53A)
So I would recommend you to use the cpu and vga in stock if you stick with this PSU
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November 20, 2011 2:06:20 PM

vitornob said:
50+A would be a good one (450W VGAs + 125w CPU=575W total->divided by 12v=48A in 12V rails)
You gonna work in the limit through (the latest PSU gives 53A)
So I would recommend you to use the cpu and vga in stock if you stick with this PSU


well.... I cant pass THIS up

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=59617&vpn=P1750SNLB9&m...

65$
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November 20, 2011 2:30:38 PM

vitornob said:
WOW.. order it already for God's sake!
It's EXACTLY what you need!!


Well, 1 part down! Lol!

Honestly.
What should I do for Graphics card?
Should I just stick with the 560Ti?
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November 20, 2011 2:47:54 PM

Two motives to vote for GTX 570:
- For your resolution (very high) you should grab the GTX 570, you gonna use it.

- When you gonna SLI it, it will appear a problem called microstuttering, and this is less pronouncied in faster cards in SLI (SLI GTX 570 will have less stuttering than SLI GTX 560Ti)
Stuttering gives you a impression of slower games, besides the real fps. For example if a game that run at 60 fps average, stutters, it will appear that went to 30 fps for some time and came back. You WILL perceive this, and, through you can't tell what happened, you will feel that the game is 'lagging' besides it keeps at 60fps.
It's a intrinsic problem in SLI/Crossfire, it can't be eliminated, but can be greately minimized (going for HIGH-END SLI, and not mid range).

I do speak from experience, I own a SLI GTX 460 system
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November 20, 2011 3:14:01 PM

vitornob said:
Two motives to vote for GTX 570:
- For your resolution (very high) you should grab the GTX 570, you gonna use it.

- When you gonna SLI it, it will appear a problem called microstuttering, and this is less pronouncied in faster cards in SLI (SLI GTX 570 will have less stuttering than SLI GTX 560Ti)
Stuttering gives you a impression of slower games, besides the real fps. For example if a game that run at 60 fps average, stutters, it will appear that went to 30 fps for some time and came back. You WILL perceive this, and, through you can't tell what happened, you will feel that the game is 'lagging' besides it keeps at 60fps.
It's a intrinsic problem in SLI/Crossfire, it can't be eliminated, but can be greately minimized (going for HIGH-END SLI, and not mid range).

I do speak from experience, I own a SLI GTX 460 system


I appreciate that insight.

what do you think about this:

Radeon 6950 2gb
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-ATI-AMD-Radeon-HD-6950-EAH...
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