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November 22, 2011 6:55:51 PM

Hey Guys,

Need help with a Budget Gaming Pc $900 - $1200 (which will be my first)...

Here are the specs which i have thought of:

Processor: Core i5 2500K
GFX Card: Geforce 570 (x2 for future SLI)
Ram: 8GB DDR3 1600mhz
Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V
PSU: 700W

So, where is it that i need help?..
Here goes nothing.. :o 

1) Gfx Card: 560 Ti or 570? (considering SLI in the future)
2) Which Asus P8Z68, budget and value-wise AND/OR Which Mobo, if not ASUS?
3) PSU Power enough or do i need more? (considering potential SLI after maybe 1 - 2 years :p )
4) Any Suggestions? ($1000 Budget/Case/PSU/cooler/gfx/brand)
5) Thanks :D 

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November 22, 2011 7:39:00 PM

1) Considering you're going SLI 1-2 years later and want the most eye candy right now... I would go for the GTX 570 (if price wasn't an issue). However, if price was an issue, then the 560 Ti still would be plenty to play most modern games at high/highest settings.

2) IMO, the best budget board with PLENTY of features you can grab is this: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... )

3) A strong 700w would be enough to power 2 560Ti's however, if you're looking to power 2 570's, I would look into something along the lines of an 800-850w psu... just for the extra headroom (in case overclocking will be involved as well).

4) Here's a rig I'm building for a customer (gaming/movies):

- Intel Core i5-2500K ($225)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 ($133)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB DDR3 1600 ($45)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- XFX Core Edition PRO650W ($96)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- WD 1TB 7200rpm 6.0gb/s HDD (ALREADY HAVE)

- 2x EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit ($414)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- Rosewill ARMOR Gaming ATX Mid Tower ($80)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- LITE-ON Black 12X BD-ROM ($50)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- CORSAIR CWCH60 Hydro Series H60 ($74)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- OCZ Agility 3 2.5" 60GB SATA III ($110)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Total = $1,215.18 (shipping included)

^That's without a hard drive, with a more expensive cpu cooler (you can pass with a $30 air cooler), added SSD, and Blu-Ray player. All of the extra things may or may not be needed with your particular build, but I just wanted to list out EVERYTHING going in this computer. Oh yea and she plays most of her games on a 46" (1920x1080) TV with all eye candy on max; this setup should be able to handle all of that without a problem!
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November 23, 2011 5:57:58 AM

toneekay said:
1) Considering you're going SLI 1-2 years later and want the most eye candy right now... I would go for the GTX 570 (if price wasn't an issue). However, if price was an issue, then the 560 Ti still would be plenty to play most modern games at high/highest settings.

2) IMO, the best budget board with PLENTY of features you can grab is this: ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... )

3) A strong 700w would be enough to power 2 560Ti's however, if you're looking to power 2 570's, I would look into something along the lines of an 800-850w psu... just for the extra headroom (in case overclocking will be involved as well).

4) Here's a rig I'm building for a customer (gaming/movies):

- Intel Core i5-2500K ($225)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 ($133)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB DDR3 1600 ($45)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- XFX Core Edition PRO650W ($96)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- WD 1TB 7200rpm 6.0gb/s HDD (ALREADY HAVE)

- 2x EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit ($414)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- Rosewill ARMOR Gaming ATX Mid Tower ($80)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- LITE-ON Black 12X BD-ROM ($50)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- CORSAIR CWCH60 Hydro Series H60 ($74)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

- OCZ Agility 3 2.5" 60GB SATA III ($110)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Total = $1,215.18 (shipping included)

^That's without a hard drive, with a more expensive cpu cooler (you can pass with a $30 air cooler), added SSD, and Blu-Ray player. All of the extra things may or may not be needed with your particular build, but I just wanted to list out EVERYTHING going in this computer. Oh yea and she plays most of her games on a 46" (1920x1080) TV with all eye candy on max; this setup should be able to handle all of that without a problem!


Hey,

Thanks for the detailed response :D 
So, ok.. I'll be taking the ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 Mobo instead of Asus.

And does it have a User friendly bios in comparison with the Asus UEFI Bios?


Oh.. and the build is absolutely relevant. Thanks for the share. I've got a 47" 1080P Tv that i might hook my PC to (just for fun) so.. like you said, Games @1080p ... Yes, this build is excellent.

Will Consider it.

Oh and. I think i drop down to a 560Ti setup. Gonna go a little on the budget side (Thanks for the tip) :p 

One question though, SSDs and Intel's smart resp tech.. is it worth the money?

Thanks.
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November 23, 2011 6:06:38 AM

KcThrows said:
Hey, just finished my build w/ the help of the forums! Let me know what you think! I'm in your budget...I think you could even change it to meet your needs. Hope my thread will help yours!

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/327275-31-1000-gaming...


Hey.

Awesome setup you've got there.. Pretty dense and detailed discussion in that thread.


Congratz! Cause you're all settled now with building your 1st (edit: Extreme Budget/Gaming) PC.
I'll join the party in a bit. :D 

I hope im done deciding soon.

Thanks for the share, man.
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November 23, 2011 1:41:38 PM

rockstar_7 said:
Hey,

Thanks for the detailed response :D 
So, ok.. I'll be taking the ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 Mobo instead of Asus.

And does it have a User friendly bios in comparison with the Asus UEFI Bios?


Oh.. and the build is absolutely relevant. Thanks for the share. I've got a 47" 1080P Tv that i might hook my PC to (just for fun) so.. like you said, Games @1080p ... Yes, this build is excellent.

Will Consider it.

Oh and. I think i drop down to a 560Ti setup. Gonna go a little on the budget side (Thanks for the tip) :p 

One question though, SSDs and Intel's smart resp tech.. is it worth the money?

Thanks.


Yes, the bios is user friendly and easy to navigate around!

I think going with a GTX 560Ti now, and then the possibility of another later down the road, is a great choice! For one, in the meantime, you can play most of the modern games without a hiccup! This video card is VERY solid and WILL NOT disappoint!

As for the SSDs and Intel's smart response, I think it's worth the money depending on what you use it for. Most people use for their OS and common apps that they use, for example in the comp I'm building above, the customer primarily plays racing games; I know it's not anything special, but it'll help decrease load times by A LOT. You'll also notice navigating around Windows will be much easier and snappier (zippy).
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November 23, 2011 4:48:49 PM

toneekay said:
Yes, the bios is user friendly and easy to navigate around!

I think going with a GTX 560Ti now, and then the possibility of another later down the road, is a great choice! For one, in the meantime, you can play most of the modern games without a hiccup! This video card is VERY solid and WILL NOT disappoint!

As for the SSDs and Intel's smart response, I think it's worth the money depending on what you use it for. Most people use for their OS and common apps that they use, for example in the comp I'm building above, the customer primarily plays racing games; I know it's not anything special, but it'll help decrease load times by A LOT. You'll also notice navigating around Windows will be much easier and snappier (zippy).


560Ti it is, then. Thanks a plenty!

SSD hmm.. but, which would be the most cost effective (and mainly for OS booting)?
Thanks
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November 23, 2011 7:19:04 PM

If you're looking for something for the OS + a few apps, then a 60-64GB would be more ideal. However, if you're looking for something for just the OS, then a smaller 30GB one would suffice. Check out Tom's best SSD for the money article here to determine which would be best for you: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-price-ssd,3070...
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November 26, 2011 5:38:55 AM

Best answer selected by Rockstar_7.
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November 26, 2011 5:40:58 AM

toneekay said:
If you're looking for something for the OS + a few apps, then a 60-64GB would be more ideal. However, if you're looking for something for just the OS, then a smaller 30GB one would suffice. Check out Tom's best SSD for the money article here to determine which would be best for you: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-price-ssd,3070...


Ok. Have decided to buy an SSD. But Motherboard options are just killing me. People say AsRock Extreme3 Gen3 has some issues with setting-up and/or after-use issues.
Can you please guide me with which Asrock Mobo i should get or which brand if not asrock?
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November 26, 2011 1:52:25 PM

Hey sorry it took a while to respond, but I think the ASRock board I posted above would be the best one due to it having 2 PCIe slots (SLI later down the road).

ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It should be like every other motherboard getting setup, etc... If you're somewhat computer literate or have some kind of knowledge of putting a computer together, installing OS, and etc... then you shouldn't have a problem getting everything set up and going. I just ordered one of these boards yesterday as well!
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November 26, 2011 2:06:39 PM

toneekay said:
Hey sorry it took a while to respond, but I think the ASRock board I posted above would be the best one due to it having 2 PCIe slots (SLI later down the road).

ASRock Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 LGA 1155 Intel Z68
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It should be like every other motherboard getting setup, etc... If you're somewhat computer literate or have some kind of knowledge of putting a computer together, installing OS, and etc... then you shouldn't have a problem getting everything set up and going. I just ordered one of these boards yesterday as well!


Thanks, One last question though, Arock Extrem3 Gen3 or Asrock Extreme4 Gen3?
Which one would you suggest for the long run? They're $30 apart.
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November 26, 2011 4:13:18 PM

Well as far as I can tell, the Extreme4 has 3 PCIe slots and 4 SATA 6.0gb/s while the Extreme 3 has only 2 PCIe slots and 2 SATA 6.0gb/s.

It's really you're preference... If you decide you'll be using a tri-card setup and have more than two components that needs the 6.0gb/s sata plugs, then the EX4 would be best. However, if you don't require all of the extras then the EX3 would be the wisest choice for your wallet!
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November 26, 2011 4:14:17 PM

Oh yea, and the Extreme4 also has a bigger heatsink for the Z68 onboard chipset.
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November 26, 2011 4:50:00 PM

toneekay said:
Oh yea, and the Extreme4 also has a bigger heatsink for the Z68 onboard chipset.


Thanks, I think i'm ready... :sol: 
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November 26, 2011 5:35:22 PM

Good luck! I'm building a very similar setup like the one posted above as well!
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November 26, 2011 5:39:17 PM

toneekay said:
Good luck! I'm building a very similar setup like the one posted above as well!


Great! Don't mind if i ask you stuff if i get stuck making this build or working on the cooling. :D 
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November 26, 2011 6:16:14 PM

Hey, that's what we're all here for! I'm always down to help to the best of my knowledge and experiences; that's what makes an online community an online community!
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