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November 23, 2011 4:12:22 PM

Hey guys, here is my proposed first build. What do you think? Is everything ok?...


CPU AMD Phenom II X4 Quad 955 Core 3.2GHz Processor 4 x 512 KB
93.47 http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Phenom-3-2GHz-Processor-Box...



Motherboard ASUS M4A89GTD PRO - AMD 890GX - Socket AM3 - PCI-E 2.0 (x16) - DDR3 2000(OC) - SATA 6Gb/s - SATA RAID - ATX
89.98 http://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUS-M4A89GTD-PRO-Socket-PCI/dp...



RAM Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 SDRAM Memory
23.63 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMX4GX3M2A1600C9-XMS3-S...



Hard drive Western Digital Caviar 1TB SATAII 64MB Cache 3.5-inch Green Internal Hard Drive OEM
40.99 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Digital-Caviar-3-5-inch...



Graphics Card Gigabyte Nvidia GTX460 Over Clocked Graphic Card (1GB, DDR5, PCI-E2, DVII/VGA/HDMI)
129.99 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigabyte-Nvidia-GTX460-Clocked-...



Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B3ST SATA Internal 24X DVD±RW Drive
22.80 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-DRW-24B3ST-Internal-DVD%C2...



Case Cooler Master Elite 335 Mid Tower ATX PC Case - Black
33.47 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Elite-Tower-Case/...



Thanks guys :) 

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November 23, 2011 6:43:14 PM

A couple things -

1) What's your overall budget? That would allow me to suggest better parts.

2) Not sure if that RAM will work with that motherboard - I had an Asus M87XXX series - it did not like Corsair XMS RAM - after the board failed on me I later found upping the voltage on the RAM from 1.35V to 1.5V is what did it.

Plus if you're going AMD I'd suggest 990FX or not at all - the 990FX is a great chipset, but most of their older platforms are getting really old and outdated, and the Intel P67, Z68 and H61 chipsets are all infinitely better. I'm not gonna say AMD platforms are useless - where they really excel where Intel doesn't are in the ability to use peripherals better and the ability to use graphics card lanes better. If in the future you wanted to do an SLI setup the 990FX makes far better use of multiple graphics cards than SB does. You might want to read this before deciding:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sabertooth-990fx-99...

3) 460 is getting really outdated for video cards, I'd recommend going with a 550TI or the best bang for your buck right now is the Radeon 6850.
November 23, 2011 9:14:14 PM

Thanks so much g-unit1111 that was a lot of help!

Here is my revised component list, this look any better?



CPU AMD Black Edition - Processor - 1 x AMD Phenom II X4 970 / 3.5 GHz - Socket AM3 - L3 6 MB - Box
109.99 http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Black-Processor-Phenom-Sock...



Motherboard ASUS AM3+ SABERTOOTH 990FX S/L
127.48 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-SABERTOOTH-990FX-ASUS-AM3/...



RAM Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 8GB 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance Memory Two Module Kit
37.90 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9-1600MH...



Hard drive Western Digital Caviar 1TB SATAII 64MB Cache 3.5-inch Green Internal Hard Drive OEM
40.99 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Western-Digital-Caviar-3-5-inch...


Graphics Card EVGA Nvidia GTX550Ti 1GB 192-Bit 3D Ready Graphics Card
99.99 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nvidia-GTX550Ti-192-Bit-Ready-G...



Optical Drive Asus DRW-24B3ST SATA Internal 24X DVD±RW Drive
22.80 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Asus-DRW-24B3ST-Internal-DVD%C2...



Case Cooler Master Elite 335 Mid Tower ATX PC Case - Black
33.47 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Elite-Tower-Case/...


Thanks again :) 

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November 24, 2011 2:37:48 AM

Definitely an improvement - the Sabertooth 990 is a solid board, I've been looking at getting one myself, but I'll probably wind up going with the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5. You'll have to double check and make sure that the RAM is compatible before you buy. From my experience - AMD motherboards do NOT like certain makes and models of RAM, unlike their Intel counterparts.

I would recommend looking at getting a better case - not to say the one you've chosen is bad but what you want to look out for is cable management. The cheaper cases don't usually offer that feature compared to the more expensive cases on the market.
November 24, 2011 4:40:02 AM

1. What's your overall budget? Post according to this thread if you will. I'll definitely go with a cheaper board and a faster gfx card. Will make your gaming experience better by a long way (Provided of course you're looking for a gaming rig). Also, no mention of the PSU. Any case, post according to the link. I'll see if I can come up with something better.

3. You should definitely get a faster HDD. That one's a 5400RPM "green" energy saving laptop drive if you will. When the world is shifting towards super fast SSD's, the least you can do is to get a 7200 RPM standard drive. Will be more expensive, but definitely worth it.
November 24, 2011 6:21:22 AM

Thanks guys my overall budget is about £600-£700 so this is stretching it a bit to be honest. The PSU...


PSU Powercool 750W 80+ Dual 12v V2.2 High Efficiency Black ATX PSU - High Performance Power Supply Unit Designed for Gaming
56.99 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Powercool-750W-Dual-Efficiency-...


Also, how do I check if the ram is compatable with my motherboard before buying either? (if possible explain in noob terms lol)

Cheers :) 
November 24, 2011 6:25:25 AM

Possible purchase date - immediately after xmas

Parts not needed - mouse, keyboard, monitor, speakers etc.

Country - UK

Overclocking - Don't really understand it ahah

November 24, 2011 6:28:27 AM

eladmot said:
Thanks guys my overall budget is about £600-£700 so this is stretching it a bit to be honest. The PSU...


PSU Powercool 750W 80+ Dual 12v V2.2 High Efficiency Black ATX PSU - High Performance Power Supply Unit Designed for Gaming
56.99 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Powercool-750W-Dual-Efficiency-...


Also, how do I check if the ram is compatable with my motherboard before buying either? (if possible explain in noob terms lol)

Cheers :) 
Go to the website of your board manufacturer. There'll be a "QVL" link for qualified RAM vendors. Not really a biggie tbh, butter better be safe that sorry, I suppose.

You don't have to stetch your budget. 700 quids should give you a GTX 560ti if you skimp on the case. You also won't need a 750 watt PSU even for a 560ti much less a 550ti.

I'll post you a build a little while later from the UK sites. Amazon.co.uk, Scan, overclockers ebuyer etc.
November 24, 2011 6:33:23 AM

Is it bad to get a PSU with a higher voltage than you need? If I get a more demanding GPU in the future I don't really want to have to upgrade the PSU as well?
November 24, 2011 12:03:09 PM

No, it's not bad, it's just redundant. The money could be better spend elsewhere.

BTW, it is bad to get a get a PSU that cannot deliver the specified voltage, but I'm sure you meant wattage :p 

What's your primary requirement? If it's for general usage you can drop down the GPU and the PSU. If it's for gaming though, you'll do well to get a slightly beefier GPU especially for higher resolution monitors. Getting a cheaper board will help you do that.

CPU: £110 Your link.

Mobo: £78 Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2P AM3+

RAM: £30 Kingston 8GB 1333MHz - This will run at 1066 though without OC.

HDD: £77 Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB SATAIII 6Gb/s

GPU: £168 Asus 1GB GeForce GTX 560TI

ODD: £22 Your link

PSU: £63 Seasonic Bronze S12II-520 - High quality PSU manufacturer. Not really sure about Powercool though - couldn't find any reviews on any of the major sites.

Case: £33 Your link.

Total: £581 Plus shipping (If any). Actually now that I have added it up, looks like you can even keep your Sabertooth if you want. The Gigabyte can accommodate 32nm 95watt 8 core chips. But doesn't support USB 3 and SATA 6Gb/s. So if you think you can afford it, go right ahead :) 
November 24, 2011 7:21:45 PM

Wow thanks mate!

Just a few question...

Is the sabertooth motherboard considerably better than the gigabyte that you linked, or would I be better off saving the money. I am not building it solely for gaming but would like it to cope well when playing demanding games. I think I might keep the graphics card I originally linked purely for price reasons. Also, I have found this CPU, is it better than the one from above or should I stick with the one from above.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-Bulldozer-FX-4100-Socket-Pr...

Thanks so much

P.S. Yes I did mean Wattage :p 
November 24, 2011 7:24:08 PM

Oh and also (sorry :p ) All the bits that I originally posted, would they all work well together?
November 25, 2011 1:01:47 PM

Stay away from the bulldozers from now. The Phenom II quads are faster per mhz.

The Sabertooth does have multiple SATA 6Gb/s, USB 3, SLI compliant, more overclocking features and better VRM cooling. If you're looking to keep your rig for any more than 2 yrs or planning to get a SATA 6Gb/s SSD in the meantime, or indeed wring out the last possible Mhz from your chip, I'll say you're better off with the Asus board.

As for your original post, I'll swap the board out (older socket), get 8GB RAM for £5-6 extra and get a faster HDD (though smaller). The GPU (GTX 460) is a tad 50:50. It's a great card, but newer, more efficient options are available.

Your second build looks better, but the Powercool PSU, I'm not really sure 'bout. Couldn't find any mention of it anywhere on the major sites. But if it is a well known and respected brand across the pond, might as well go with it.
November 25, 2011 1:09:57 PM

Thanks so much calguyhunk, you've been a real help. Very excited to complete my first build :D  I'll have a look at the PSU and then hopefully it will be good to go :)  CAN'T WAIT!!!
November 25, 2011 1:48:34 PM

Cheers :) 
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