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Anonymous
March 27, 2005 4:09:55 PM

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Taken from gamefaqs board.

Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 15:37 JST
LOS ANGELES - The U.S. District Court in Oakland, California, has
ordered Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. and its U.S. unit to pay $90.7
million in damages to Immersion Corp. for patent infringement over
controllers used with PlayStation game consoles.

In the ruling handed down Thursday, the federal court also ordered Sony
Computer Entertainment and Sony Entertainment America Inc. to stop
selling the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 game consoles using Dualshock
controllers as well as more than 40 game software products. (Kyodo
News)

http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=3&id=3320...

More about : ruling sony

Anonymous
March 28, 2005 1:07:13 AM

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"Robert P Holley" <holleyrp@delanet.com> wrote in message
news:1111954195.563481.251500@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Taken from gamefaqs board.
>
> Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 15:37 JST
> LOS ANGELES - The U.S. District Court in Oakland, California, has
> ordered Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. and its U.S. unit to pay $90.7
> million in damages to Immersion Corp. for patent infringement over
> controllers used with PlayStation game consoles.
>
> In the ruling handed down Thursday, the federal court also ordered Sony
> Computer Entertainment and Sony Entertainment America Inc. to stop
> selling the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 game consoles using Dualshock
> controllers as well as more than 40 game software products. (Kyodo
> News)
>
> http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=3&id=3320...
>

Microsoft Wins! Microsoft Wins!

ya right....
Anonymous
March 28, 2005 1:10:40 AM

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Robert P Holley wrote:
>
> Taken from gamefaqs board.
>
> Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 15:37 JST
> LOS ANGELES - The U.S. District Court in Oakland, California, has
> ordered Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. and its U.S. unit to pay $90.7
> million in damages to Immersion Corp. for patent infringement over
> controllers used with PlayStation game consoles.
>
> In the ruling handed down Thursday, the federal court also ordered Sony
> Computer Entertainment and Sony Entertainment America Inc. to stop
> selling the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 game consoles using Dualshock
> controllers as well as more than 40 game software products. (Kyodo
> News)
>
> http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=3&id=3320...

that they will eventually have to pay out a lot of cash?
--
Paul (That’s what keeps me down)
------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/
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March 28, 2005 4:58:58 AM

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"Paul Heslop" <paul.heslop@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Robert P Holley wrote:
>
> Taken from gamefaqs board.
>
> Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 15:37 JST
> LOS ANGELES - The U.S. District Court in Oakland, California, has
> ordered Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. and its U.S. unit to pay $90.7
> million in damages to Immersion Corp. for patent infringement over
> controllers used with PlayStation game consoles.
>
> In the ruling handed down Thursday, the federal court also ordered Sony
> Computer Entertainment and Sony Entertainment America Inc. to stop
> selling the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 game consoles using Dualshock
> controllers as well as more than 40 game software products. (Kyodo
> News)
>
> http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=3&id=3320...

>that they will eventually have to pay out a lot of cash?

And withdraw all games, consoles and controllers from sale which utilise the
dualshock technology.
Anonymous
March 28, 2005 4:58:59 AM

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Beck wrote:
>
> "Paul Heslop" <paul.heslop@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:4247212B.51CDE2A0@blueyonder.co.uk...
> Robert P Holley wrote:
> >
> > Taken from gamefaqs board.
> >
> > Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 15:37 JST
> > LOS ANGELES - The U.S. District Court in Oakland, California, has
> > ordered Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. and its U.S. unit to pay $90.7
> > million in damages to Immersion Corp. for patent infringement over
> > controllers used with PlayStation game consoles.
> >
> > In the ruling handed down Thursday, the federal court also ordered Sony
> > Computer Entertainment and Sony Entertainment America Inc. to stop
> > selling the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 game consoles using Dualshock
> > controllers as well as more than 40 game software products. (Kyodo
> > News)
> >
> > http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=3&id=3320...
>
> >that they will eventually have to pay out a lot of cash?
>
> And withdraw all games, consoles and controllers from sale which utilise the
> dualshock technology.

I think it says they can pay the dosh on one report. I don't know, but
hell, I'm in the UK :o )
--
Paul (That’s what keeps me down)
------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/
March 28, 2005 8:15:45 AM

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"Robert P Holley" wrote in message
> Taken from gamefaqs board.
>
> Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 15:37 JST
> LOS ANGELES - The U.S. District Court in Oakland, California, has
> ordered Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. and its U.S. unit to pay $90.7
> million in damages to Immersion Corp. for patent infringement over
> controllers used with PlayStation game consoles.
>
> In the ruling handed down Thursday, the federal court also ordered Sony
> Computer Entertainment and Sony Entertainment America Inc. to stop
> selling the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 game consoles using Dualshock
> controllers as well as more than 40 game software products. (Kyodo
> News)
>
> http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=3&id=3320...


It means that Sony will appeal, appeal, and between appealing they will
appeal.

Don't know if Immersion has any leg to stand on by this "claim", but Sony
certaintly has deeper pockets -- and more lawyers.
March 28, 2005 8:15:46 AM

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"Eric" <ericmau001a@hotmail.remove.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=3&id=3320...
>
>
> It means that Sony will appeal, appeal, and between appealing they will
> appeal.
>
> Don't know if Immersion has any leg to stand on by this "claim",

Well obviously they have *some* leg to stand on being that the U.S. District
Court in Oakland ruled in their favor.

but Sony
> certaintly has deeper pockets -- and more lawyers.
>
....and yet Sony was still ordered to pay. Perhaps Sony needs to delve
deeper into those pockets and get a few more lawyers.
Anonymous
March 28, 2005 12:09:13 PM

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The critical thing is that the order to halt sales of the PS1/PS2,
controllers and games doesn't go into effect until AFTER all appeals
are exhausted. Sony will be selling the PS4, if not the PS5 by the
time they're done with the appeals process. So PlayStation fans need
not worry about the order ever affecting them. I'm sure the PS3
"TriShock" controllers will either be redesigned not to include
Immersion's vibration technology, or they'll pay them for the license.

--
Bill Cable - Steelers Fan & Star Wars Collector
http://CreatureCantina.com <----- funny!
cable@creaturecantina.com
March 28, 2005 7:12:53 PM

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In article <1111954195.563481.251500@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
"Robert P Holley" <holleyrp@delanet.com> wrote:

> Taken from gamefaqs board.
>
> Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 15:37 JST
> LOS ANGELES - The U.S. District Court in Oakland, California, has
> ordered Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. and its U.S. unit to pay $90.7
> million in damages to Immersion Corp. for patent infringement over
> controllers used with PlayStation game consoles.
>
> In the ruling handed down Thursday, the federal court also ordered Sony
> Computer Entertainment and Sony Entertainment America Inc. to stop
> selling the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 game consoles using Dualshock
> controllers as well as more than 40 game software products. (Kyodo
> News)
>
> http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=3&id=3320...

For all we know, Immersion could be another SCO.
March 28, 2005 9:09:02 PM

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"Robert P Holley" <holleyrp@delanet.com> wrote in message
news:1111954195.563481.251500@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> Taken from gamefaqs board.
>
> Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 15:37 JST
> LOS ANGELES - The U.S. District Court in Oakland, California, has
> ordered Sony Computer Entertainment Inc. and its U.S. unit to pay $90.7
> million in damages to Immersion Corp. for patent infringement over
> controllers used with PlayStation game consoles.
>
> In the ruling handed down Thursday, the federal court also ordered Sony
> Computer Entertainment and Sony Entertainment America Inc. to stop
> selling the PlayStation and PlayStation 2 game consoles using Dualshock
> controllers as well as more than 40 game software products. (Kyodo
> News)
>
> http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=3&id=3320...
>


How could Sony lose this case when Immersion made the patent in 1995, there
were a host of games at the arcade that had rumble feedback on steering
wheels before 1995. This company is just ripping people off. Anyone else
know of examples?
Anonymous
March 29, 2005 5:51:25 AM

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poldy <poldy@kfu.com> wrote:

> For all we know, Immersion could be another SCO.


"Could"? "Is" is more like it...

If the patent came out in 1995, why'd it take them 10 years to come after
Sony?

There have been older controllers that used rumble-feedback as well, so I
suspect this is going to turn into a battle of Sony trying to get
Imersion's patents thrown out due to prior art, which would throw this
case out, and probably end up with Sony suing Immersion (if they haven't
done so already.)

Just sounds like a desparate money-grab to me. Like someone formed a
company whose sole purpose is to sue someone...
Anonymous
March 29, 2005 10:00:31 AM

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On 3/28/05 10:09 AM, in article
1112026153.411193.266580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com, "Bill Cable"
<billcable@gmail.com> wrote:

> The critical thing is that the order to halt sales of the PS1/PS2,
> controllers and games doesn't go into effect until AFTER all appeals
> are exhausted. Sony will be selling the PS4, if not the PS5 by the
> time they're done with the appeals process. So PlayStation fans need
> not worry about the order ever affecting them. I'm sure the PS3
> "TriShock" controllers will either be redesigned not to include
> Immersion's vibration technology, or they'll pay them for the license.
>
> --
> Bill Cable - Steelers Fan & Star Wars Collector
> http://CreatureCantina.com <----- funny!
> cable@creaturecantina.com
>


Couldn't have said it better myself. The way the court system currently is
tied up, I wouldn't be surprised if Immersion decided to settle 2 years from
now out of pure boredom waiting for the appeals process to run its course.

RickB
April 1, 2005 5:08:27 PM

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Lizzy wrote:

>
> How could Sony lose this case when Immersion made the patent in 1995, there
> were a host of games at the arcade that had rumble feedback on steering
> wheels before 1995. This company is just ripping people off. Anyone else
> know of examples?
>
>

If anyone remembers Scalextric slot cars, when I was 13 or so (I'm now
40 :( ) I placed a motor with an off centre copper weight in the
handcontroller to make it vibrate with the speed of the car. When I took
apart a PS2 controller to fix the cord, I found almost the exact same
thing inside. Sad thing is when your 13 you don't think abt hiring a
patent lawyer, else Sony would owe me $90 mil instead of Immersion.
-JS

PS. I think mobile phones have the same sort of gadget in them to make
them vibrate. Nokia should watch their back.
!