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Really Confused on my CPU Cooler! Help!!!

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February 25, 2012 2:18:51 AM

Okay, so I have been given an HP 8100 Elite Small Form Factor PC. Great, right? Well the bad thing is the SMALL FORM FACTOR. So, I figure getting a bigger Micro ATX case with a newer power supply will do the trick. Now I'm being bombarded with problems. he main one is the CPU Cooling. The Cooling Process right now seems to be that a heat sink is planted on top of the CPU, the heatsink then absorbs the heat, and then it is being pulled through a black funnel by a fan, and the fan is pushing it out the front of the case. I'm not to familiar with this type of cooling and was wondering how I would go about just converting this cooling mechanism to a plain old cooling setup with a fan on top of a heatsink. I'm really puzzled right now, and am now sure how I'm gonna make this air flow out of this case. Any ideas?

Case I will be getting: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144042

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February 25, 2012 2:22:34 AM

xnin3 said:
...and am now sure how I'm gonna make this air flow out of this case. Any ideas?
Your 2 case fans will do that for you.

What motherboard do you have? Does it have a CPU cooler mounting bracket?
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February 25, 2012 2:25:01 AM

Is this your motherboard? HP Compaq 8100
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February 25, 2012 2:33:29 AM

No, this is a picture of the insides of my computer, and yes, I'm fairly sure it does have mounting brackets

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February 25, 2012 2:38:28 AM

That looks like a standard intel push pin cooler mount.

What's the complete model number of your system? Got a link?
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February 25, 2012 2:48:29 AM

Yes it would. Any of the socket 1156 coolers should fit.
Do you have room in your budget for an extra case fan?
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February 25, 2012 2:51:35 AM

Well, I'm looking to get a new case anyway, the case that I posted a link to in my first post. It has 2 fans already. Do you think more are required? Because my current case has no more room, and no holes in it's case except for at the front and back

EDIT: And I'm looking online right now for coolers, and on Newegg it has categories like LGA 1155/1156 or LGA 775/1155/1156 or just LGA 1156. Which category should I be looking in?
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February 25, 2012 2:55:38 AM

2 80mm fans. You mostly see 120mm fans these days.
They can turn slower while moving more air. 80mm fans have a reputation for being a bit loud and whinney.

It might be better to look for a better case/PSU combo instead of buying extra case fans
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February 25, 2012 2:56:49 AM

Most coolers will fit 775/1155/1156/1366 sockets. What kind of budget did you have in mind?
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February 25, 2012 2:58:52 AM

Not too expensive, and I have an i5 Processor, and my *cough* idiot *cough* friend keeps saying I need 1155 coolers. Will the type of processor make a difference?
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February 25, 2012 3:00:06 AM

This is my case, worth every penny to, an absolute dream to work with ( my old case was a standard dell with almost no fans, but this was like 2 years ago )

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

watch the video its a really nice case for the price/features you get (but of course if it doesn't have the look you want, there are others)

Now onto what I really wanted to talk about, the layout of that board seems non standard and that poses and issue when taking cpu coolers into account since all of the cases are made for standard motherboards so just throwing this out there you will be required to take out the mobo, put on the backplate then put it in the case (so the mobo cutout wont help you with that)

Edit: as far as cpu coolers go, yes you need one that says for 1155 on the tin :)  since intel loves to change the layout/size of there procs and sockets.

worth looking at the 212+ or 212 EVO (almost the same cooler, evo has a nice fan though)
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February 25, 2012 3:11:05 AM

It's not looking good for your motherboard fitting in a standard ATX case.
It's card slots and motherboard ports don't match up.
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February 25, 2012 3:12:45 AM

Your first gen Core i5 CPU (6xx/7xx) will be socket 1156.
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February 25, 2012 3:14:35 AM

Will your motherboard match up with the slots and motherboard ports in that case diagram above?
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February 25, 2012 3:18:15 AM

WR2 said:
Will your motherboard match up with the slots and motherboard ports in that case diagram above?


I've got a spare I/O Shield made up for a case that I need to put my motherboard into.
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February 25, 2012 3:28:21 AM

WR2 said:
HP Compaq 8100 Elite
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If this is a match then it is a standard ATX case format.
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/83-147-645-04.jpg


I've got the Small Form Factor of that. So, instead of ATX Motherboard, I have a Micro ATX Motherboard, however, the case I've chosen does supprot Micro ATX, and I've gotten the Cooling thing Figured out completely now! Thanks for all your help!
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February 25, 2012 3:29:17 AM

WR2 said:
HP Compaq 8100 Elite
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If this is a match then it is a standard ATX case format.
http://images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/83-147-645-04.jpg



I don't see what your getting on about, it looks the same to me, except ones in a micro atx case and the other is in regular atx

Easiest way to check if everything will line up is to take a ruler and measure your board (with it off of course)

http://www.formfactors.org/developer/specs/atx2_1.pdf (page 10)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATX (standard atx is 12' wide x 9.6' long)

(reason we ask you to do this is because sometimes manufacturers will be douches and put non standard holes in there boards so you can't transfer them easily) im pretty sure they stopped doing that a while back though...
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February 25, 2012 3:39:07 AM

@ mouse24;
Look at the link he posted above. It looks like the expansion card slots (top left) are above the motherboard ports (middle left).
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February 25, 2012 3:43:02 AM

WR2 said:
@ mouse24;
Look at the link he posted above. It looks like the expansion card slots (top left) are above the motherboard ports (middle left).



Ah, I see that now, I just figured it was upside down / backwards for whatever reason (like some of the Lian Li cases)
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February 25, 2012 3:45:29 AM

I'd like to see the back side of his case.
I can usually figure things out from a shot like that and I haven't been able to do that yet.
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February 25, 2012 3:50:59 AM

This seems to match his picture... and it's not a standard micro-ATX setup.
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February 25, 2012 3:54:46 AM

WR2 said:
I'd like to see the back side of his case.
I can usually figure things out from a shot like that and I haven't been able to do that yet.



yeah I tried zooming in to see if some of the letters/numbers were backwards etc... no dice.

Quote:
This seems to match his picture... and it's not a standard micro-ATX setup.
http://i.imgur.com/rPGAK.png


hmm, interesting... really wish HP would list this stuff on there website -.-

Edit: where the hell does the dvd drive go?

Edit2: wait its supposed to be laying down, nvm... those cases always mess with my head

Edit3: I worked on a case like this, when I was done with it my hands looked like I ran it on a cheese grater, then I realized I forgot to put the CMOS battery back in (had to take the whole thing apart again (like a 30 minute process since everything has to be in its proper place or it doesnt fit at all)
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February 25, 2012 4:15:06 AM

It is a desktop format SFF. Found a video that showed it off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MQKjissYSA

DVD is top left / CPU bottom left.
Top right is PSU with HDD cage underneath / MB I/O ports and card slots at bottom right.
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February 25, 2012 4:44:44 AM

Hopefully, xNIN3 visits his topic again before buying an ATX case that won't fit his BTX motherboard.
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February 25, 2012 11:53:28 AM

So, I'm very confused now. I've had it confirmed by 2 people on Tom's Hardware, and 1 person at HP saying the motherboard is indeed a Micro ATX board, so you're saying it's a BTX Board?
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