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February 22, 2012 10:24:26 AM

So I went out and bought a new computer today. My buddy and I made a night of it and used Toms several times hooking it up but we (well.. more like he) got it done. Everything is great except the CPU is idling 55c. We hadn't installed the Drivers yet so we did that really quick thinking it may have been incorrect.. It was not :heink:  55c stock while idling is not a good sign (or normal) seeing as how max safe temp is 61c is our guess. Any suggestions to why this may be? Hooked up to an ASUS M5A97 if that helps at all..? I have no problem going out and purchasing products you may suggest within reason (I went AMD for a reason.. lets be honest $_$).

New Heatsink? More fans? Malfunctioning unit? Known problem? Any information would be read and put to great use. You guys are great!

Thanks!

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February 22, 2012 11:02:26 AM

Yes 55°C is high. First check that your cooler is properly seated before going out to buy an after market cooler which will be necessary if you are planning to overclock.
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February 22, 2012 11:23:54 AM

If your cooler is seated correctly and you need to purchase a new one. I would look at Corsairs H100 if your case has room. It will have no problem keeping it cool, looks great, hassle free and leaves you room in the future if you decide to OC.

If you don't have room I would look at the Corsair H80. Also a great piece of hardware. Hope this helps.
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February 22, 2012 11:51:33 AM

o_tipper_x said:
If your cooler is seated correctly and you need to purchase a new one. I would look at Corsairs H100 if your case has room. It will have no problem keeping it cool, looks great, hassle free and leaves you room in the future if you decide to OC.

If you don't have room I would look at the Corsair H80. Also a great piece of hardware. Hope this helps.

Something tells me the guy who says he went AMD because of the cost isn't going to want to spend another $120 on a fancy, overpriced closed loop liquid cooling system. Just a hunch.

To the OP, chances are you just don't have the fan seated properly on the chip. Pull it off, scrape off the thermal paste, apply a fresh coat carefully (needs to be very thin, more is not better), and put the fan back on.
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February 22, 2012 12:08:45 PM

I have an AMD because of price/cost benfit and plan on going to the H100. You can find them on amazon for $109 with free shipping.

But I am also partial to water cooling. :) 
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February 22, 2012 12:34:23 PM

o_tipper_x said:
I have an AMD because of price/cost benfit and plan on going to the H100. You can find them on amazon for $109 with free shipping.

But I am also partial to water cooling. :) 

In my opinion, the H100 is a huge waste of money. 5% better than a good air cooler for 100% more cost makes no sense to me, especially from a price/cost standpoint.

Seriously, why pick the cheaper, inferior chip, then spend tons of money trying to make it perform as well as the high end chips? Why didn't you just buy the high end chip to begin with? FX-8150 + H100 costs about the same as a 2700k, or a 2600k with a good aftermarket cooler for overclocking.
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February 22, 2012 1:24:28 PM

willard said:

Seriously, why pick the cheaper, inferior chip, then spend tons of money trying to make it perform as well as the high end chips? Why didn't you just buy the high end chip to begin with? FX-8150 + H100 costs about the same as a 2700k, or a 2600k with a good aftermarket cooler for overclocking.



I don't just game I do a lot of mulitasking. I wanted the extra cores to help handle that and I have been very happy with it so far. And if I went with the higher end intel chip, that means more expensive mobo too.

It was just right for me.
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February 22, 2012 1:32:06 PM

rolli59 said:
Yes 55°C is high. First check that your cooler is properly seated before going out to buy an after market cooler which will be necessary if you are planning to overclock.

+1 ^ :) 

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I don't just game I do a lot of mulitasking. I wanted the extra cores to help handle that and I have been very happy with it so far. And if I went with the higher end intel chip, that means more expensive mobo too.

It was just right for me.


Planning to go with the Fx 8120 for the same reason :D 
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February 22, 2012 1:54:41 PM

Intel

i7 2600k @3.5 - $369.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS - 204.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


AMD
FX-8150 @3.6 - $249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASUS Crosshair V Formula AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Gaming Motherboard with 3-Way SLI/CrossFireX Support and UEFI BIOS - $249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel 369.99+204.99=574.98
AMD 249.99+249.99=499.98

difference being $75 to put towards cooling. Now I'm not saying that the FX8150 would keep up with the i72600k in gaming, but thats not what I use my system for mainly. And with the new cooler I can OC without worry
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February 22, 2012 2:14:50 PM

Screw it, go xspc rasa!
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February 22, 2012 2:41:56 PM

get a prolimatech megahalems rev.C with 2x cougar fans in push/pull and you have a wonderful aircooler.good enough to challenge very big boys(phenteks and noctuas).
to OP yea your cooler is creating problems,change it with 212 EVO or the one i suggested to cool it down...........................
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February 22, 2012 2:46:51 PM

o_tipper_x said:
Intel

i7 2600k @3.5 - $369.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS - 204.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


AMD
FX-8150 @3.6 - $249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASUS Crosshair V Formula AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Gaming Motherboard with 3-Way SLI/CrossFireX Support and UEFI BIOS - $249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel 369.99+204.99=574.98
AMD 249.99+249.99=499.98

difference being $75 to put towards cooling. Now I'm not saying that the FX8150 would keep up with the i72600k in gaming, but thats not what I use my system for mainly. And with the new cooler I can OC without worry


2600k is $329, not $369. The 2700k is $369. You can also get really nice LGA 1155 boards in the $120 to $180 price range. So, better numbers might be:

Intel: $329 + $189 = 518
AMD: $249 + 249 =499

In my book, going from Bulldozer to a 2600k is well worth $19.
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February 22, 2012 2:53:35 PM

Have you installed the chipset drivers etc. yet. if you have not, it is probably not really idling. use cpu-z to tell us voltage and clockspeed whilst you think it is idling.
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February 22, 2012 2:56:49 PM

willard said:
2600k is $329, not $369. The 2700k is $369. You can also get really nice LGA 1155 boards in the $120 to $180 price range. So, better numbers might be:

Intel: $329 + $189 = 518
AMD: $249 + 249 =499

In my book, going from Bulldozer to a 2600k is well worth $19.


He's got what he's got, unless he plans of returning it + restocking fees.

OP do you plan on returning it?

If not can we stop the 'you should have brought' comments (fyi i'll be going intel on next build)

If you are interested in returning it then do it and get a 2500K, and OC the life out of it on air.

Also water, don't bother, lots of cost, often as much noise, and no better cooling. If you are going to do water, do it properly.

Willard, not particularly aimed at you, just want to stop it before it gets any momentum, and keep the thread clear for actual solutions.

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February 22, 2012 3:21:55 PM

opps I did post the link for the 2700k sorry.
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February 22, 2012 4:49:32 PM

13thmonkey said:
He's got what he's got, unless he plans of returning it + restocking fees.

OP do you plan on returning it?

If not can we stop the 'you should have brought' comments (fyi i'll be going intel on next build)

I agree, this is not a productive area of discussion. Though I stand by my opinion that building a system around a budget processor, then buying the most expensive cooling system on the market (custom water coolers excluded) borders on insanity.
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February 22, 2012 4:53:46 PM

willard said:
I agree, this is not a productive area of discussion. Though I stand by my opinion that building a system around a budget processor, then buying the most expensive cooling system on the market (custom water coolers excluded) borders on insanity.



cool story bro
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February 22, 2012 5:09:10 PM

willard said:
I agree, this is not a productive area of discussion. Though I stand by my opinion that building a system around a budget processor, then buying the most expensive cooling system on the market (custom water coolers excluded) borders on insanity.


Oh I agree completely, it would be a dumb thing to do, it doesn't help solve his problem right now though, thats a discussion for a different thread, the why is bulldozer what it is, or the real value proposition of the bulldozer setup.
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February 22, 2012 6:29:31 PM

I dont want to return it if i dont have to. spending 30-50 on a fan is fine but I dont really want to spend the money on water cooling to fix a problem that honestly shouldnt exist out of box. I think i will head to microcenter right now and buy a new fan for the case and a new cooler and some new thermal paste and I'll see if that works. The case I bought had 2 fans in it... They were set to medium speed apparently so I opened the case and set them to High and the CPU temp dropped to 50-51c. So I think its just an airflow problem.. Thank you for the advice guys I will return with new products. Hopefully they work.. Computer Withdrawls... *shudders*
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February 22, 2012 6:34:35 PM

Oh and just to clarify before heading out to get some products, all drivers have been installed etc We had read online that it may just be a misreading and that other programs may give me a correct reading but i think its pretty accurate seeing as how when i turned the fan speeds up inside the case i got it to drop 4-5 degrees... OS wont be in till friday so screenshots are going to have to wait =[
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February 24, 2012 1:26:12 PM

Zymotic: I'm hardly an expert, but the poster who recommended the Coolermaster Hyper212EVO is correct. It is an excellent cooler and if you add a second fan to create a push/pull effect it is great. Here's what I suggest. Buy the CM Hyper212EVO+extra 120mm fan+ArticSilver thermal paste. For the EVO install you will most likely have to remove your mb to add the backplate from the EVO setup. BTW, I used this EVO with 2 fans on an Asus Sabertooth 990FX with an 1100Thuban OCd to 3952 and it runs VERY cool. Make sure to carefully clean the 8150 CPU with Isoprophyl alcohol (buy a)t walmart 91%). After the CPU is clean apply a small drop of AS and with your finger wrapped in Saran Wrap slowly spread the drop from the middle until the CPU face is covered with a very thin coating of AS. Follow the directions carefully for attaching the EVO heatsink (make sure the fans are not attached until the heatsink is firmly attached. Re attach the original fan and attach the extra fan Make sure they are blowing in the same direction for a push pull effect. Attach the main fan to the CPU header and the 2nd fan to the case fan header. In your BIOS under the temp monitor section try to sewt the CPU and case fan to run at @ the same speed. I found that this takes some experimenting with the fan level speeds. This will have a BIG impact on the temps.

Good luck
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February 24, 2012 1:55:24 PM

PHANTEKS PH-TC14PE REPORTING IN

Im big, I'm 'ard and I'm multicolored.

I also like standing on NH-D14's
I can crush Hyper 212+'s with my little toe.
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