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February 23, 2012 12:18:43 PM

hello i have £500 to spend on my computer i currently have an x4 955 @4.2ghz a micro atx msi motherboard witch does crossfire a msi hd6850 4gb ddr3 a 850 watt corsair psu and a fractal design define mini case.
my conundrum is should i upgrade my cpu+gpu+motherboard to an i5 2500k gtx 560ti and a asus rampage iv gene for roughly £500 [and sell the surplus parts on flebay]
or should i just go all out and buy a beast of a gpu something like a gtx 580 or even gtx 590 or maby sum of the next gen cards and keep my x4 955

thanks mark!

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February 23, 2012 12:22:17 PM

forgot to add my monitor only does 1680x1050
February 23, 2012 12:53:20 PM

while the 955 is ok (the 4.2Ghz seems too fast... the fastest speed that i got on a 955 stable was 3.7, 2400NB at 1.44 volts)


go with intel/nvidia system, it pains me to recommend a intel system, but it will be faster.

or get the get the 7950, it idles at the same power as the 6850, and is 50% faster at 1650x1050 on metro 2033. (techpowerup . com)
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February 23, 2012 12:55:33 PM

You don't need to upgrade from cf 6850, they perform roughly like a 580. Honestly i wouldn't get a micro atx motherboard and suggest you upgrade the case.
February 23, 2012 12:56:42 PM

I would go for the i5-2400 CPU and any ASUS or Gigabyte z68 motherboard. The 2400 is only 10% slower at stock speed, and still plenty fast enough. The Rampage motherboard is extreme overkill unless you need all those features.

I would see how that works for you, and then work on the vid card upgrade along with 4 more gigs of ram which is the sweetspot for Windows 6 64bit. Even a GTX 570 would be a healthy upgrade, and with that PSU, adding a second 570 later would be no problem. not so sure of the airflow in the case with dual cards though. Might need to upgrade to a mid tower like the Coolermaster HAF 912 or similar.

If you do plan on dual vid cards later, make sure the motherboard will run dual cards at x8 speed. Some only run 1 at x16 and the other at x4.
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February 23, 2012 1:09:37 PM

My first question is, why do you feel like you need any upgrade at all? What application(s) or game(s) are not performing as well as you would like? Your monitor's resolution is modest, and you've got a good overclock (are you sure it's stable?) so I'm not sure what you are wanting to accomplish. Please tell us, otherwise I'm not sure what to suggest.
Do you have a SSD? If not, adding one (I'd suggest 120GB-128GB) will make a big difference in your overall user experience.
Otherwise, you might pick up a single GTX560Ti and a 1920x1080 monitor within your budget.
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February 23, 2012 1:10:09 PM

Excuse me...double post deleted.
February 23, 2012 1:23:00 PM

Looks like you already have one 6850 and you say your board can do crossfire - why not just add another 6850 and call it a day? This should keep you running until a more substantial upgrade is warranted.
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February 23, 2012 1:28:50 PM

Don't take the advice of anyone urging you to spend money until you have defined what it is you'd like to accomplish.
February 23, 2012 3:35:16 PM

hi thanks every one for your input the reason for the upgrade is strictly for gaming. The main reason i have the urge to upgrade something is i have a friend with a i7 920 @4ghz and a gtx 570.
we swapped graphics cards to see the difference it would make to our gameplay he also has a 1680x150 monitor and we both tried playing skyrim witch i was having some laging problems with mainly when turning round a full 360 degrees it would pause and stutter with my x4 and the hd6850.
But when we used the hd6850 with the i7 920 and i used the gtx 570 with my x4 955 this no longer happen so this i why i am confused with what to do it seems if you have a more powerfull cpu you dont need as much gpu power for some games and vise- versa
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February 23, 2012 4:46:43 PM

You do realize that by swapping cards and going to nvidia, assuming you didnt do a driver sweep of everything ATI, is gonna cause issues. Not really a good indication of how it would run on a clean driver install.
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February 23, 2012 4:55:02 PM

markuk1 said:
hi thanks every one for your input the reason for the upgrade is strictly for gaming. The main reason i have the urge to upgrade something is i have a friend with a i7 920 @4ghz and a gtx 570.
we swapped graphics cards to see the difference it would make to our gameplay he also has a 1680x150 monitor and we both tried playing skyrim witch i was having some laging problems with mainly when turning round a full 360 degrees it would pause and stutter with my x4 and the hd6850.
But when we used the hd6850 with the i7 920 and i used the gtx 570 with my x4 955 this no longer happen so this i why i am confused with what to do it seems if you have a more powerfull cpu you dont need as much gpu power for some games and vise- versa


I'm not the gaming Guru of deep details on Skyrim but my understanding is it's CPU-bound, and running 2x video cards doesn't quite scale as one might expect. And one should expect quite a big difference between a 6850 and a 570, anyway, especially in Skyrim.

However, there seems to be a nice improvement going from the Radeon 6xxx series to the 7xxx series. I'm not sure if Skyrim is one of the games where the 6xxx series struggled a bit --- might be.





Some other folks will have to detail the FXAA/MSAA for you --- and here's Tom's Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim: PC Performance, Benchmarked article



Good luck!




February 23, 2012 4:59:17 PM

just for info, i have just upgraded from an amd 955 running at 4.2ghz on a crosshair formula 3, it was an expensive mobo but worth every penny i just clicked the cpu level up in bios and had 4.2ghz stable all day everyday. to an i7 2700k 16gb of ram and an asrock extreme 4 motherboard, i kept my 5850 for the time being i am waiting for the 7870 to come out . my upgrade cost me £550 quid ish but you could get less ram or a cheaper motherboard to bring it in to budget. or just run it with the 4gb of ddr 3 that you have already. but to tell you the truth allthough it is faster i dont think it is 500quid faster. the best thing i ever bought was the ssd drive that was the biggest speed increase i ever had. so much so i am thinking about getting a second and putting them in raid.
February 23, 2012 5:22:30 PM

okey so i should just basically upgrade my graphics card and not worry about the cpu
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February 23, 2012 6:59:24 PM

I'm not sure the HD6850 is a great card to Crossfire due to microstuttering, but only you know if you're sensitive to that. Also, AMD systems do not handle multiple cards as well as Intel system, although I've never seen the cause of that explored, and it seems to be something more than just AMD CPUs being weaker.
Check this out too: http://www.hardocp.com/article/2011/11/28/skyrim_amd_cr...
The little Skyrim I've played so far has been with a GTX560Ti, which seems to work pretty well. I've got a 3.8GHz 970BE, so your CPU is faster because of the much higher OC.

February 23, 2012 7:46:53 PM

I would not go for the crossfire system unless your playing on huge screens, there is no real benfit when playing on standard size monitors.
February 24, 2012 1:12:34 PM

maddy: when you turn on all the eye candies on 6850 is not the stallion. Anyway If I was markuk I would get nice 27" monitor and 6850 to CF that would change the gaming experience significantly
February 24, 2012 1:47:11 PM

i realise that the 6850 is not a stallion as i own a 5850, but i doubt he would benifit from a crossfire system due to not having a massive display so i think the money would be better spent on either a better gfx card, or a better cpu, mobo and mem config. i would say the best option is to wait until the 7870's comes out, then decide with 500 quid you could prob get an i5, mobo use the memory he has and spend the rest on a graphics card.
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